Le Fondre unsure of future

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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by melonhead » 07 May 2014 12:14

theyll still need some experience around them even if we do bring in a load of kids

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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by lewesroyal » 07 May 2014 12:51

As much as I'm proud of the way our "kids" are coming through, they still need that level of experience and guidance that "seasoned" Pro's can give. The UTD Class of '92 were a freak of nature, you notice they've not been churning out bus loads of world beaters since!

We need to bring the kids in with a plan to progress them, not just a sink or swim attitude.

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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by Ian Royal » 07 May 2014 12:54

I'm not sure why people have such a downer on ALF. His scoring record is strong, if not amazing. He's been topscorer three seasons running now hasn't he? I'd level criticism at the players who can't match him or keep him out of the side rather than at him.

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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by SPARTA » 07 May 2014 12:55

Hope he stays. He needs to be part of a front two though, and that isn't Adkins' preferred system - so maybe he will go.

Can you imagine Blackman becoming our only experienced striker? I would phucking cry!

Still think Sharp might come in on the cheap. Probably the only cash signing of the summer tho.

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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by genome » 07 May 2014 12:56

Yep. Need to hold onto him as far as I'm concerned. 15 goals this season and top scorer, we need to keep someone capable of that in the team. Especially considering he wants to stay and felt like he could've done better this season.


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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by Reading4eva » 07 May 2014 12:59

Blackman should be offered as part of the deal. Strip the forwards and start again. All of them have been pants this season and if I was Adkins, none of them would be staying

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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by SPARTA » 07 May 2014 13:00

Reading4eva Blackman should be offered as part of the deal. Strip the forwards and start again. All of them have been pants this season and if I was Adkins, none of them would be staying


Alf - 15 goals - started how many games? OK..

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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by kwik-silva » 07 May 2014 13:28

ALF - looked good apart from his slight barren spell
Pog - looked good when we've played his way

28 goals between them, and Blackman has looked good in spells too

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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by Snowball » 07 May 2014 13:41

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LoyalRoyal22 I would happily take 2-3m for him. It's much more important to keep some of the others, McCleary etc


Definately he's hardly been prolific has he... In fact Alf has been a bit shit. Tanner and the youngsters cannot do any worse and they will be hungry



How many Reading Strikers have got even close to his strike rate?

Overall for Reading FC (League)

53 Starts
51 Sub Appearances

104 Total, 5,657 Minutes, 39 Goals, 8 assists

A goal every 145 Minutes



Championship

42 Starts
28 Sub Appearances
70 Total

4,143 Minutes, 27 Goals and 6 Assists

1 goal every 153 minutes played, when 1 in 180 is usually the mark of a very good striker.



Premiership

11 Starts
23 Sub Appearances
34 Total

1,514 Minutes

12 Goals, 2 Assists

1 every 126 Minutes


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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by maffff » 07 May 2014 13:52

But how many half assists does he have?

Also, if he wants to see the future - http://www.shamanscrystal.co.uk/product ... extensions. Only £215. Being a pro footballer he probably earned the cost of that as I wrote this post.

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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by Wycombe Royal » 07 May 2014 13:55

Scoring goals is all very good, but we have seen all too often then when he isn't scoring he doesn't appear to do much else. At times the workrate has been there, but most of the time he just became a peripheral figure on the pitch.

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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by savage 4 england » 07 May 2014 14:01

I like Alf, however it doesn't seem he is exactly the type Adkins wants.

He signed a contract in the premier league, so I'm assuming he's on big wages too.

It may be best we allow him to leave for £1m, get him off the wage bill and bring a striker of the type Adkins wants.

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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by Hoop Blah » 07 May 2014 14:23

Wycombe Royal Scoring goals is all very good, but we have seen all too often then when he isn't scoring he doesn't appear to do much else. At times the workrate has been there, but most of the time he just became a peripheral figure on the pitch.


His scoring record is pretty good and, I think, if you look at the games won ratio when he's in the side it's probably better than without him. However he often seems to be a passenger and wasteful when the balls in the box and, like a lot of forwards, scores his goals in bunches as opposed to consistently over the season.

He isn't good enough to lead the line, and not consistent enough for us to build the side around him and the modern game often requires teams to play with more bodies in midfield and a forward that can hold onto the ball more effectively.


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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by Snowball » 07 May 2014 14:35

Agreed ALF is wrong as the 1 in 451, but POG is not exactly brilliant there, either

Could either work in 4-4-1-1 where we play balls to feet more?

Alternatively why play the striker(s) centrally for clearances? Why not work the channels
playing the striker(s) wide, where it's less necessary to continually use aerial balls?

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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by Wimb » 07 May 2014 14:36

It's the same reason that Hernandez doesn't start more often, nor Bent or any other 'poacher' in the top two leagues, they just don't offer quite enough in the modern day game to start week in week out.

Sure there will be games where they have their fun, usually at home against weaker teams, but if you're away at a top side he's a passenger if you start with him.

Brian used him perfectly in the 2011/12 run in. Let Hunt & Roberts wear down the opposition then unleash Alfie in the final 30 against tiring legs and slipping concentration levels.

He's a fantastic player to have in your squad but if money is tight and we might be only able to carry 1 other senior forward alongside Pog, then I'd want someone with genuine pace or strength that can hold the ball up or make chances on his own.

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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by SPARTA » 07 May 2014 14:49

Wycombe Royal Scoring goals is all very good, but we have seen all too often then when he isn't scoring he doesn't appear to do much else.


Nor did Kevin Philips. Same type of player. They are very rare. We're lucky to have him!

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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by kwik-silva » 07 May 2014 14:54

Hoop Blah
Wycombe Royal Scoring goals is all very good, but we have seen all too often then when he isn't scoring he doesn't appear to do much else. At times the workrate has been there, but most of the time he just became a peripheral figure on the pitch.


His scoring record is pretty good and, I think, if you look at the games won ratio when he's in the side it's probably better than without him. However he often seems to be a passenger and wasteful when the balls in the box and, like a lot of forwards, scores his goals in bunches as opposed to consistently over the season.

He isn't good enough to lead the line, and not consistent enough for us to build the side around him and the modern game often requires teams to play with more bodies in midfield and a forward that can hold onto the ball more effectively.


Soccerbase doesn't counts starting from the bench as 'without' him, but with him in the side this season : 48% of games won, without him: 29%

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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by melonhead » 07 May 2014 14:54

Wimb It's the same reason that Hernandez doesn't start more often, nor Bent or any other 'poacher' in the top two leagues, they just don't offer quite enough in the modern day game to start week in week out.

Sure there will be games where they have their fun, usually at home against weaker teams, but if you're away at a top side he's a passenger if you start with him.

Brian used him perfectly in the 2011/12 run in. Let Hunt & Roberts wear down the opposition then unleash Alfie in the final 30 against tiring legs and slipping concentration levels.

He's a fantastic player to have in your squad but if money is tight and we might be only able to carry 1 other senior forward alongside Pog, then I'd want someone with genuine pace or strength that can hold the ball up or make chances on his own.


:?:

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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by maffff » 07 May 2014 14:57

SPARTA Still think Sharp might come in on the cheap. Probably the only cash signing of the summer tho.


:?: out of contract m8.

Will we be paying the same parent club as Burnley think Chris Baird returned to earlier in the week?

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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by Wimb » 07 May 2014 15:04

melonhead
Wimb It's the same reason that Hernandez doesn't start more often, nor Bent or any other 'poacher' in the top two leagues, they just don't offer quite enough in the modern day game to start week in week out.

Sure there will be games where they have their fun, usually at home against weaker teams, but if you're away at a top side he's a passenger if you start with him.

Brian used him perfectly in the 2011/12 run in. Let Hunt & Roberts wear down the opposition then unleash Alfie in the final 30 against tiring legs and slipping concentration levels.

He's a fantastic player to have in your squad but if money is tight and we might be only able to carry 1 other senior forward alongside Pog, then I'd want someone with genuine pace or strength that can hold the ball up or make chances on his own.


:?:


On the basis that Le Fondre is going to be easier to shift than Pog, I'd probably keep Le Fondre and ship Pog if given the choice... or with new ownership keep them both ;)

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