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Re: Oh dear.....

by Ian Royal » 25 Jul 2008 18:36

Kitson: 18+4, 19 & 5
Forster: 7+1, 9+4 & 17
Goater: 11 & 12+2
Doyle: 18+1
Lita: 11+4

Since we got promoted back up again. Unsurprisingly I didn't bother with Owusu. So from that we can see the much maligned Goater is at about the same level as Mr Lita, although I hope Lita breaks th e15 mark with us in the coming season.

Kitson would certainly have broken 20 on both his high scoring seasons but for injury. I don't know if you could argue the same for Forster, though he was also much troubled by a brittle body.

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by Archie's penalty » 25 Jul 2008 19:15

Ian Royal Kitson: 18+4, 19 & 5
Forster: 7+1, 9+4 & 17
Goater: 11 & 12+2
Doyle: 18+1
Lita: 11+4

Since we got promoted back up again. Unsurprisingly I didn't bother with Owusu. So from that we can see the much maligned Goater is at about the same level as Mr Lita, although I hope Lita breaks th e15 mark with us in the coming season.

Kitson would certainly have broken 20 on both his high scoring seasons but for injury. I don't know if you could argue the same for Forster, though he was also much troubled by a brittle body.


I was sure that Lita had 15 league goals.

Hmm yes I hope he hits that number this year.

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Re: Oh dear.....

by papereyes » 26 Jul 2008 01:04

Ian Royal Kitson: 18+4, 19 & 5
Forster: 7+1, 9+4 & 17
Goater: 11 & 12+2
Doyle: 18+1
Lita: 11+4


Goals in the Championship in a given season, right?

How far ahead of the rest is Kitson? Even the 5 in his first season came at a decent rate of about 1 in 3.

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Re: Oh dear.....

by Ian Royal » 26 Jul 2008 02:18

The HNA? archives aren't good enough to work out goals to games stuff, there are all sorts of bits missing and just plain wrong reports. And it would take forever to sort out.

Strap should be able to pull out an appearances and goals figures for each player and each season if he feels like it I'd have thought

From the Championship season on rough calculations from the match reports I make it:

Kitson - League 28(7) 18 & Cup 6(0) 4
Doyle - League 40(5) 18 & Cup 3(4) 1
Lita - League 22(4) 11 & Cup 3(3) 4

Which gives Kitson a pretty phenomenal strike rate that season! Doyle comes out looking pretty good given it was his first season at this sort of level. And Lita's record also looks impressive.

Who says all Coppell's signings need bedding in time.

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Re: Oh dear.....

by Southbank Old Boy » 26 Jul 2008 09:20

Ian Royal The HNA? archives aren't good enough to work out goals to games stuff, there are all sorts of bits missing and just plain wrong reports. And it would take forever to sort out.

Strap should be able to pull out an appearances and goals figures for each player and each season if he feels like it I'd have thought

From the Championship season on rough calculations from the match reports I make it:

Kitson - League 28(7) 18 & Cup 6(0) 4
Doyle - League 40(5) 18 & Cup 3(4) 1
Lita - League 22(4) 11 & Cup 3(3) 4

Which gives Kitson a pretty phenomenal strike rate that season! Doyle comes out looking pretty good given it was his first season at this sort of level. And Lita's record also looks impressive.

Who says all Coppell's signings need bedding in time.


For next time try http://www.soccerbase.com/squad_season.sd?teamid=2125


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Re: Oh dear.....

by strap » 26 Jul 2008 09:47

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Re: Oh dear.....

by Ian Royal » 26 Jul 2008 10:33

Cheers Strap. Knew you could do it.

Where the hell did I get goals for Goater in the second season from!?

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Re: Oh dear.....

by Archie's penalty » 26 Jul 2008 11:21

I can't seem to scroll across so I can only see Doyle and Forster's records :cry:

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Re: Oh dear.....

by londinium » 26 Jul 2008 11:34

Just goes to show that Kitson really is the nuts!!!

roughly 1 in 2 strike rate compared to the others roughly 1 in 3.


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Re: Oh dear.....

by rhroyal » 26 Jul 2008 14:22

In 2005/06 you can see that Lita is actually quite impressive. Compare his rate with Sidwell in the league:

Lita: 22(4) apps, 11 goals and then 3(3) and 4 goals in cup competitions.
Altogether that;s 25 (7) apps and 15 goals, which is practically 1 in 2. You should also then remember that massive spell when Kitson was injured and Lita was probably about 60% or so fit and he didn't score much. When he was fit and firing he must have been absolutely on fire. I think he can really storm the Championship this season.

Sidwell also got 10 league goals from 29(4) league games, which is a rate a lot of strikers would be happy with. I think we'll miss that sort of strike rate from midfield this season.

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by Archie's penalty » 26 Jul 2008 14:35

rhroyal In 2005/06 you can see that Lita is actually quite impressive. Compare his rate with Sidwell in the league:

Lita: 22(4) apps, 11 goals and then 3(3) and 4 goals in cup competitions.
Altogether that;s 25 (7) apps and 15 goals, which is practically 1 in 2. You should also then remember that massive spell when Kitson was injured and Lita was probably about 60% or so fit and he didn't score much. When he was fit and firing he must have been absolutely on fire. I think he can really storm the Championship this season.

Sidwell also got 10 league goals from 29(4) league games, which is a rate a lot of strikers would be happy with. I think we'll miss that sort of strike rate from midfield this season.


Didn't Harps also get about 10? Was it 7?

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Re: Oh dear.....

by rhroyal » 26 Jul 2008 14:40

Yeh, but Harps also played 45 games, and 7 goals from 45 matches doesn't look quite as impressive at 10 from about 30.

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by Archie's penalty » 26 Jul 2008 14:50

The more you think about it the more impressive that team in 05/06 was!

We were amazing!


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Re: Oh dear.....

by PEARCEY » 26 Jul 2008 15:44

Archie's penalty The more you think about it the more impressive that team in 05/06 was!

We were amazing!



Yes it was an incredible season the like of which I doubt we will ever see this club or many others replicate.

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Re: Oh dear.....

by Ian Royal » 26 Jul 2008 16:27

Watching some of the videos of that season it looks like teams just had no idea how to cope with us. Some of them, it's almost like they gave up trying to defend because they knew it wouldn't make any difference.

We scored from corners & freekicks, breaks, long shots, crosses, through balls, bundles in the box. Plenty of goals weren't pretty or seem like terrible defending having watched two premier league seasons. If we can replicate even half of that quality we'll have a good chance of promotion.

If we start well I could see other clubs almost giving up the idea of being able to beat us the way we smashed most of them last time.

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Re: Oh dear.....

by Dirk Gently » 26 Jul 2008 16:46

For those who couldn't read Strap's tables, click on the link below then resize it.

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/7871/allvm9.jpg

HTH

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Re: Oh dear.....

by Archie's penalty » 26 Jul 2008 17:07

Dirk Gently For those who couldn't read Strap's tables, click on the link below then resize it.

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/7871/allvm9.jpg

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Re: Oh dear.....

by Cookie » 27 Jul 2008 03:08

That's right ~ we should cheer up.

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by Cookie » 27 Jul 2008 03:10

Ian Royal Watching some of the videos of that season it looks like teams just had no idea how to cope with us. Some of them, it's almost like they gave up trying to defend because they knew it wouldn't make any difference.

We scored from corners & freekicks, breaks, long shots, crosses, through balls, bundles in the box. Plenty of goals weren't pretty or seem like terrible defending having watched two premier league seasons. If we can replicate even half of that quality we'll have a good chance of promotion.

If we start well I could see other clubs almost giving up the idea of being able to beat us the way we smashed most of them last time.


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Re: Oh dear.....

by kwik-silva » 29 Jul 2008 16:16

What I don't get is why we're all having a go at copp's when it was only a couple of months ago that we wanted him to stay :?

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