MATCHWATCH : Burnley (a)

[Franconian Royal]

Watched, as always, on RoyalsTV. Me and Snr. both said it was a stonewall. You could see how TINce went down, that's not a dive. If it's true that the ref came from Lancs, I'm shocked, just like against Swansea you have a ref from Wales . I'm starting to see PINCe's point about the EFL having a fixed agenda against us.
I said to Snr., that if they play like that every week, there's no way they're going straight back up. It was like watching Citeh. And please answer this for me: what's with the FFP? How can they afford wages of Dervisoglou (sp?), who plays / played for Brentford, a Brazilian and other players, who must be on big arse wages. Yes, they've just come down, but still obviously FFP only counts against teams like ours. The EFL needs to get a grip of it and PRONTO.

[Franchise FC]

Watched, as always, on RoyalsTV. Me and Snr. both said it was a stonewall. You could see how TINce went down, that's not a dive. If it's true that the ref came from Lancs, I'm shocked, just like against Swansea you have a ref from Wales . I'm starting to see PINCe's point about the EFL having a fixed agenda against us.
I said to Snr., that if they play like that every week, there's no way they're going straight back up. It was like watching Citeh. And please answer this for me: what's with the FFP? How can they afford wages of Dervisoglou (sp?), who plays / played for Brentford, a Brazilian and other players, who must be on big arse wages. Yes, they've just come down, but still obviously FFP only counts against teams like ours. The EFL needs to get a grip of it and PRONTO.

They may have sold a few for big numbers. Are they supposed to give them away ?
How could we afford the wages of Danny Drinkwater ?
It’s almost certainly because they’re not paying all of it

We’re proving that you don’t need to spend loads to be competitive

[paultheroyal]

Something Paul Ince said stuck with me in that he thinks the EFL want us to get relegated. I'm starting to agree with that.

Why is someone from Lancashire allowed to referee the game?

I would say this is a pretty lame reason.

I was assistant in a Reading cup game despite declaring and often officiated at Southampton and Portsmouth games living in Hampshire. It means nothing. I have no affiliation with those teams.

Unless in emergencies refs would never do their towns or clubs they have declared support too.

[Franconian Royal]

Watched, as always, on RoyalsTV. Me and Snr. both said it was a stonewall. You could see how TINce went down, that's not a dive. If it's true that the ref came from Lancs, I'm shocked, just like against Swansea you have a ref from Wales . I'm starting to see PINCe's point about the EFL having a fixed agenda against us.
I said to Snr., that if they play like that every week, there's no way they're going straight back up. It was like watching Citeh. And please answer this for me: what's with the FFP? How can they afford wages of Dervisoglou (sp?), who plays / played for Brentford, a Brazilian and other players, who must be on big arse wages. Yes, they've just come down, but still obviously FFP only counts against teams like ours. The EFL needs to get a grip of it and PRONTO.

They may have sold a few for big numbers. Are they supposed to give them away ?
How could we afford the wages of Danny Drinkwater ?
It’s almost certainly because they’re not paying all of it

We’re proving that you don’t need to spend loads to be competitive

Still, it isn't right that a big majority of clubs in this division are being overlooked on the FFP side.

[Franchise FC]

Watched, as always, on RoyalsTV. Me and Snr. both said it was a stonewall. You could see how TINce went down, that's not a dive. If it's true that the ref came from Lancs, I'm shocked, just like against Swansea you have a ref from Wales . I'm starting to see PINCe's point about the EFL having a fixed agenda against us.
I said to Snr., that if they play like that every week, there's no way they're going straight back up. It was like watching Citeh. And please answer this for me: what's with the FFP? How can they afford wages of Dervisoglou (sp?), who plays / played for Brentford, a Brazilian and other players, who must be on big arse wages. Yes, they've just come down, but still obviously FFP only counts against teams like ours. The EFL needs to get a grip of it and PRONTO.

They may have sold a few for big numbers. Are they supposed to give them away ?
How could we afford the wages of Danny Drinkwater ?
It’s almost certainly because they’re not paying all of it

We’re proving that you don’t need to spend loads to be competitive

Still, it isn't right that a big majority of clubs in this division are being overlooked on the FFP side.

How do you work out they’re being overlooked ?
Do you have access to their finance departments and the management accounts (there is no chance the statutory accounts for this year are available since they haven’t reached their year ends) ?
At what point do you think the EFL should have the right to step in and demand access to the forecasts ?
They’re only doing that with us because we DID breach

[Franconian Royal]

They may have sold a few for big numbers. Are they supposed to give them away ?
How could we afford the wages of Danny Drinkwater ?
It’s almost certainly because they’re not paying all of it

We’re proving that you don’t need to spend loads to be competitive

Still, it isn't right that a big majority of clubs in this division are being overlooked on the FFP side.

How do you work out they’re being overlooked ?
Do you have access to their finance departments and the management accounts (there is no chance the statutory accounts for this year are available since they haven’t reached their year ends) ?
At what point do you think the EFL should have the right to step in and demand access to the forecasts ?
They’re only doing that with us because we DID breach

So, last year (or year before), it was reported that 16 (?) clubs were being investigated. Out of that, only 2 (!, us, Derby and Sheff Wed) were sanctioned. So how come the likes of Bristol, coventry (who should've been kicked out a long time ago because of the stadium shenanigans), Swansea (don't ask me how they afford players like Fulton etc) are not being looked at? Yes, ok, perhaps they will, but I#m getting to the point where it looks like we're the scapegoats and can be sanctioned (perhaps rightly, perhaps not rightly). I'd be interested to see the amount of debt other clubs are in and see whether the EFL do something.

[Snowflake Royal]

Watched, as always, on RoyalsTV. Me and Snr. both said it was a stonewall. You could see how TINce went down, that's not a dive. If it's true that the ref came from Lancs, I'm shocked, just like against Swansea you have a ref from Wales . I'm starting to see PINCe's point about the EFL having a fixed agenda against us.
I said to Snr., that if they play like that every week, there's no way they're going straight back up. It was like watching Citeh. And please answer this for me: what's with the FFP? How can they afford wages of Dervisoglou (sp?), who plays / played for Brentford, a Brazilian and other players, who must be on big arse wages. Yes, they've just come down, but still obviously FFP only counts against teams like ours. The EFL needs to get a grip of it and PRONTO.

They may have sold a few for big numbers. Are they supposed to give them away ?
How could we afford the wages of Danny Drinkwater ?
It’s almost certainly because they’re not paying all of it

We’re proving that you don’t need to spend loads to be competitive

Still, it isn't right that a big majority of clubs in this division are being overlooked on the FFP side.

They aren’t being over looked. They either haven't broken the rules yet or are hiding it well.

We overspent for about 5 years before we finally got a points deduction. Burnley haven’t even been in the division half a season, how could they possibly have broken the FFP rules that allow losing something stupid like £13m a season for 3 seasons?!

[3points]

Would genuinely be interested to know the reason for not giving that - did he think he got a touch, it was a dive etc? Mind blowing

clearly didn’t think it was a dive as he would have booked him, surely?

[windermereROYAL]

Would genuinely be interested to know the reason for not giving that - did he think he got a touch, it was a dive etc? Mind blowing

clearly didn’t think it was a dive as he would have booked him, surely?

We`ll never know because refs aren`t accountable for their actions. I`d just love one to come out and explain a decision. there were two of them no more than 15 yards away and collectively they couldn't get it right.

[Snowflake Royal]

Would genuinely be interested to know the reason for not giving that - did he think he got a touch, it was a dive etc? Mind blowing

clearly didn’t think it was a dive as he would have booked him, surely?

My initial reaction was hope more than certainty, I thought Ince went over pretty easy.

Obviously watching it from several angles you can see he missed the ball and took out Ince.

[Zip]

Can anyone tell me what the point of a lineman is these days?

[Snowflake Royal]

Can anyone tell me what the point of a lineman is these days?

Flagging Mbengue for foul throws

[Stranded]

Would genuinely be interested to know the reason for not giving that - did he think he got a touch, it was a dive etc? Mind blowing

clearly didn’t think it was a dive as he would have booked him, surely?

We`ll never know because refs aren`t accountable for their actions. I`d just love one to come out and explain a decision. there were two of them no more than 15 yards away and collectively they couldn't get it right.

Was actually quite refreshing over here last night, Frankfurt were also denied a stonewall penalty v Dortmund for a push. Somehow even VAR didn't overturn.

Anyway, after the game the ref explained that in real time he saw it as normal bodily contact, didn't see the push. VAR classed it as no clear error on his part apparently but he had since seen the incident and should have given a penalty and red card.

Doesn't change anything but a quick explanation from the ref does help clarify things.

[Delboy]

Credit Vincent Company he told their local paper it was a stonewall penalty

[Stranded]

Credit Vincent Company he told their local paper it was a stonewall penalty

Indeed, fair play. The cynic in me says how easy that is to do when you've scored the winner a minute later but could have easily used the "I couldn't see it" card.

[windermereROYAL]

Well if Kompany could see it from the halfway line what does it say about officials a few yards away from it?

And somebody please tell me about the counter argument Burnley fans are coming out with that they should have had a pen in the first half for holding

[Stranded]

Well if Kompany could see it from the halfway line what does it say about officials a few yards away from it?

And somebody please tell me about the counter argument Burnley fans are coming out with that they should have had a pen in the first half for holding

Holding happens at every set piece but if they are playing that card, then we should have had one for handball too.

[windermereROYAL]

Well if Kompany could see it from the halfway line what does it say about officials a few yards away from it?

And somebody please tell me about the counter argument Burnley fans are coming out with that they should have had a pen in the first half for holding

Holding happens at every set piece but if they are playing that card, then we should have had one for handball too.

Yes they are mental and clutching at straws for downright daylight robbery, even after a night's sleep I`m still livid, don`t think I`ve ever been so angry after a defeat.

[Sutekh]

Something Paul Ince said stuck with me in that he thinks the EFL want us to get relegated. I'm starting to agree with that.

Why is someone from Lancashire allowed to referee the game?

I would say this is a pretty lame reason.

I was assistant in a Reading cup game despite declaring and often officiated at Southampton and Portsmouth games living in Hampshire. It means nothing. I have no affiliation with those teams.

Unless in emergencies refs would never do their towns or clubs they have declared support too.

Out of interest if a ref says they support Celtic/Arsenal would they get Rangers/Spurs games?

[Sutekh]

Well if Kompany could see it from the halfway line what does it say about officials a few yards away from it?

And somebody please tell me about the counter argument Burnley fans are coming out with that they should have had a pen in the first half for holding

Holding happens at every set piece but if they are playing that card, then we should have had one for handball too.

Yes they are mental and clutching at straws for downright daylight robbery, even after a night's sleep I`m still livid, don`t think I`ve ever been so angry after a defeat.

Well on the bright side at least it wasn't down to the team’s performance for once - and if they can keep performances at that level then more often than not points will be incoming.