England - the future....

[Sanguine]

It's pointless playing the ball over the top for him or giving him anything to run onto as he is going to get caught every time, so that restricts what we can do.

There's lots of pace everywhere else in the attack but they can't play the ball in as quickly as they might otherwise do because Kane probably won't be there at the split second of maximum opportunity.

I think you're ignoring evidence you can see with your own eyes to fit a narrative on Kane you've been building for some time.

1 - We don't play balls over the top. We didn't under Southgate, that isn't how Tuchel is setting us up either.
2 - Kane has literally 24 hours ago scored a goal by movement and by beating a defender to the ball to win a header.

[Royal Rother]

Yes, and he will continue to score goals if we continue to play him.

But we won’t win anything.

I’m just asking the question as to whether there might be a way of shuffling the pack that would get more out of the collective resources at Tuchel’s disposal so we COULD potentially take that next step and win a tournament.

But I do understand that getting CLOSE to winning things was always good enough for you under Southgate.

[Carnabyswhiskers]

Why James and Lewis-Skelly and not Livramento? Why Rashford and not Gordon? Why so late to introduce Rogers? The game needed players prepared to run at defenders and play 1-2s past them, or to be prepared to overlap, at speed, either to get on the end of a through-ball or to draw defenders out of position. We have the talent. Why is it so hard to exploit it? Still think Tuchel is the man for the overall job (ie make the necessary decisions under pressure in the final stages of competitions to get us over the line), but some of his selections and his bewildering indulgence of certain individuals - J. Henderson, really? - are making me doubt.

Anyone would think Thomas Tuchel is lurking on here.

[Sanguine]

Yes, and he will continue to score goals if we continue to play him.

But we won’t win anything.

I’m just asking the question as to whether there might be a way of shuffling the pack that would get more out of the collective resources at Tuchel’s disposal so we COULD potentially take that next step and win a tournament.

But I do understand that getting CLOSE to winning things was always good enough for you under Southgate.

I think the notion that we'll get close to winning things but won't win anything just because we're playing someone with 74 goals in 109 games and who will, in your words, 'continue to score goals' - is a little silly, RR.

BBC highlights the importance of Kane's game to the system Tuchel favours, he needs a 9 that comes deep.

[Sutekh]

Yes, and he will continue to score goals if we continue to play him.

But we won’t win anything.

I’m just asking the question as to whether there might be a way of shuffling the pack that would get more out of the collective resources at Tuchel’s disposal so we COULD potentially take that next step and win a tournament.

But I do understand that getting CLOSE to winning things was always good enough for you under Southgate.

I think the notion that we'll get close to winning things but won't win anything just because we're playing someone with 74 goals in 109 games and who will, in your words, 'continue to score goals' - is a little silly, RR.

BBC highlights the importance of Kane's game to the system Tuchel favours, he needs a 9 that comes deep.

Or an 8 that goes forward

[Royal Rother]

Yes, and he will continue to score goals if we continue to play him.

But we won’t win anything.

I’m just asking the question as to whether there might be a way of shuffling the pack that would get more out of the collective resources at Tuchel’s disposal so we COULD potentially take that next step and win a tournament.

But I do understand that getting CLOSE to winning things was always good enough for you under Southgate.

I think the notion that we'll get close to winning things but won't win anything just because we're playing someone with 74 goals in 109 games and who will, in your words, 'continue to score goals' - is a little silly, RR.

Yeah, I know it's 59 years ago now, but I suppose it's the old Jimmy Greaves type of question really.

[bcubed]

Yes, and he will continue to score goals if we continue to play him.

But we won’t win anything.

I’m just asking the question as to whether there might be a way of shuffling the pack that would get more out of the collective resources at Tuchel’s disposal so we COULD potentially take that next step and win a tournament.

But I do understand that getting CLOSE to winning things was always good enough for you under Southgate.

I don't have any stats to back it up but its always been my feeling that Kane goes missing in the really crunch games. The semi finals and final where we need everyone to perform at their best.

[ayjaydee]

Yes, and he will continue to score goals if we continue to play him.

But we won’t win anything.

I’m just asking the question as to whether there might be a way of shuffling the pack that would get more out of the collective resources at Tuchel’s disposal so we COULD potentially take that next step and win a tournament.

But I do understand that getting CLOSE to winning things was always good enough for you under Southgate.

I don't have any stats to back it up but its always been my feeling that Kane goes missing in the really crunch games. The semi finals and final where we need everyone to perform at their best.

Not so sure that he goes missing, more that he tries to do too much outside the role for which he is picked. No Harry you are not helping the team by picking the ball up from Pickford. He seems to bear the collective weight of frustration on his shoulders.