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Re: New Owners - Redwood Wat

by Royal Ginger » 09 Aug 2025 07:00

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Whore Jackie Anyone go to the Former Players' Q&A with Rob (and Todd) last night?

Thought it was really good, Rob can certainly talk. 76 years old, but still sharp as a tack. Didn't backdown from any question, and Ady chucked a couple of trickyish ones at him. Loved his anger at the media for not properly covering the Morecambe story and has some pretty sensible ideas on how to reform the football pyramid. Other interesting* bits:

– New players still coming in, but not until next week earliest. Todd is pushing for a striker!
– Academy will stay as Cat 1 as long as they're there, but they are looking at ways to make it more cost efficient.
– Got very frustrated with certain sections of the media and social media pushing the he's closing down the Academy rumours.
– He's a big fan of Noel and will back him, but he's got 3 names they'll interview if Noel leaves for whatever reason. Ainsworth is not on that list.
– New investor will be announced next week. Much like player recruitment, they're very picky on who they bring in to invest.
– Converted some of their investments from loans to equity in order to maximise the funding for the Club.
– Lots of the infrastructure investment at the SCL is to both enhance the fan offering, and also make it more attractive for concerts, events etc. These will take time, aim is every time you go to the stadium you'll see improvements
– No Interest in getting involved with Royal Elm Park. Is aware of significant issues with the methane underneath the car park, sounds like it could be an issue for any development there.
– No plans to change the badge.
– 9.5K STs sold. Want to get up to an average of 16K home crowds by the middle of the season.
– We have a Head of AI! First English club to have one.
– Already using AI in their new scouting software he mentioned at the Purple Turtle. Reckons they'll start to see the benefits of this next season.
– Still chats to Rubén, but more to Ainsworth and Bloomfield. Really rated Rubén, but knew he'd go when their deal collapsed in September 2024.
– Rob isn't much of a drinker! Likes a Guinness and the occasional glass of wine. Todd loves a Bourbon and Amaretto. Together. He's a big man, Todd Junior is massive.


I am a diehard baseball fan as much as I am a Reading fan and the baseballification of what they’re trying to do is evident from the collectible cups to the heavy leaning on analytics. I’m all about it. However, I also work in large music venues and am adamant that going after concerts (and boxing) is a waste of time and effort for a stadium of that size. It falls into a homogeneous middle that suits nobody. Stadium costs are excessive compared to arenas, and the thing that makes up the difference is huge capacity. There’s a gap. If you can sell 20,000 tickets you go to the O2, if you can sell 50,000 you go to one of the big stadiums in London. Artists falling into the gap in between are extremely rare and even if they do fit that gap promoters will sell them the larger dream. I don’t think it’s on.

Agree with concerts. Since the last time we regularly had them at the Mad Stad, better venues have opened up and many of those are closer to London. I doubt there would be much of a financial advantage coming here over say Milton Keynes - and we have a smaller venue. That's without considering venues within London.

Ashton Gate is regularly used for concerts, but Bristol is a bigger place than Reading and can attract people from the West Country and potentially South Wales (Newport and closer). It's probably a city with a more demographically appropriate population too.

Would be great if they can make it work though.

I agree with all your points. Brizzle doesn’t have an arena yet (one is being built) which makes them a bit more viable.

Would be fun to have the gigs, just don’t see it happening with the 02, Wembley Arena, the Hammersmith Apollo, Brixton Academy, Hyde Park and various London stadiums catering for every medium to large gig on the map.

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Re: New Owners - Redwood Wat

by Sutekh » 09 Aug 2025 08:56

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I am a diehard baseball fan as much as I am a Reading fan and the baseballification of what they’re trying to do is evident from the collectible cups to the heavy leaning on analytics. I’m all about it. However, I also work in large music venues and am adamant that going after concerts (and boxing) is a waste of time and effort for a stadium of that size. It falls into a homogeneous middle that suits nobody. Stadium costs are excessive compared to arenas, and the thing that makes up the difference is huge capacity. There’s a gap. If you can sell 20,000 tickets you go to the O2, if you can sell 50,000 you go to one of the big stadiums in London. Artists falling into the gap in between are extremely rare and even if they do fit that gap promoters will sell them the larger dream. I don’t think it’s on.

Agree with concerts. Since the last time we regularly had them at the Mad Stad, better venues have opened up and many of those are closer to London. I doubt there would be much of a financial advantage coming here over say Milton Keynes - and we have a smaller venue. That's without considering venues within London.

Ashton Gate is regularly used for concerts, but Bristol is a bigger place than Reading and can attract people from the West Country and potentially South Wales (Newport and closer). It's probably a city with a more demographically appropriate population too.

Would be great if they can make it work though.

I agree with all your points. Brizzle doesn’t have an arena yet (one is being built) which makes them a bit more viable.

Would be fun to have the gigs, just don’t see it happening with the 02, Wembley Arena, the Hammersmith Apollo, Brixton Academy, Hyde Park and various London stadiums catering for every medium to large gig on the map.


Yes why go to something more or less on your doorstep when you can have the untold expense and fun of a trek to the other side of London plus the probable additional cost of hotel stays? :roll:

All well and good as a one off special occasion event but if the E.Berks region had a local decent music venue on the regular gig circuit it would coin it.

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Re: New Owners - Redwood Watch

by From Despair To Where? » 09 Aug 2025 14:22

I'm not that convinced on the viability of using it for gigs considering it will only be available 2 months of the year tops. You'd need a string of gigs booked over a fairly intensive period

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Re: New Owners - Redwood Watch

by morganb » 09 Aug 2025 14:59

From Despair To Where? I'm not that convinced on the viability of using it for gigs considering it will only be available 2 months of the year tops. You'd need a string of gigs booked over a fairly intensive period


Guess summer concerts suit an open air stadium?

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Re: New Owners - Redwood Wat

by Orion1871 » 09 Aug 2025 15:03

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Clyde1998 Agree with concerts. Since the last time we regularly had them at the Mad Stad, better venues have opened up and many of those are closer to London. I doubt there would be much of a financial advantage coming here over say Milton Keynes - and we have a smaller venue. That's without considering venues within London.

Ashton Gate is regularly used for concerts, but Bristol is a bigger place than Reading and can attract people from the West Country and potentially South Wales (Newport and closer). It's probably a city with a more demographically appropriate population too.

Would be great if they can make it work though.

I agree with all your points. Brizzle doesn’t have an arena yet (one is being built) which makes them a bit more viable.

Would be fun to have the gigs, just don’t see it happening with the 02, Wembley Arena, the Hammersmith Apollo, Brixton Academy, Hyde Park and various London stadiums catering for every medium to large gig on the map.


Yes why go to something more or less on your doorstep when you can have the untold expense and fun of a trek to the other side of London plus the probable additional cost of hotel stays? :roll:

All well and good as a one off special occasion event but if the E.Berks region had a local decent music venue on the regular gig circuit it would coin it.


Yes, but that doesn't have an impact on how the promoters who choose the venues make their decisions.


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Re: New Owners - Redwood Watch

by RoyalBlue » 11 Aug 2025 22:06

Rob Couhig currently on WTF (Wynalda Talks Football) on Sirius XM FC in the US.

'We can tell we're back in football because the fans gave us a great welcome but now want to know why I haven't bought a striker'

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Re: New Owners - Redwood Watch

by Snowflake Royal » 11 Aug 2025 23:11

RoyalBlue Rob Couhig currently on WTF (Wynalda Talks Football) on Sirius XM FC in the US.

'We can tell we're back in football because the fans gave us a great welcome but now want to know why I haven't bought a striker'

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Re: New Owners - Redwood Watch

by Linden Jones' Tash » 12 Aug 2025 08:21

RoyalBlue Rob Couhig currently on WTF (Wynalda Talks Football) on Sirius XM FC in the US.

'We can tell we're back in football because the fans gave us a great welcome but now want to know why I haven't bought a striker'


I hope the host provided the context - not retaining JW or CC, selling HK, having sold SS and not retained BB the replacement....

Stop taking us for fools...

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Re: New Owners - Redwood Watch

by windermereROYAL » 12 Aug 2025 09:29

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RoyalBlue Rob Couhig currently on WTF (Wynalda Talks Football) on Sirius XM FC in the US.

'We can tell we're back in football because the fans gave us a great welcome but now want to know why I haven't bought a striker'


I hope the host provided the context - not retaining JW or CC, selling HK, having sold SS and not retained BB the replacement....

Stop taking us for fools...


How difficult is it to print names? I got Wareham Knibbs and Smith,


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Re: New Owners - Redwood Watch

by Linden Jones' Tash » 12 Aug 2025 09:45

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RoyalBlue Rob Couhig currently on WTF (Wynalda Talks Football) on Sirius XM FC in the US.

'We can tell we're back in football because the fans gave us a great welcome but now want to know why I haven't bought a striker'


I hope the host provided the context - not retaining JW or CC, selling HK, having sold SS and not retained BB the replacement....

Stop taking us for fools...


How difficult is it to print names? I got Wareham Knibbs and Smith,


Was feeling lazy, Chem Cambell & Billy Bodin...

Still disingenuous of Rob to throw that old cliche at the fan base when its kinda legit this time -

One 20 year old loanee CF in vs 2 home grown CFs out...


I was probably being a bit petty with Campbell and Knibbs as we have (hopefully) replaced them...

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Re: New Owners - Redwood Watch

by windermereROYAL » 12 Aug 2025 09:57

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I hope the host provided the context - not retaining JW or CC, selling HK, having sold SS and not retained BB the replacement....

Stop taking us for fools...


How difficult is it to print names? I got Wareham Knibbs and Smith,


Was feeling lazy, Chem Cambell & Billy Bodin...

Still disingenuous of Rob to throw that old cliche at the fan base when its kinda legit this time -

One 20 year old loanee CF in vs 2 home grown CFs out...


I was probably being a bit petty with Campbell and Knibbs as we have (hopefully) replaced them...


No problem with not retaining Bodin, he wasn`t much, Campbell just got a better offer from Stevenage (I know) not much you can do about that.

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Re: New Owners - Redwood Watch

by From Despair To Where? » 12 Aug 2025 10:10

If Bodin or Campbell were the answer, I don't want to know the question.

Smith was sold by the previous owner to keep the lights on.

Wareham was not a guaranteed starter so went where he would get starts and Knibbs was in the last year of his contract and was never going to re-sign with Championship clubs interested.

There's 3 more weeks of the window. Let's criticise then if the situation hasn't changed.
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Re: New Owners - Redwood Watch

by Snowflake Royal » 12 Aug 2025 10:14

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I hope the host provided the context - not retaining JW or CC, selling HK, having sold SS and not retained BB the replacement....

Stop taking us for fools...


How difficult is it to print names? I got Wareham Knibbs and Smith,


Was feeling lazy, Chem Cambell & Billy Bodin...

Still disingenuous of Rob to throw that old cliche at the fan base when its kinda legit this time -

One 20 year old loanee CF in vs 2 home grown CFs out...


I was probably being a bit petty with Campbell and Knibbs as we have (hopefully) replaced them...

Like it's disengenous of you to include Smith who went in January before Couhig was owner?

Didn't we offer Wareham a contract and he turned it down? Should we have held him at gunpoint?


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Re: New Owners - Redwood Watch

by Orion1871 » 12 Aug 2025 10:26

From Despair To Where? If Bodin or Campbell were the answer, I don't want to know the question.

Smith was sold by the previous owner to keep the lights on.

Wareham was not a guaranteed starter so went where he would get starts and Knibbs was in the last year of his contract and was never going to re-sign with Championship clubs interested.

There's 3 more weeks of the window. Let's criticise then if the situation hasn't changed.


Agreed although personally I'm not going to decry anyone for criticising because the ownership haven't helped themselves with their public proclamation of "awesomeness".

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Re: New Owners - Redwood Watch

by Snowflake Royal » 12 Aug 2025 10:35

Also, come on.

Chem Campbell has been replaced. With a better player in Lane.

Harvey Knibbs has been replaced with Doyle, of course we aren't going to get someone as good as a player we just sold to a higher division for millions

Wareham replaced with O'Mahoney. Pretty reasonable exchange.

Bodin replaced with Kyerewaa - that’s looking like an upgrade to me, sidegrade at worst.

Craig - Fraser - good
Mbengue - Burns - ok
Bindon - O'Connor - of course we're going to have a downgrade on Bindon, we sold him two divisions up.

For the most part our business has been very good and we're still looking for players.

Couhig inherited a team with one striker and Smith already gone. He can't just wave a magic wand.

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Re: New Owners - Redwood Watch

by WestYorksRoyal » 12 Aug 2025 10:39

Snowflake Royal Also, come on.

Chem Campbell has been replaced. With a better player in Lane.

Harvey Knibbs has been replaced with Doyle, of course we aren't going to get someone as good as a player we just sold to a higher division for millions

Wareham replaced with O'Mahoney. Pretty reasonable exchange.

Bodin replaced with Kyerewaa - that’s looking like an upgrade to me, sidegrade at worst.

Craig - Fraser - good
Mbengue - Burns - ok
Bindon - O'Connor - of course we're going to have a downgrade on Bindon, we sold him two divisions up.

For the most part our business has been very good and we're still looking for players.

Couhig inherited a team with one striker and Smith already gone. He can't just wave a magic wand.

Would also add high quality strikers don't grow on trees. We did very well to get Smith on a free 2 years ago.

Let's say the owners were willing to push the boat out and spend c. £750k on a new CF with the Knibbs money, I still can't think of an obvious option.

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Re: New Owners - Redwood Watch

by From Despair To Where? » 12 Aug 2025 10:46

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From Despair To Where? If Bodin or Campbell were the answer, I don't want to know the question.

Smith was sold by the previous owner to keep the lights on.

Wareham was not a guaranteed starter so went where he would get starts and Knibbs was in the last year of his contract and was never going to re-sign with Championship clubs interested.

There's 3 more weeks of the window. Let's criticise then if the situation hasn't changed.


Agreed although personally I'm not going to decry anyone for criticising because the ownership haven't helped themselves with their public proclamation of "awesomeness".


I get the issue with all the hyperbole but if that's the worst of their crimes then I'll take that over what's happened over the past 10-12 years.

I mean, when we were bringing genuinely world class players into the club it was all "Jorabchian has too much influence". I get that there's a balance to be found but I believe there's a fundamental honesty and open-ness to how Redwood operate.
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Re: New Owners - Redwood Watch

by Linden Jones' Tash » 12 Aug 2025 10:49

The window is still open and
I understand there is a (supposedly) sustainable budget to stick to, so let's see what happens when the window closes.

My criticism, if any, is two-fold.

1. To hype things up at the start - he didn't have to and set false expectations about the state of the squad on 'day one'...

2. To throw the old 'I'm getting beef because I haven't signed a striker'....you can't please football fans...

We're not Arsenal fans who complain about a lack of a striker comewhatmay & millions spent.

It's not illegitimate to say that a squad with only a 20 year old CF on loan on 'day one' isnt what was hyped up a month ago...

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Re: New Owners - Redwood Watch

by From Despair To Where? » 12 Aug 2025 10:53

Arsenal fans are dickheads.

Win and "we don't need a striker". Lose 2 days later and it's all " Why didn't we buy a striker?". I blame AFTV. They normalised being a clueless fcukwit".

As I said, let's judge when the window closes. This was always going to be a season of rebuild. The owners have always talked about where we will be in 5 years, not 1. To me, that's a clear indication of managing expectation.

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Re: New Owners - Redwood Watch

by Snowflake Royal » 12 Aug 2025 11:09

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From Despair To Where? If Bodin or Campbell were the answer, I don't want to know the question.

Smith was sold by the previous owner to keep the lights on.

Wareham was not a guaranteed starter so went where he would get starts and Knibbs was in the last year of his contract and was never going to re-sign with Championship clubs interested.

There's 3 more weeks of the window. Let's criticise then if the situation hasn't changed.


Agreed although personally I'm not going to decry anyone for criticising because the ownership haven't helped themselves with their public proclamation of "awesomeness".


I get the issue with all the hyperbole but if that's the worst of their crimes then I'll take that over what's happened over the past 10-12 years.

I mean, when we were bringing genuinely world class players into the club it was all "Jorabchian has too much influence". I get that there's a balance to be found but I believe there's a fundamental honesty and open-ness to how Redwood operate.

I'm never going to take 'OMG the owners are being positive having just taken over and in the build up to a new season!' seriously.

Hype? I can't believe it!

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