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Re: Kamari Doyle

by RoyalBlue » 04 Aug 2025 17:13

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Brogue Brian Howard has helped get this one over the line..


'Helped' as in 'brokered the deal in exchange for an agent's fee payment.....?


To be fair, like Stephen Hunt, he does appear to have a soft spot for and speak highly of us. He's good when he's on BBCRB as a pundit too.

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Re: Confirmed - Kamari Doyle

by RoyalBlue » 04 Aug 2025 17:15

Was Kamari Doyle the 'contingency plan', should Knibbs leave, that JJ referred to at The Purple Turtle?

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Re: Confirmed - Kamari Doyle

by Chameleon » 04 Aug 2025 17:18

End of the day we've got a Doyle in the no.9 shirt. Good things usually follow.

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Re: Confirmed - Kamari Doyle

by traff » 04 Aug 2025 17:21

Official site says he will be wearing Wings old number #29 think the PR guys were being a little playful in the video
Interesting that the number #7 shirt has not been taken yet.
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Re: Confirmed - Kamari Doyle

by LightwaterRoyal » 04 Aug 2025 17:22

Funnily enough when we played Crawley last season I mentioned how the last time we'd played them away we'd signed Hope Akpan and that if we were to do that again I'd hope they'd sign Kamari Doyle.

He's one of those players that can take the ball on the turn and drive forward, much like Ben Elliot.


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Re: Confirmed - Kamari Doyle

by Snowflake Royal » 04 Aug 2025 17:24

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Wiki Considered a two-footed player, who can receive and pass with either foot as well as strike free-kicks with either foot, it has been reported that Doyle has been mentored to a degree by James Ward-Prowse at Southampton. He has played for Southampton, England U-20s, Exeter City (on loan), and Crawley Town (on loan) in a wide range of central and attacking midfield positions, including the number 10 role.


Should be an exciting signing, be interesting to see where Noel fits him in. Hopefully already has an understanding with O’Mahony (& vice versa) so can get the best out of the pair of them.

You'd think he's here to start matches.

Could maybe push Kelvin into a striker role by playing left wing. Or maybe push Elliott to the bench and play as the third midfielder with Wing and Savage. Seems unlikely we'd sign him and Lane for the RW.

Gives Kyerewaa a season to develop as well potentially.

Good. But he's not a striker.

That should be about it for loans I'd have thought. Doyle, Burns, O'Mahoney, Jacob... only room for one more.

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Re: Confirmed - Kamari Doyle

by Sutekh » 04 Aug 2025 17:53

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Wiki Considered a two-footed player, who can receive and pass with either foot as well as strike free-kicks with either foot, it has been reported that Doyle has been mentored to a degree by James Ward-Prowse at Southampton. He has played for Southampton, England U-20s, Exeter City (on loan), and Crawley Town (on loan) in a wide range of central and attacking midfield positions, including the number 10 role.


Should be an exciting signing, be interesting to see where Noel fits him in. Hopefully already has an understanding with O’Mahony (& vice versa) so can get the best out of the pair of them.

You'd think he's here to start matches.

Could maybe push Kelvin into a striker role by playing left wing. Or maybe push Elliott to the bench and play as the third midfielder with Wing and Savage. Seems unlikely we'd sign him and Lane for the RW.

Gives Kyerewaa a season to develop as well potentially.

Good. But he's not a striker.

That should be about it for loans I'd have thought. Doyle, Burns, O'Mahoney, Jacob... only room for one more.


No limit on the number of loans, just on the number that can be in a matchday squad - though you’d have to be a tit to loan in more that 5

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Re: Confirmed - Kamari Doyle

by WestYorksRoyal » 04 Aug 2025 20:04

Injured yet?

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Re: Confirmed - Kamari Doyle

by Brogue » 04 Aug 2025 20:05

RoyalBlue Was Kamari Doyle the 'contingency plan', should Knibbs leave, that JJ referred to at The Purple Turtle?


Nah he was coming in regardless.


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Re: Confirmed - Kamari Doyle

by Esteban » 04 Aug 2025 21:41

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RoyalBlue Was Kamari Doyle the 'contingency plan', should Knibbs leave, that JJ referred to at The Purple Turtle?


Nah he was coming in regardless.


That's a bit confusing. If Ritchie and Cole are signing, who is the contingency? Would have thought Doyle fits that bill neatly.

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Re: Confirmed - Kamari Doyle

by Brogue » 04 Aug 2025 22:00

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RoyalBlue Was Kamari Doyle the 'contingency plan', should Knibbs leave, that JJ referred to at The Purple Turtle?


Nah he was coming in regardless.


That's a bit confusing. If Ritchie and Cole are signing, who is the contingency? Would have thought Doyle fits that bill neatly.


Dunno tbh but I’ve known about this for a few weeks now. Way before Charlton came in for knibbs. and as he’s says
‘‘I'm very excited, it's something that's been in the pipeline for a while, so I'm glad it's over the line."

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Re: Confirmed - Kamari Doyle

by Sutekh » 05 Aug 2025 06:16

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Nah he was coming in regardless.


That's a bit confusing. If Ritchie and Cole are signing, who is the contingency? Would have thought Doyle fits that bill neatly.


Dunno tbh but I’ve known about this for a few weeks now. Way before Charlton came in for knibbs. and as he’s says
‘‘I'm very excited, it's something that's been in the pipeline for a while, so I'm glad it's over the line."


The club have probably known that interest in Knibbs from higher divisions would be likely for the last year or so, therefore this being a contingency is indeed very likely.

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Re: Confirmed - Kamari Doyle

by Stranded » 05 Aug 2025 06:54

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That's a bit confusing. If Ritchie and Cole are signing, who is the contingency? Would have thought Doyle fits that bill neatly.


Dunno tbh but I’ve known about this for a few weeks now. Way before Charlton came in for knibbs. and as he’s says
‘‘I'm very excited, it's something that's been in the pipeline for a while, so I'm glad it's over the line."


The club have probably known that interest in Knibbs from higher divisions would be likely for the last year or so, therefore this being a contingency is indeed very likely.


It is close to 100% likely that the club knew Knibbs would be leaving this summer and likely discussed this with Brighton when looking to bring in Doyle. It would otherwise be a massive coincidence that Knibbs goes on Friday and a player that is essentially his replacement arrives on Monday.

Now Lane's move seemed to be super quick so not impossible but ties in with the fact that we have clearly spoken to Doyle over the summer to keep him keen on the move and ready to go once Knibbs went.


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Re: Confirmed - Kamari Doyle

by RG30 » 05 Aug 2025 07:36

This was an article written earlier in the summer by The Athletic's Brighton correspondent Andy Naylor which makes for interesting reading.

During a recent guest appearance with Brighton & Hove Albion’s official supporters’ club, Gordon Greer identified Kamari Doyle when the loans manager was asked about a player to keep an eye on for the future.

It is a good indication of Doyle’s potential, considering that more than 20 players were loaned out by the club during the 2024-25 campaign at a variety of levels, including the Premier League. (Facundo Buonanotte spent the season at Leicester City, Evan Ferguson joined West Ham United on loan from the winter window, and Julio Enciso went to Ipswich Town from January.)

Doyle’s career is heading in the right direction again after contrasting spells with two League One clubs in 2024-25. The 19-year-old playmaker’s fortunes were transformed by a mid-season swap to Crawley Town from Exeter City.

Doyle’s loan to Exeter last August kicked off off in style. He scored his first senior goal from a free kick on his full debut in a 2-0 win away at Bolton Wanderers.

It was reminiscent of James Ward-Prowse, his mentor at Southampton, the club where he started as a seven-year-old, training at their academy in Bath. However, that goal turned out to be the high point of a stint that was supposed to last for the season but was cut short by Brighton in January after Doyle dropped out of the picture for Gary Caldwell’s side.

By the time Doyle returned to the Amex Stadium he had made the same number of league appearances from the bench (10) as in the starting line-up. In those games he contributed three goals and no assists, having mainly been used by Caldwell as one of two No 10s in a flexible 3-4-2-1 formation, or sometimes deeper as one of two No 6s.

“When he first came into the side he looked like a player too good for the level, really good on the ball, skilful,” Daniel Clark, Exeter correspondent for Devon Live, told The Athletic. “The sticking point was not so much what he could do with the ball as off the ball. He wasn’t sticking in positions to press and perhaps wasn’t working hard enough to keep in the shape off the ball.

“That was the downfall which led to him dropping out of first-team contention. There were games where he had one or two brilliant moments but would otherwise be anonymous. He had the skills, the technique, but perhaps not quite the work rate to fit into the system they were trying to play. There is definitely a player there if he can put it all together.”

A move instead to Brighton’s neighbours was not an obvious fit aside from geography — Crawley is just 20 miles away. Doyle was taken off at half-time by Caldwell in Exeter’s final fixture of 2024, a 4-4 draw at fellow strugglers Crawley from 4-1 down at the interval. The result left Crawley in relegation peril in 21st place.

Although he could not save them from the drop into the fourth tier, Doyle’s form at Crawley was scintillating. He contributed seven goals and four assists in 21 appearances, including 15 starts, under Rob Elliot and then Scott Lindsey who took over in March.

A purple patch in February and March saw Doyle score four goals with three assists over 11 league games, the highest number of goal involvements of any teenager in the top four tiers over the period. He followed that with two goals in a 4-0 win at Rotherham, prompting a cheeky request on Crawley’s social media account to Brighton for an asking price to sign him permanently.

“We couldn’t believe that he was potentially going to be available,” Elliot told The Athletic. “I spoke to him and went down to Brighton, spoke to Gordon Greer. The questions about him were out of possession and his work rate. I didn’t really see that myself when I watched him. I thought he worked hard and was very gifted.

“He can look to the eye sometimes a bit lethargic, the way he runs, but the eye impression can be different to the output. I spoke to a couple of players at Exeter that I know and they spoke highly of him.

“When I spoke to him, he was very mature for his age. I told him that if his work rate and out-of-possession stuff was spot-on, his ability is unquestionable. From minute one when he walked in until I left he was different class.

“He scored goals, was top of the stats for physical output, trained hard every day, was never a problem. He was just a joy to be around. He has got an exciting future in the game. He is two-footed, can score goals and control the game. He has got a really good opportunity.

“Eventually, I think he will be able to play a more dynamic midfield role as a No 8, but for now he is best as a No 10. You want him central, because he has a real knack of arriving in the box and he has got a fantastic finish. He comes alive in front of goal. Clubs spend millions for someone who can put the ball in the net.”


Doyle appeared to be a star in the making at Southampton. Born to an English-Jamaican mother and a Rwandan father, he signed a professional contract at the age of 17, made his first-team debut as a substitute against Brighton in the Premier League in May 2023 and represented England at junior levels.

Brighton took advantage of his reluctance to commit to a new contract at Southampton when they signed him in the January 2024 transfer window, blooding him initially in the under-21s. His prolific loan at Crawley, to begin with under Elliot, has put his career back on track.

Elliot made 52 Premier League appearances in goal for Newcastle from 2011 to 2020 during his playing days, which also included spells in the second and third tiers for Charlton Athletic, so he knows what it takes to play at the top level.

“I believe he can go as far as he wants,” Elliot said of Doyle. “I wouldn’t be surprised if he makes appearances for Brighton’s first team. Whether he can maintain that and become a regular is hard to tell when you step up the levels, but I think he is going to get better and better.

“The best thing for him next season is to play regular football in a team that suits the way he plays, whether that is at the top of League One or maybe even the Championship.”


https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6328783/2025/06/10/kamari-doyle-brighton-loan/

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Re: Confirmed - Kamari Doyle

by Linden Jones' Tash » 05 Aug 2025 08:21

Sounds like BHA rate him highly and play hard ball if their loanees dont get game time....

Interesting dynamics for a young manager to navigate
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Re: Kamari Doyle

by Linden Jones' Tash » 05 Aug 2025 08:24

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Brogue Brian Howard has helped get this one over the line..


'Helped' as in 'brokered the deal in exchange for an agent's fee payment.....?


To be fair, like Stephen Hunt, he does appear to have a soft spot for and speak highly of us. He's good when he's on BBCRB as a pundit too.


No doubt, I'm just curious as to whether it was fully pro bono or invoicable....

Football is a different world when it comes to service/agent fees...

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Re: Confirmed - Kamari Doyle

by WestYorksRoyal » 05 Aug 2025 08:29

Linden Jones' Tash Sounds like BHA rate him highly and play hard ball if their loanees dont get gane time....

Interesting dynamics for a young manager to navigate

Sounds like he'll be given a good chance and we expect him to start. And if he fails to perform and loses his place, isn't that also a valuable experience to learn early in his career?

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Re: Confirmed - Kamari Doyle

by Linden Jones' Tash » 05 Aug 2025 08:59

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Linden Jones' Tash Sounds like BHA rate him highly and play hard ball if their loanees dont get gane time....

Interesting dynamics for a young manager to navigate

Sounds like he'll be given a good chance and we expect him to start. And if he fails to perform and loses his place, isn't that also a valuable experience to learn early in his career?


For the players, yes...

but if the context is that, come the January window, the parent club might consider the game time to be too little and cut the loan short, it's an interesting dynamic....

I know there are all sorts of influences on team selection, this will be interested to observe.

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Re: Confirmed - Kamari Doyle

by Hound » 05 Aug 2025 09:18

I suspect some of the reason we’ve got the loans we have is with the parent club fully expecting the player to be first choice

I’d expect Burns, O Mahony and Doyle all to have some sort of guarantee of game time or else a likely recall

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Re: Confirmed - Kamari Doyle

by Linden Jones' Tash » 05 Aug 2025 09:22

Hound I suspect some of the reason we’ve got the loans we have is with the parent club fully expecting the player to be first choice

I’d expect Burns, O Mahony and Doyle all to have some sort of guarantee of game time or else a likely recall


That would certainly explain the lack of hesitation & conviction when Carey confirmed MOM as the incumbent CF for the season at the Purple Turtle event...

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