We're crap ..........but only 5 points worse off than we should be at this stage ... more stupid and pointless stats

[fred sharpes nose]

To have a decent season (around playoffs with 77 pts) you need to get points as follows -
Top 6 - draw at home lose away - 5 from this group assumign a top 6 finish)
Second 6 - draw at home draw away - 12 pts from this group
Third 6 - win at home draw away - 24 pts from this group
Bottom 6 - win at home win away 36 pts from this group

Of course depends on where your team sits in the table at any one time (and also how the table changes over time - e.g an early season away win against an, at the time, top six side is 3 pts better than expected but when that team is in the bottom 6 at the end of the season its only par) - can use this technique to predict the final finish place if you can be arsed to keep a weekly record.

After yesterdays performance against Boro we have 13pts but should have 18pts as follows
Sheff Utd away expect 0, actual 0, variance 0
Bristol home expect 1, actual 0, variance -1
Leeds away expect 0, actual 3, variance +3
Villa home expect 1, actual 3, variance +2
Norwich home expect 1, actual 0, variance -1
Preston away expect 1, actual 0, variance -1
Boro home expect 1, actual 0, variance -1
Fulham home expect 3, actual 1, variance -2
QPR away expect 1, actual 0, variance -1
Milwall away expect 1, actual 0, variance -1
Hull home expect 3, actual 1, variance -2
Brentford away expect 1, actual 1, variance 0
Birmingham away expect 3, actual 3, variance 0

So just need to beat Cardiff and Ipswich away (for example assumign they stay in the 1 st and 2nd six respectively) to recoer where we should be

[strap]

To have a decent season (around playoffs with 77 pts) you need to get points as follows -
Top 6 - draw at home lose away - 5 from this group assumign a top 6 finish)
Second 6 - draw at home draw away - 12 pts from this group
Third 6 - win at home draw away - 24 pts from this group
Bottom 6 - win at home win away 36 pts from this group

Of course depends on where your team sits in the table at any one time (and also how the table changes over time - e.g an early season away win against an, at the time, top six side is 3 pts better than expected but when that team is in the bottom 6 at the end of the season its only par) - can use this technique to predict the final finish place if you can be arsed to keep a weekly record.

After yesterdays performance against Boro we have 13pts but should have 18pts as follows

As you say - ... more stupid and pointless stats. Who "expects" a positive result? We get what we deserve on the performance on the pitch.

Please explain why we SHOULD have 18 points? We are where we are because haven't won enough games. It's like saying Leeds are a big club and SHOULD be in the PL! We rip the piss out of supporters of other teams who say that sort of thing.

We SHOULD have a decent manager, we SHOULD have bought a couple of strikers in the last transfer window. I SHOULD oxf*rd off and die.

Do you see my point? Sorry if I'm being obtuse, but we are where we are because we are not playing well enough.

[West Stand Man]

To have a decent season (around playoffs with 77 pts) you need to get points as follows -
Top 6 - draw at home lose away - 5 from this group assumign a top 6 finish)
Second 6 - draw at home draw away - 12 pts from this group
Third 6 - win at home draw away - 24 pts from this group
Bottom 6 - win at home win away 36 pts from this group

Of course depends on where your team sits in the table at any one time (and also how the table changes over time - e.g an early season away win against an, at the time, top six side is 3 pts better than expected but when that team is in the bottom 6 at the end of the season its only par) - can use this technique to predict the final finish place if you can be arsed to keep a weekly record.

After yesterdays performance against Boro we have 13pts but should have 18pts as follows

As you say - ... more stupid and pointless stats. Who "expects" a positive result? We get what we deserve on the performance on the pitch.

Please explain why we SHOULD have 18 points? We are where we are because haven't won enough games. It's like saying Leeds are a big club and SHOULD be in the PL! We rip the piss out of supporters of other teams who say that sort of thing.

We SHOULD have a decent manager, we SHOULD have bought a couple of strikers in the last transfer window. I SHOULD oxf*rd off and die.

Do you see my point? Sorry if I'm being obtuse, but we are where we are because we are not playing well enough.

The only thing that I can see is that it is clear that you haven't read the original post. Either that, or this is further proof that you don't do maths.

It is a pretty simple thing to follow. The OP shows what points we, or any other club, should get from each game if we are to get into the play offs. It then shows that we have fallen short of that target but not by as far as we might think. So, if we are expecting to be in the top six at the end of the season we should have at least eighteen points at the moment, based on the teams we have played.

[Victor Meldrew]

"ONLY 5 points"?
So that is over 40% better than we have actually achieved-that IMHO makes us rather a long way off where we should be if a play-off spot is to be achieved.
The other factor is that we have a 100% fail rate in play-offs so our aim has to be top 2 surely?