End Of Season HNA? Brian Confidence Poll...

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Confident He's The Right Man For The Job?

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Yes
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End Of Season HNA? Brian Confidence Poll...

by Crux » 09 May 2016 18:41

I know HNA? participants are generally mongs but lets see what the confidence rating is now.

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Re: End Of Season HNA? Brian Confidence Poll...

by Top Flight » 09 May 2016 19:49

My mongtastic feeling is that I have full confidence in Brian and given enough of a chance he will take us places and bring great nights of football back to the Madejski Stadium. Nights like this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9cQgc5suSM

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Re: End Of Season HNA? Brian Confidence Poll...

by Lower West » 09 May 2016 19:51

Mass hysteria is becoming very tedious. We are far far away from being a side to challenge the promotion spots. Enjoy the games for what they are.

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Re: End Of Season HNA? Brian Confidence Poll...

by Extended-Phenotype » 17 May 2016 12:16

Hard to say. He's not done much worse than our two previous managers who had more time to bed in and had the opportunity and backing to put a team together. Any failings towards the end of the season could have been down to a whole host of other reasons more to do with the players, contracts and circumstances than manager.

So avoid a knee jerk reaction, wait for clearer waters and judge the man this coming season. Otherwise we will just keep letting managers go without really knowing what they might have achieved given the chance.

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Re: End Of Season HNA? Brian Confidence Poll...

by One8Seven1* » 17 May 2016 12:53

Should have left the poll running.

SACK. Lovely guy, a real gent, but with a much depreciated budget, huge changes to the squad this summer, unrealistically high expectations from the Thai's, and so many kids likely to bolster the first-team squad, he has no chance! Tactically I'm not convinced either. If anyone was suited to bringing these kids through it's Martin Kuhl. A typically cheap option for RFC, and I would assume a popular one amongst the playing staff.
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Re: End Of Season HNA? Brian Confidence Poll...

by Hoop Blah » 17 May 2016 12:57

Extended-Phenotype So avoid a knee jerk reaction, wait for clearer waters and judge the man this coming season. Otherwise we will just keep letting managers go without really knowing what they might have achieved given the chance.


This.

Although I don't think he's done enough as yet, it's far too early to kick him out and he deserves the chance to build his own squad this summer.

As long as the owners are supporting him and we're showing signs of progress he should get the chance to build on his past successes.

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Re: End Of Season HNA? Brian Confidence Poll...

by Top Flight » 17 May 2016 14:03

One8Seven1* Should have left the poll running.

SACK. Lovely guy, a real gent, but with a much depreciated budget, huge changes to the squad this summer, unrealistically high expectations from the Thai's, and so many kids likely to bolster the first-team squad, he has no chance! Tactically I'm not convinced either. If anyone was suited to bringing these kids through it's Martin Kuhl. A typically cheap option for RFC, and I would assume a popular one amongst the playing staff.


Any manager will have to deal with that same set of circumstances that you have just outlined.

Which manager does have a chance in those circumstances then?

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Re: End Of Season HNA? Brian Confidence Poll...

by Top Flight » 17 May 2016 14:04

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Extended-Phenotype So avoid a knee jerk reaction, wait for clearer waters and judge the man this coming season. Otherwise we will just keep letting managers go without really knowing what they might have achieved given the chance.


This.

Although I don't think he's done enough as yet, it's far too early to kick him out and he deserves the chance to build his own squad this summer.

As long as the owners are supporting him and we're showing signs of progress he should get the chance to build on his past successes.


You're a good man Hoop Blah. At least you're prepared to give Brian a chance!

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Re: End Of Season HNA? Brian Confidence Poll...

by muirinho » 17 May 2016 16:04

One8Seven1* Should have left the poll running.

SACK. Lovely guy, a real gent, but with a much depreciated budget, huge changes to the squad this summer, unrealistically high expectations from the Thai's, and so many kids likely to bolster the first-team squad, he has no chance! Tactically I'm not convinced either. If anyone was suited to bringing these kids through it's Martin Kuhl. A typically cheap option for RFC, and I would assume a popular one amongst the playing staff.


So, let's reduce the available budget even more by sacking BMcD who would have to be paid off? Yeah, that makes sense!
Especially as you're not even sure ANY manager could succeed, and have no evidence Martin Kuhl would be better.


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Re: End Of Season HNA? Brian Confidence Poll...

by Green » 17 May 2016 16:29

Crux I know HNA? participants are generally mongs but lets see what the confidence rating is now.

We speak highly of you by accounts Crux

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Re: End Of Season HNA? Brian Confidence Poll...

by Snowball » 17 May 2016 16:32

Top Flight My mongtastic feeling is that I have full confidence in Brian and given enough of a chance he will take us places and bring great nights of football back to the Madejski Stadium. Nights like this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9cQgc5suSM




Argh. I started watching that, then the follow-up videos, then Jem coming into the dressing room still
high on pain-killing drugs, and ended up in tears!

As an aside, seeing these guys, "real men" in my eyes, Armstrong, poor guy, Elwood (looked way younger than I remembered)
and what a team, what a season. We need a McAnuff, a Gorkks, another TEAM.

Hear the pundits admitting that they said if RFC managed tenth they would have been punching way above their weight.

And like Spurs showed a lack of deep-character this season, like Reading did, thinking of our current players, I sincerely don't think they could ever have puled something like that off. It's not just about skills, there's something else, Hoel.

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Re: End Of Season HNA? Brian Confidence Poll...

by savage 4 england » 17 May 2016 16:50

Did't agree with his appointment, but I think he should stay. We need someone to sort this shower of shite out and bring some good characters in. If we keep sacking managers we won't get anywhere. A clear structure of style, recruitment and progression needs to be defined by someone above Brian and should remain constant regardless of the manager.

I think with Brian in charge we won't get relegated from this division. At the moment anything above that is a bonus.,

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Re: End Of Season HNA? Brian Confidence Poll...

by Ian Royal » 17 May 2016 21:22

Hoop Blah
Extended-Phenotype So avoid a knee jerk reaction, wait for clearer waters and judge the man this coming season. Otherwise we will just keep letting managers go without really knowing what they might have achieved given the chance.


This.

Although I don't think he's done enough as yet, it's far too early to kick him out and he deserves the chance to build his own squad this summer.

As long as the owners are supporting him and we're showing signs of progress he should get the chance to build on his past successes.

Mega +1


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Re: End Of Season HNA? Brian Confidence Poll...

by Kitsondinho » 17 May 2016 21:29

It will take more than just a few months to sort out the total mess the club is in. Keep Brian and let him build a team.....steadily. We can't keep changing manager every year!

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Re: End Of Season HNA? Brian Confidence Poll...

by Top Flight » 17 May 2016 23:33

Ian Royal
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Extended-Phenotype So avoid a knee jerk reaction, wait for clearer waters and judge the man this coming season. Otherwise we will just keep letting managers go without really knowing what they might have achieved given the chance.


This.

Although I don't think he's done enough as yet, it's far too early to kick him out and he deserves the chance to build his own squad this summer.

As long as the owners are supporting him and we're showing signs of progress he should get the chance to build on his past successes.

Mega +1


You and Hoop Blah are very welcome members of the "We love Brian!" Happy club. We're doing a picnic this weekend in honour of Brian. You're very welcome to come. We'll be remembering all the great moments from Brian's time managing the Royals.

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Re: End Of Season HNA? Brian Confidence Poll...

by tidus_mi2 » 18 May 2016 12:58

The picnic has nothing to do with Brian, yet you are using it as an attack against him, good job.

We won't go anywhere constantly chopping and changing the manager, although I can't argue that much against our last 2 dismissals, Adkins was very kneejerk but it was a reaction to a terrible result on the back of a run of bad results, Clarke shot himself in the foot by talking to Fulham.

Look at the 2 teams that have gone up and the 2 in the play-offs:

Burnley: Dyche has been there 4 seasons, they stuck with him despite relegation from the Premier League
Boro: Karanka has been there 2 and a half seasons.
Hull: Bruce has been there 4 seasons, they stuck with him despite relegation from the Premier League (carbon copy of Dyche)
Sheff Wed: Exception to the 4, new manager this season with owner investing heavily.

Right or wrong, the club decided to appoint McDermott and he should get a full season at a minimum, if he has us in a relegation scrap or like Clarke, makes his position untenable, that might change circumstances but otherwise he should get the season.

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Re: End Of Season HNA? Brian Confidence Poll...

by Hoop Blah » 18 May 2016 13:26

tidus_mi2 Look at the 2 teams that have gone up and the 2 in the play-offs:


What about the two that lost, Brighton and Derby, who have both chopped and changed a fair bit.

Look at last year too, Watford and Norwich have hardly been the most stable managerial seats have they?

Ultimately it's about how good a job the manager is doing rather than how long they stay. If the manager is showing progress then I totally agree they need to be stuck with but we shouldn't just blindly stick with a manager to avoid disruption if that manager is taking us backward and not the right man (as in Clarke's case).

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Re: End Of Season HNA? Brian Confidence Poll...

by Ian Royal » 18 May 2016 13:50

There does come a point though where the changes themselves take more of a toll than an underperforming manager and you have to start looking at causes for poor management performance outside the manager. See Leeds.

Sometimes you need to suck it up, batten down the hatches and stick by an underperforming manager to gain some stability, then once that's solidified you at least have a settled club to build from with your new guy, even if it means you got relegated.

Because the examples of teams who do well for long when chopping and changing when struggling are very few compared to those who stagnate or deteriorate.

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