BFTG - Huddersfield

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by Big Foot » 20 Jan 2016 11:01

Hoop Blah I've seen a few comments on how well Cooper played. He's decent enough but yet again we've looked shakey with him at the back and he's made errors that have led to goals and chances going against us. He's a decent prospect, but he's far from the finished article and the sooner McShane gets back in the side the better.

Agreed - he will go on to be a decent player for us, no doubt, but right now he is a little too raw and would benefit from a run of games out on loan, IMO. He would be a cracking signing for any League 1 side pushing for promotion/play-offs until the end of the season. Bit like Morrison when he went up to Huddersfield.

(Interesting to note that he's never been out on loan before - bit unusual for one of our younger players)

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by Maneki Neko » 20 Jan 2016 11:02

wingnut I just think it looked harsh and I said as such at the game, my m8s agreed and everyone else around us were surprised at the colour of the card shown.
We just have to look back to Saturday for an example of where a different interpretation is applied to a similar incident.


miles further out, so the possibility of someone else coming in and stopping the chance goes up.
but agree, both of them should have been red.

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by LWJ » 20 Jan 2016 11:05

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LWJ Huddesfield should use you as part of their appeal then, as obviously you know a lot about football :roll:


For gods sake, all I am saying is I've seen those given as a foul/yellow card rather than a foul/red card, and we were lucky that the referee gave it as a red card.

The problem you have Jano is the picture's show conclusive proof that;
A) No defenders to cover
B) Direct route to goal, 1m off centre.
C) 1m from the edge of the box

If that isn't a red card then we might as well scrap the rule completely.

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by sandman » 20 Jan 2016 11:05

Hoop Blah
Pepe the Horseman How did Piazon and Hal play?


Both pretty crap to be honest. A little harsh on Robson-Kanu perhaps, but only because he had to play on the wrong side once McCleary went off injured and perhaps Piazon who was positively involved in a few key moments of course.

I'd have been tempted to hook Piazon off after 25 minutes as he was showing all his negative traits without any of the good stuff to balance them out. He grew into the game a little, but so a player of his type should when the extra space comes thanks to the opposition being down to 10.

Great to see Vydra take his chances well. He had one or two before his goal that he might have done better with, but he was clinical after putting the first one away (which he made look easy to be fair).

The most positive thing that came out of last night, IMO, was the obvious team spirit among those on the pitch. You could see how much it meant to Vydra to score and it was noticeable how many of his teammates made special effort to congratulate him. They, unlike some fans and certain muppets in the media, obviously recognise his effort, quality and how well he's been playing (without the goals).

I've seen a few comments on how well Cooper played. He's decent enough but yet again we've looked shakey with him at the back and he's made errors that have led to goals and chances going against us. He's a decent prospect, but he's far from the finished article and the sooner McShane gets back in the side the better.

Feel a bit sorry for Sa!


The point Mr High Horse is that Vydra's effort is admirable but he was not brought here for effort alone, he was brought here as a proven Championship goal scorer to get us the goals that would get us promoted. No one has ever said he's lacking in effort, not even Dellor.

Try actually reading and listening.

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by LWJ » 20 Jan 2016 11:08

wingnut I just think it looked harsh and I said as such at the game, my m8s agreed and everyone else around us were surprised at the colour of the card shown.
We just have to look back to Saturday for an example of where a different interpretation is applied to a similar incident.

Saturday the incident was probably 20 yards further from goal. That was a 50/50 decision. Where were you sat out of interest? I was 1/3rd up in Y25 and everyone around thought it was a clear cut red.


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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by RG7Fan » 20 Jan 2016 11:14

Pepe the Horseman
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Nope. Attendance was 8119. And there were 7 (SEVEN) goals. So not sure where you got that from.


There were more goals than degrees centigrade thats for sure ...

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by wingnut » 20 Jan 2016 11:20

LWJ
wingnut I just think it looked harsh and I said as such at the game, my m8s agreed and everyone else around us were surprised at the colour of the card shown.
We just have to look back to Saturday for an example of where a different interpretation is applied to a similar incident.

Saturday the incident was probably 20 yards further from goal. That was a 50/50 decision. Where were you sat out of interest? I was 1/3rd up in Y25 and everyone around thought it was a clear cut red.

Lower west, towards that goal. Perhaps a more elev8ed position may have shown that the other defenders were further away than they appeared to us.

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by Hoop Blah » 20 Jan 2016 11:26

sandman The point Mr High Horse is that Vydra's effort is admirable but he was not brought here for effort alone, he was brought here as a proven Championship goal scorer to get us the goals that would get us promoted. No one has ever said he's lacking in effort, not even Dellor.

Try actually reading and listening.


I've seen and heard plenty of people saying he's useless, crap, not worth his place, shouldn't be playing blah blah blah.

He's played well in just about every game, not perfect and not in all games like every other player, but absolutely he's failed in front of goal on too many occasions. If that's all that he was being criticised for then it wouldn't have been so cringeworthy.

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by genome » 20 Jan 2016 11:29

From the Watford forum:

Quote Originally Posted by Mighty Mo
Vydra is all about confidence. The hat trick will do his confidence the world of good and he could go on a run of scoring from now. We've seen it happen many times.


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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by WestRoyal » 20 Jan 2016 11:31

RG30 Despite the -2 temperatures that was an excellent night's entertainment for £10. Awful start however with Cooper and Ferdinand getting torn to shreds. Cooper at fault for the first misplacing his header and the lack of clearance cost us for the second. Could and should have been 4 with Al-Habsi coming out well to Wells before nearly spilling one in the net.

Game turned on the sending-off which was slightly harsh although Piazon dispatched the resulting free-kick brilliantly. From that point you only felt there was going to be one winner with the extra man advantage and the possibility of extra-time.

Vydra took his goals excellent while Ola John was far better than McCleary who was again awful before picking up another injury.

Good night's work and a winnable fourth round game with Walsall awaits.


The whole team were awful before the red card blessing

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by Esteban » 20 Jan 2016 11:32

tidus_mi2 Lwj beat me to the posting of an image but pretty much what he said, how can it not be a red card?


I was at the other end to the incident and thought we were very fortunate at the time. Having seen the replay now, it's a red all day long.

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by WestRoyal » 20 Jan 2016 11:35

sandman
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Pepe the Horseman How did Piazon and Hal play?


Both pretty crap to be honest. A little harsh on Robson-Kanu perhaps, but only because he had to play on the wrong side once McCleary went off injured and perhaps Piazon who was positively involved in a few key moments of course.

I'd have been tempted to hook Piazon off after 25 minutes as he was showing all his negative traits without any of the good stuff to balance them out. He grew into the game a little, but so a player of his type should when the extra space comes thanks to the opposition being down to 10.

Great to see Vydra take his chances well. He had one or two before his goal that he might have done better with, but he was clinical after putting the first one away (which he made look easy to be fair).

The most positive thing that came out of last night, IMO, was the obvious team spirit among those on the pitch. You could see how much it meant to Vydra to score and it was noticeable how many of his teammates made special effort to congratulate him. They, unlike some fans and certain muppets in the media, obviously recognise his effort, quality and how well he's been playing (without the goals).

I've seen a few comments on how well Cooper played. He's decent enough but yet again we've looked shakey with him at the back and he's made errors that have led to goals and chances going against us. He's a decent prospect, but he's far from the finished article and the sooner McShane gets back in the side the better.

Feel a bit sorry for Sa!


The point Mr High Horse is that Vydra's effort is admirable but he was not brought here for effort alone, he was brought here as a proven Championship goal scorer to get us the goals that would get us promoted. No one has ever said he's lacking in effort, not even Dellor.

Try actually reading and listening.


Spot on

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by No Fixed Abode » 20 Jan 2016 11:37

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No Fixed Abode Is it true there were more goals than fans at the game last night?

Nope. Attendance was 8119. And there were 7 (SEVEN) goals. So not sure where you got that from.


There were more goals than degrees centigrade thats for sure ...


#TheMagicOfTheCup :lol:



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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by CountryRoyal » 20 Jan 2016 11:37

A fair amount of positivity going on what with us scoring 5 goals and coming from behind to win, so I'll even it up by saying our crossing is oxf*rd terrible, Gunter particularly at fault and though Taylor wasn't much better he produced one cracking ball which HRK headed against the bar.

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by Extended-Phenotype » 20 Jan 2016 11:37

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Armadillo Roadkill It could easily have not been a red card (from where I was sat, the referee might well have considered at least two Huddersfield players could have got to Vydra before he was one-on-one with their (excellent) keeper). But it was also a pretty stupid place to commit a foul, so they can't feel too aggrieved. Amazing support - hats off.

Reading were, from there on, pretty effective against ten men, and the goals went in through sheer persistence as much as anything else.

And also, whilst I'm still not getting carried away, a bit disgusted by McDermott bringing on Sa at the end. Nice gesture to give Vydra his chance of an ovation, but putting Sa on for a few seconds looks, to me at least, calculated to humiliate him. And there's no need for that.


Pretty sure that wasn't the reason but it does kinda spoil the theory that Sa couldn't be picked Saturday because he's off to Greece.


if that is aimed at me E-P you're going to get a slap down you little bitch


:lol:

Was that you? Soz, wasn't a dig or nuffin - just the most obvious reason for overlooking Sa seemed to be that he couldn't play as he's soon to be someone else's player. Looks more likely to be because of an attitude problem or maybe a lack of quality in training or something.

I know he hasn't been great but then neither have a number of players who still get a chance to turn things around. It's just a little confusing when you stump up cash for a new player and they get left out in the cold.

Maybe he's a cock.

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by genome » 20 Jan 2016 11:38

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Pepe the Horseman Nope. Attendance was 8119. And there were 7 (SEVEN) goals. So not sure where you got that from.


There were more goals than degrees centigrade thats for sure ...


#TheMagicOfTheCup :lol:



The stand was closed m8, hth

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by No Fixed Abode » 20 Jan 2016 11:41

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#TheMagicOfTheCup :lol:



The stand was closed m8, hth


Yep - due to lack of demand for tickets.

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by Maneki Neko » 20 Jan 2016 11:42

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There were more goals than degrees centigrade thats for sure ...


#TheMagicOfTheCup :lol:



The stand was closed m8, hth

Not sure that helps
It was closed cos no one wanted to go

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by genome » 20 Jan 2016 11:43

You've been on the Team board at lot lately, what happened to your mantra of not getting worked up about teams that don't affect you?

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by leon » 20 Jan 2016 11:45

FAO E-P

8)

Like everyone else on here - I don't know what's going on but when he left Legia Warsaw there were rumours about his attitude to practice, his team mates and general application. There must be a decent reason for not playing him - apart from his lack of goals and never getting in the box.
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