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[Mr Optimist]

Kes, what was your view on the two Southampton penalty claims on Saturday

Shirt holding one was a penalty but this happens week in week out and most are never given.

Mane one was wasn't a penalty and he should have received a yellow for diving.

So......just so I can get this straight, you are saying the officials were correct and neither Saints "penalty" shouts should've been penalties. The shirt swapping/holding back was something that happens regularly to that extent so that is justification for not giving it. For the Mane claim, the defender did not make contact late with Mane after the ball and man had gone past him?

Presumably you agree with Jose that Chelsea however should've had a penalty when the ball got away from Falcao due to a poor touch and went down before any contact was made with the Saints keeper?

Just curious to get your unbiased knowledgable view on the key incidents.....

[No Fixed Abode]

And Porto's two etc etc.

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They're weren't in question. But what about the blatant handball by the Porto defender right in front of the inept assistant by the goal line.....

[No Fixed Abode]

Kes, what was your view on the two Southampton penalty claims on Saturday

Shirt holding one was a penalty but this happens week in week out and most are never given.

Mane one was wasn't a penalty and he should have received a yellow for diving.

So......just so I can get this straight, you are saying the officials were correct and neither Saints "penalty" shouts should've been penalties. The shirt swapping/holding back was something that happens regularly to that extent so that is justification for not giving it. For the Mane claim, the defender did not make contact late with Mane after the ball and man had gone past him?

Presumably you agree with Jose that Chelsea however should've had a penalty when the ball got away from Falcao due to a poor touch and went down before any contact was made with the Saints keeper?

Just curious to get your unbiased knowledgable view on the key incidents.....

It's quite evident it doesn't matter what I think. You have your own (pre-conceived) opinions.

[No Fixed Abode]

Ok, I guess I agree with that.

It's nothing to do with a conspiracy against Chelsea though.

But it's not an isol8ed incident. Granted, you're always going to get decisions for and against you during a season - but it's the consistency which is the issue.

Gabriel's red card was rescinded for the incident with Costa for retaliation. Last season Matic was red carded for retaliation for the Ashley Barnes incident. So the FA have now set a precedent whereby it's ok to retali8. If they issue a red for retaliation again this season then they will lose even more credibility.

Yeh. There's inconsistency, we know this.

Not evidence of an anti-Chelsea conspiracy though.

There's certainly inconsistencies when it comes to Chelsea and how other clubs are treated. Whether it's a conspiracy or not............

[genome]

Mane's was a penalty for me. He stood on his foot, he was just a bit theatrical.

[Mr Optimist]

I have my opinions yes, just wondered what your views were?

[AthleticoSpizz]

Lots of individual incidents Xes.....and are you trying to upstage Moanio?....you sound more like him, than even he does lol.

It must be a conspiracy that a squad such as Chelseas' can only muster have 8 points from 8 games and lay 16th out of 20.

Need to look in-house maybe?

[Mr Optimist]

Mane's was a penalty for me. He stood on his foot, he was just a bit theatrical.

Agree with that. He caught him and not the ball, he went down like a ballet dancer but like it or loathe it that is what happens in the modern game. 25 years ago maybe not given but these days if the ref had had the benefit of the multiple camera angles and slow motion replays I can't see how he can not give it.

Agree with Kes that the wrestling goes on a lot still but thought that this incident was worse than the usual bitch slapping and shoving that goes on unpunished.

Thought Falcao went down in anticipation of the keeper's contact and decided to go down too early. He really looks out of sorts in our game, so much so that he can't even dive properly anymore.

[Nameless]

Love Kes accusing others of having preconceived opinions !
Of course his are preconceived by someone else which I guess makes it different.
Questioning the FA's credibility is also a bit of a classic coming from a Jose apologist.....

[Sanguine]

Thought Falcao went down in anticipation of the keeper's contact and decided to go down too early. He really looks out of sorts in our game, so much so that he can't even dive properly anymore.

Yep, there was a Lampard one like that a few seasons back, where he was already falling before he took contact from the keeper. If Falcao had stayed upright and actually let himself be fouled, he'd have got a penalty.

[Winston Smith]

Falcao was already half way to ground before anyone made any contact with him. I did like his over the top Michael Thomas celebration when the ref didnt award a pen though.

Growing a bit tired of Mourinho's continuous 'I am finding it all so hilarious' reaction he does in his seat when things aren't going well for him.

'We didnt get a pen. Ha ha ha ha ha. HA HA HA HA HA. (Looks around) HA HA HA HA THIS IS SO FUNNY!!!'

[Schards#2]

Falcao was already half way to ground before anyone made any contact with him. I did like his over the top Michael Thomas celebration when the ref didnt award a pen though.

Growing a bit tired of Mourinho's continuous 'I am finding it all so hilarious' reaction he does in his seat when things aren't going well for him.

'We didnt get a pen. Ha ha ha ha ha. HA HA HA HA HA. (Looks around) HA HA HA HA THIS IS SO FUNNY!!!'

Judging by the swathes of empty seats long before the final whistle on Saturday, I don't think many Chelsea fans are finding it hilarious.

What's happened to Chelsea? SGGW??

[Ouroboros]

I reckon the parents did it.

[No Fixed Abode]

Mane's was a penalty for me. He stood on his foot, he was just a bit theatrical.

So there was contact and he was theatrical. Falcao was theatrical and there was contact. But one was a penalty and one wasn't? OK then.

Two acts of simulation from Mane and he only got one yellow card............

[genome]

Falcao was already going down anticipating the contact.
Mane reacted to his foot being stood on, and went down.

It's not that hard m9

[No Fixed Abode]

Falcao was already going down anticipating the contact.
Mane reacted to his foot being stood on, and went down.

It's not that hard m9

But there would have been contact on Falcao. It's the intention not the contact. As was explained by the FA when Gerrard got a decision when there was no contact and dived over the player to avoid getting hit.

Another case of inconsistencies.

[Mr Optimist]

Or maybe no contact if he hadn't dived in front of the keeper like he had been shot by a sniper in the stand and stayed on his feet....

So, am I right in saying you think the Falcao one was a penalty where there was no contact prior to Falcao going down, and Mane, where there was contact made by a defender but no contact of the ball prior to him going down was not a penalty and the ref was correct in booking him for simulation?

[No Fixed Abode]

I am saying by the FA's own rules the Falcao one was a penalty.

It's not hard to work that one out.

[Mr Optimist]

So Falcao incident was a penalty in your opinion, we are getting somewhere now. The Mane incident, penalty, yes or no? Booking, yes or no?

[genome]

Falcao was already going down anticipating the contact.
Mane reacted to his foot being stood on, and went down.

It's not that hard m9

But there would have been contact on Falcao. It's the intention not the contact. As was explained by the FA when Gerrard got a decision when there was no contact and dived over the player to avoid getting hit.

Another case of inconsistencies.

So why do you think the Mane one wasn't a penalty?