The generic transfer thread

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Re: The generic transfer thread

by genome » 23 Jul 2015 15:57

Hmm, well, considering £11m for Ross McCormack and the fact JR is as close to a guaranteed 20 goal striker at this level as you're going to get, depressingly £14m sounds about the right value.

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by TBM » 23 Jul 2015 16:04

genome Hmm, well, considering £11m for Ross McCormack and the fact JR is as close to a guaranteed 20 goal striker at this level as you're going to get, depressingly £14m sounds about the right value.


Considering Arsenal signed Danny Welbeck for £16m (also Giroud for £9.6m), or Liverpool signing Daniel Sturridge for £12m......then £14m for a Championship striker is crazy

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by Pepe the Horseman » 23 Jul 2015 16:08

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by No Fixed Abode » 23 Jul 2015 16:19

Sanguine I'm so pleased we never signed Jordan Rhodes.


Yeah. TBF - Benteke is a better player.

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Re: The generic transfer thread

by Nameless » 23 Jul 2015 16:20

genome Hmm, well, considering £11m for Ross McCormack and the fact JR is as close to a guaranteed 20 goal striker at this level as you're going to get, depressingly £14m sounds about the right value.


Surely that isn't the point.
We could sign Messi for £100 million and it would probably represent the right price. But we don't have £100 million.
Boro have potentially spent £20 million just in fees here and you wonder where the cash comes from. If they are gambling on promotion then I'd say they may well be making a reasonable bet but part of FFP Was about clubs not being allowed to spend money they didn't have to chase money they might get.


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Re: The generic transfer thread

by Winston Smith » 23 Jul 2015 17:11

6ft Kerplunk LOL, my Boro supporting colleague was questioning where the money was even going to come from for the Downing deal.


Folk on the Boro forum reckon its £1M a year for 5 years.

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Re: The generic transfer thread

by TBM » 23 Jul 2015 17:13

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6ft Kerplunk LOL, my Boro supporting colleague was questioning where the money was even going to come from for the Downing deal.


Folk on the Boro forum reckon its £1M a year for 5 years.


So £5m then....

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Re: The generic transfer thread

by Nameless » 23 Jul 2015 17:40

That's his wages, the fee is extra !

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by WoodleyRoyal » 23 Jul 2015 19:07

Nameless That's his wages, the fee is extra !


um 1mill a year is about 20k pw he will be on more than that


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Re: The generic transfer thread

by Nameless » 23 Jul 2015 19:13

Even worse then, 5 million fee plus twice / three times that in wages......

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Re: The generic transfer thread

by Mr Angry » 23 Jul 2015 19:22

Mr Angry Crystal Palace want Alex McCarthy, who wants to leave after getting just 4 appearances for QPR last season; QPR believe that they have made him a much better player obviously - they are holding out for £3.5M for McCarthy having paid us £2.5M, so those 4 games were - to Tony Fernandez at least - worth £250K each.........


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by From Despair To Where? » 23 Jul 2015 19:40

genome Hmm, well, considering £11m for Ross McCormack and the fact JR is as close to a guaranteed 20 goal striker at this level as you're going to get, depressingly £14m sounds about the right value.


£14m for a Championship player I can maybe see but £14m being spent by a Championship club that's just mental. That's basically a full season's wage bill for the whole squad blown on a transfer fee for 1 player

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Re: The generic transfer thread

by Winston Smith » 23 Jul 2015 20:10

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6ft Kerplunk LOL, my Boro supporting colleague was questioning where the money was even going to come from for the Downing deal.


Folk on the Boro forum reckon its £1M a year for 5 years.


So £5m then....


Maths humblebragging ^

My point was that it is how the transfer fee has been made more affordable by spreading it evenly over 5 years


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Re: The generic transfer thread

by sputnik » 23 Jul 2015 22:12

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Not always. Doyle was % of sale


Wasn't Doyle's sell on clause bought out by Reading for peanuts a good few months before he left for Wolves, when Cork City were strapped for cash?

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Re: The generic transfer thread

by Nameless » 23 Jul 2015 22:17

In any case the difference between sell on and profit was negligible in Doyle's case.

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Re: The generic transfer thread

by Winston Smith » 24 Jul 2015 07:13

French media saying a deal is agreed for Di Maria to join PSG for €65M

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Re: The generic transfer thread

by Vision » 24 Jul 2015 08:25

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genome Hmm, well, considering £11m for Ross McCormack and the fact JR is as close to a guaranteed 20 goal striker at this level as you're going to get, depressingly £14m sounds about the right value.


Surely that isn't the point.
We could sign Messi for £100 million and it would probably represent the right price. But we don't have £100 million.
Boro have potentially spent £20 million just in fees here and you wonder where the cash comes from. If they are gambling on promotion then I'd say they may well be making a reasonable bet but part of FFP Was about clubs not being allowed to spend money they didn't have to chase money they might get.


I think that's the debate though isn't it. I'm sure Gibson does have the money, he's been at the helm for years so he's not a guy who's going to cripple them and run away. They've also been through a 2-3 year period where they've been cutting back and cutting back until they got back to a solid foundation last season. They narrowly missed out last season so are building on a position of relative strength and added to that FFP rules have been relaxed somewhat for this season I think.

They'll certainly still fall foul of the rules but I guess he sees it as a calculated risk worth taking given how close they came last season and the fact that QPR don't appear to be suffering too much for their financial dealings.

I think the intention of FFP was just as much about stopping unscrupulous owners spending a ton of a football club's money for short term gain and then buggering off and leaving them in the shit. I don't think Gibson falls into that category anymore than Madejski did for us when we were doing the same 15 years or so ago trying to get out of the 3rd tier.

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Re: The generic transfer thread

by paultheroyal » 24 Jul 2015 08:57

Selling Di Maria will weaken Man Utd. All is good.

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by Brosef Stalin » 24 Jul 2015 09:50

paultheroyal Selling Di Maria will weaken Man Utd. All is good.


he ended up being benched for half the season

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Re: The generic transfer thread

by paultheroyal » 24 Jul 2015 10:17

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paultheroyal Selling Di Maria will weaken Man Utd. All is good.


he ended up being benched for half the season


And United no better for it IMO.

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