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Re: FIFA

by Kitsondinho » 27 May 2015 16:24

"This is the World Cup of Fraud and we are issuing FIFA a red card".

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Re: FIFA

by Sutekh » 27 May 2015 16:28

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Zammo Is there any evidence that Blatter is involved in any wrongdoings at all? Everyone seems to want to take him down. What is it that he is alleged to have done? Where is the evidence?


Fair points Zammo.
In England Blatter has been held up as the person responsible for all the ills of world football and Platini is not far behind in the unpopularity stakes.
Classic Little Englander/Johnny Foreigner stuff where Blatter has had worse Press than Mugabe or any of the other corrupted African leaders-as far as I know Blatter hasn't been responsible for any deaths.
Presumably Brits will want those failures in negotiation, Prince William, Cameron and Beckham to now run FIFA because they are jolly good chaps who can be trusted...not like.............I can't type his name again as he is so evil (allegedly)


Whether you like Sepp or not, whether he's guilty of anything or not, the point is that FIFA is in a complete mess and has only got worse on his watch. Therefore him continuing would be untenable in any other professional business. But then this is FIFA and it is in a complete mess...

What we really need is the other FAs and organisations to also boycott FIFA and FIFA tournaments until such time as full accountability and visibility to all operations is seen to be in place.

The Russian and Qatari world cup final assignments should also both be suspended pending further investigations.

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Re: FIFA

by ZacNaloen » 27 May 2015 16:42

" Two Decades, Year after year, Tournament after Tournament"

So they are basically saying every FIFA and CONCACAF tournament since Atlanta is tainted with this. And obviously can't comment on other regions as not in their remit so who knows if Euros etc affected.

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Re: FIFA

by Mr Angry » 27 May 2015 16:52

Good to see how the Cayman Islands, that powerhouse of football, has been able to get so many of its officials into positions of importance in FIFA.

A lesson to us all.

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Re: FIFA

by Kitsondinho » 27 May 2015 17:30

6 of the 7 arrested this morning will fight extradition to US.....question is, who is the one prepared to go??


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Re: FIFA

by Uke » 27 May 2015 17:43

Kitsondinho 6 of the 7 arrested this morning will fight extradition to US.....question is, who is the one prepared to go??


The real question is completed with "and what are they prepared to plea bargain with???"

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Re: FIFA

by AthleticoSpizz » 27 May 2015 17:49

ZacNaloen Even if he wasn't directly involved, he oversaw this mess and does nothing to prevent it.
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It is all under HIS shift as President, like any other business or public service provider that has failed, he should fall on his and footballs porky sword.

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Re: FIFA

by Ian Royal » 27 May 2015 19:00

Lets face it, this isn't the first time either is it. Under his watch Tony Warner finally got done having been taking bribes and match fees for himself for goodness knows how long. Blatter did nothing about that or to increase transparency / fraud security at that point.

It's pretty obvious he's trying to stay in power until he dies so he can suppress what's been going on until it can't affect him. Looking good for that to fail.

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Re: FIFA

by Kitsondinho » 27 May 2015 19:08

Tony Warner? The ex-Liverpool and Millwall keeper? Or Jack Warner, ex Vice President of FIFA?


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Re: FIFA

by Ian Royal » 27 May 2015 19:14

Kitsondinho Tony Warner? The ex-Liverpool and Millwall keeper? Or Jack Warner, ex Vice President of FIFA?

Ahem. Jack.








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Nice to see Russia say they have nothing to hide about their World Cup bid. Not now they don't. They've already sent back all the loanee computers they did it on, which were destroyed quite some time ago.

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Re: FIFA

by Kitsondinho » 27 May 2015 19:16

Plot thickens further as
A) UEFA call for presidential vote to be postponed.
B) All FIFA excutives told to remain in Swizterland (including Blatter) until further notice.
C) The 7 arrested today, who weren't going to be banned at 11am......have now been banned from all football related work.

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Re: FIFA

by Royal Rother » 27 May 2015 19:22

It's one of the most frustrating things on the periphery of my life that despite everyone on the planet except for Victor Meldrew knows that Blatter is a disgusting corrupt slime ball and he has been allowed to get away with it for decades.

I liken him to Lance Armstrong, Jimmy Savile etc. but his misdeeds are far more common knowledge and accepted without question than the others.

He'll die before he gets put away.

Cnut.

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Re: FIFA

by Kitsondinho » 27 May 2015 19:31

I'm not so sure RR....I think this time he has little squirm room. He is going to be taken down.


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Re: FIFA

by AthleticoSpizz » 27 May 2015 19:32

(No St Pauli, but) I'm all for a boycott of the WC until Blatter and his fledglings are ousted.

Someone needs to do it, and maybe it will gain momentum amongst the continents

Qatar was always a wrong-un

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Re: FIFA

by Victor Meldrew » 27 May 2015 19:47

RR,
You must be getting senile.
I said nothing about Blatter not being corrupt-I was following Zammo's point that this man (mainly because we have failed to get any more World Cups) is seen here as the devil incarnate which is regrettably a typically British trait, i.e. any German or Frenchman is untrustworthy and hates the English.
This is part of a much wider issue of where we stand in the world-foreigners are not always wrong about everything and Brits always right.

If you were to be wider read I would ask you what all the other countries feel about FIFA and about Blatter in particular but as you are not so widely read I'll refrain and wait to see if these people are found to be corrupt (people on here want to hang them already with a lynch mob mentality).
Incidentally those that criticise FIFA and suggest that we break away (which was mooted after the failure to get the world cup for 2018 and 2022) can't really believe that our own FA is any better?

Governing bodies and governments around the world all have elements of corruption-I'm just not certain that FIFA is any worse than the rest.

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Re: FIFA

by Kitsondinho » 27 May 2015 19:53

VM are really suggesting that the FA is as bad as FIFA. As for the rest of the world, we are not the only ones who dislike Blatter. He has been booed at enough stadia around the world in the last 4/5 years to show this. Yes, there are probably the same number of countries where he is popular and liked, but to suggest that this is a UK witch hunt is off the mark. The US were VERY pissed off about missing out on the World Cup, which is probably what set this all in motion.

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Re: FIFA

by Royal Rother » 27 May 2015 20:08

Victor Meldrew RR,
You must be getting senile.
I said nothing about Blatter not being corrupt-I was following Zammo's point that this man (mainly because we have failed to get any more World Cups) is seen here as the devil incarnate which is regrettably a typically British trait, i.e. any German or Frenchman is untrustworthy and hates the English.
This is part of a much wider issue of where we stand in the world-foreigners are not always wrong about everything and Brits always right.

If you were to be wider read I would ask you what all the other countries feel about FIFA and about Blatter in particular but as you are not so widely read I'll refrain and wait to see if these people are found to be corrupt (people on here want to hang them already with a lynch mob mentality).
Incidentally those that criticise FIFA and suggest that we break away (which was mooted after the failure to get the world cup for 2018 and 2022) can't really believe that our own FA is any better?

Governing bodies and governments around the world all have elements of corruption-I'm just not certain that FIFA is any worse than the rest.


Christ - give me that minute back please.

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Re: FIFA

by Tails » 27 May 2015 20:38

Victor Meldrew RR,
You must be getting senile.
I said nothing about Blatter not being corrupt-I was following Zammo's point that this man (mainly because we have failed to get any more World Cups) is seen here as the devil incarnate which is regrettably a typically British trait, i.e. any German or Frenchman is untrustworthy and hates the English.
This is part of a much wider issue of where we stand in the world-foreigners are not always wrong about everything and Brits always right.

If you were to be wider read I would ask you what all the other countries feel about FIFA and about Blatter in particular but as you are not so widely read I'll refrain and wait to see if these people are found to be corrupt (people on here want to hang them already with a lynch mob mentality).
Incidentally those that criticise FIFA and suggest that we break away (which was mooted after the failure to get the world cup for 2018 and 2022) can't really believe that our own FA is any better?

Governing bodies and governments around the world all have elements of corruption-I'm just not certain that FIFA is any worse than the rest.


Is your contention regarding where we stand with 'world-foreigners' associated just with football?

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Re: FIFA

by Tails » 27 May 2015 20:42

Victor Meldrew
Zammo Is there any evidence that Blatter is involved in any wrongdoings at all? Everyone seems to want to take him down. What is it that he is alleged to have done? Where is the evidence?


Fair points Zammo.
In England Blatter has been held up as the person responsible for all the ills of world football and Platini is not far behind in the unpopularity stakes.
Classic Little Englander/Johnny Foreigner stuff where Blatter has had worse Press than Mugabe or any of the other corrupted African leaders-as far as I know Blatter hasn't been responsible for any deaths.
Presumably Brits will want those failures in negotiation, Prince William, Cameron and Beckham to now run FIFA because they are jolly good chaps who can be trusted...not like.............I can't type his name again as he is so evil (allegedly)



Handed a £342 million ticketing and hospitality contract in 2007 to a company in which his nephew had/has a minority stake.

In 2002, Blatter was accused of paying a FIFA referee $25,000 and promising him $25,000 more, in return for information on a Somali soccer official, Farah Addo – who had himself accused Blatter of bribery in his first election bid.

Blatter didn’t deny the payments but explained them by saying: ‘He said to me with tears in his eyes that he was a poor devil and had nothing left. ‘So I gave him $25,000 of my own money. I’m too good a person…’

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Re: FIFA

by ZacNaloen » 27 May 2015 20:53

Around the world it's not the people he is popular with but the officials. In light of the allegations 're: every competition for the last two decades being corrupt as oxf*rd it really puts into perspective the fact Germany, France etc haven't fussed as much as the English fa. They've hosted the world cup and Their officials have benefitted. allegedly.

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