IS THIS SITE BEING RUN BY THE POLITBURO?

[OldBiscuit]

What is happening on this site? Who is controlling it and who is pulling the plug on Free Speech?

I post a legitamate concern about the behaviour of our Stewards last night , detailing the disgraceful actions of some of our stewards, and now it has been removed!

Why has this been removed? Are the people that removed it from the Politburo? Why has my right to free speech been removed?

This is how populations are manipulated politically with Autocratic organisations only allowing what suits them. This is how Hitlers Nazi Party grew in power.

But please whoever the weak minded individual was that removed it, please be aware that 3,000 people had read it before it was removed, and please don't think that this will go away. Also, if you ban me from this site, I just reappear with a new name and e-mail address.

[paultheroyal]

In before the delete

[OldBiscuit]

In before the delete

Thanks for support Paul.

[Jagermesiter1871]

What was your post about?


INB4 CENSORY DELETION

[Cureton's Volley]

The stewards were behaving in an inappropriate manner again. Standard.

[OldBiscuit]

What was your post about?


INB4 CENSORY DELETION

About the Steward that was wrestling a young teenage boy to the ground in front of the North Stand when a frightened young boy of about 7 attacked the Steward who then backed off. The younger boy was obviously the brother to the older boy who was quite distressed in seeing his big brother being thrown about by a grown man.

[Vicky Pollard]

Attempting to nail to the ground the first individual to run on the pitch- acceptable.

Attempting to nail individuals to the ground when 3,000 are already on the pitch behind you- not acceptable.

[Cureton's Volley]

Presumably they took it down to avoid legal challenge, but even on the bbc recording you can see him tackling kids well after the horse had bolted so to speak... they can't censor facts

[RoyalBlue]

Presumably they took it down to avoid legal challenge, but even on the bbc recording you can see him tackling kids well after the horse had bolted so to speak... they can't censor facts

Since OB didn't name any steward or in any other way identify an individual, I suspect they were being over cautious as the chances of any legal action being successful would be extremely small. Who would the aggrieved party be? And would the club really want the disastrous PR that would come were they to try to take legal action against HNA?

[Dunker]

Attempting to nail to the ground the first individual to run on the pitch- acceptable.

Attempting to nail individuals to the ground when 3,000 are already on the pitch behind you- not acceptable.

[Dunker]

Attempting to nail to the ground the first individual to run on the pitch- acceptable.

Attempting to nail individuals to the ground when 3,000 are already on the pitch behind you- not acceptable.

+1


Thought it pitch invasion pain in a**e as our kids wanted to cheer the team round but once you've allowed a bunch of teenagers get on there's a danger in someone getting hurt trying to stop the 100th ... Thought the stewards got better training, obviously not.

[Nameless]

Pretty impressive over reaction to invoke both the Nazis and the Soviets just because the mods tidied up a post making a point that had already been made many times.....

As an aside the stewards involved would have been agency staff hired in for the day.. Whilst the club are always going to be responsible for their actions it's pretty tough to control every individual when they've only turned up a few hours ago. I suspect they might look at the agency they use. They used to use an agency called Grren Force or something who were excellent, did loads of big events . No idea who they use now but looked to me that the pitch side stewards at the North end were a little inexperienced,
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[Pepe the Horseman]

I reported some posts for homophobia yesterday, and they still seem to be around. Seems the mods are happy to sit by and watch the gays get attacked, but won't tolerate people exposing the corrupt stewards.

[tidus_mi2]

Massive over-reaction and error in judgement by the stewards who were trying to tackle fans to the ground once too many had got onto the pitch but do we really have the make out like the pitch invaders are all sweet little victims? You say the 7 year old was scared and looking out for an older brother, he could equally have been a future chav who just wanted to hit someone and get away with it. Not saying he is but you could really infer his actions either way.

[M Brook]

Massive over-reaction and error in judgement by the stewards who were trying to tackle fans to the ground once too many had got onto the pitch but do we really have the make out like the pitch invaders are all sweet little victims? You say the 7 year old was scared and looking out for an older brother, he could equally have been a future chav who just wanted to hit someone and get away with it. Not saying he is but you could really infer his actions either way.

If the incident that OB is referring to happened in front of the North Stand then I also witnessed it. One of the kids (more like 10/11 than 7) dropped his phone in the process. The steward was just trying to keep them off the pitch. There was no wrestling to the ground rather both parties slipped over. The bottom line is the kids were in the wrong not the steward. It beggars belief that people can come on here and defend these kids. If it had been a copper who had told them to go back and tried to stop them getting on to the pitch, would they still be defended. Whether you like it or not, when you come to a football match at the MadStad, there will be stewards there and you have to respect them and their authority. If you can't, don't come. Regardless of whether anyone thinks a pitch invasion was justified, the club had clearly asked people to stay in their seats. It was announced on the tannoy and it was on the big screen. The vast majority of us respected that and stayed off the pitch. These kids did not. They were in the wrong - end of story.

Some folk clearly have a problem with authority.

[Pepe the Horseman]

I reported some posts for homophobia yesterday, and they still seem to be around. Seems the mods are happy to sit by and watch the gays get attacked, but won't tolerate people exposing the corrupt stewards.

I've been notified that my complaint has been handled by a moderator, yet the posts and the posters are still at large.

[LWJ]

I reported some posts for homophobia yesterday, and they still seem to be around. Seems the mods are happy to sit by and watch the gays get attacked, but won't tolerate people exposing the corrupt stewards.

I've been notified that my complaint has been handled by a moderator, yet the posts and the posters are still at large.

[leon]

I reported some posts for homophobia yesterday, and they still seem to be around. Seems the mods are happy to sit by and watch the gays get attacked, but won't tolerate people exposing the corrupt stewards.

I've been notified that my complaint has been handled by a moderator, yet the posts and the posters are still at large.

Go Harvey Milk!

[Norfolk Royal]

Massive over-reaction and error in judgement by the stewards who were trying to tackle fans to the ground once too many had got onto the pitch but do we really have the make out like the pitch invaders are all sweet little victims? You say the 7 year old was scared and looking out for an older brother, he could equally have been a future chav who just wanted to hit someone and get away with it. Not saying he is but you could really infer his actions either way.

If the incident that OB is referring to happened in front of the North Stand then I also witnessed it. One of the kids (more like 10/11 than 7) dropped his phone in the process. The steward was just trying to keep them off the pitch. There was no wrestling to the ground rather both parties slipped over. The bottom line is the kids were in the wrong not the steward. It beggars belief that people can come on here and defend these kids. If it had been a copper who had told them to go back and tried to stop them getting on to the pitch, would they still be defended. Whether you like it or not, when you come to a football match at the MadStad, there will be stewards there and you have to respect them and their authority. If you can't, don't come. Regardless of whether anyone thinks a pitch invasion was justified, the club had clearly asked people to stay in their seats. It was announced on the tannoy and it was on the big screen. The vast majority of us respected that and stayed off the pitch. These kids did not. They were in the wrong - end of story.

Some folk clearly have a problem with authority.

The original posts I read about this seemed to suggest the kid was beaten to a pulp and thrashed to within an inch of his life. Your view of it seems somewhat different.

[OldBiscuit]

Massive over-reaction and error in judgement by the stewards who were trying to tackle fans to the ground once too many had got onto the pitch but do we really have the make out like the pitch invaders are all sweet little victims? You say the 7 year old was scared and looking out for an older brother, he could equally have been a future chav who just wanted to hit someone and get away with it. Not saying he is but you could really infer his actions either way.

If the incident that OB is referring to happened in front of the North Stand then I also witnessed it. One of the kids (more like 10/11 than 7) dropped his phone in the process. The steward was just trying to keep them off the pitch. There was no wrestling to the ground rather both parties slipped over. The bottom line is the kids were in the wrong not the steward. It beggars belief that people can come on here and defend these kids. If it had been a copper who had told them to go back and tried to stop them getting on to the pitch, would they still be defended. Whether you like it or not, when you come to a football match at the MadStad, there will be stewards there and you have to respect them and their authority. If you can't, don't come. Regardless of whether anyone thinks a pitch invasion was justified, the club had clearly asked people to stay in their seats. It was announced on the tannoy and it was on the big screen. The vast majority of us respected that and stayed off the pitch. These kids did not. They were in the wrong - end of story.

Some folk clearly have a problem with authority.

People are entitled to question genuine authority. If you remember it was the Authorities to blame for the Hilsborough tragedy, and it was people like MB that chose to look the other way causing the truth to be withheld for 25 years.
There most certainly WAS wrestling to the ground, and in one case near the touch line 2 stewards picked on 1 youth continually trying to trip him to the ground as if they were intending to handcuff him,
I agree that the youngsters should not have been on the pitch, but they were. It does not give in-adequates the excuse to take liberties for their own pleasure.

I must point out that I did not, and had no intention of going on the pitch personally, and I have no problems with rules or authorities providing that they are legitamate. But the invasion was always going to happen, the Club knew it, the players knew it and the Fans all knew it, and really, was there really any harm done. The players can always take the plaudits from the Grandstand as they did at the end of the 2006 season.

It is also worth remembering that should our ancestors have been happy to be 'yes Sir! No Sir' all their lives and never challenge authority then we would all still be slaves to the Elite and the Landowning Barons and living miserable lives.