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Re: If not Adkins then who?

by Big Ern » 05 Jan 2014 01:33

If Adkins was to to leave/get sacked, then I would think the most realistic and best option would be Steven Pressley from Coventry. He seems to have done a sterling job on a shoestring budget, however it has been suggested he recently turned down Millwall so not sure he would move to us especially with the turmoil at the club at present Apart from that, we would probably be looking at a league 2 manager or an out of work journey man manager like Michael Appleton or at a stretch Ian Holloway. Holloway would be entertaining off the field anyway, however I would not see him as a step in the right direction

Best of keeping what we have

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Re: If not Adkins then who?

by P!ssed Off » 05 Jan 2014 01:38

Big Ern If Adkins was to to leave/get sacked, then I would think the most realistic and best option would be Steven Pressley from Coventry. He seems to have done a sterling job on a shoestring budget, however it has been suggested he recently turned down Millwall so not sure he would move to us especially with the turmoil at the club at present Apart from that, we would probably be looking at a league 2 manager or an out of work journey man manager like Michael Appleton or at a stretch Ian Holloway. Holloway would be entertaining off the field anyway, however I would not see him as a step in the right direction

Best of keeping what we have


Googled Steven Pressley.
Top result:
Steven Pressley reassures Coventry City fans: 'I'm not going anywhere': 1 day ago
That's put that to bed.

On a serious note: Let's be honest, over the last 2 seasons, one of Reading's only decent passing performance across 90 minutes came against Man Utd away.
Dolan was in charge that day, why not give him a go?

To those that think Dolan might be a step backwards I point to this 7 game spell from last season:

Game 1:
Possession: 40%
Pass Success: 70%
Short Passes: 229
Average Pass Streak: 3

Game 2:
Possession: 30%
Pass Success: 63%
Short Passes: 224
Average Pass Streak: 3

Game 3:
Possession: 41%
Pass Success: 64%
Short Passes: 246
Average Pass Streak: 3

Game 4:
Possession: 43%
Pass Success: 74%
Short Passes: 293
Average Pass Streak: 4

Game 5:
Possession: 30%
Pass Success: 71%
Short Passes: 237
Average Pass Streak: 3

Game 6:
Possession: 39%
Pass Success: 56%
Short Passes: 251
Average Pass Streak: 3

Game 7:
Possession: 40%
Pass Success: 65%
Short Passes: 258
Average Pass Streak: 3

For those wondering, of this 7 game streak, Dolan was in charge of Game 4.
The game, of the 7, where we had the greatest amount of possession, the best passing success, the most short passes, and the longest average pass streak.
I guess he got lucky in that his particular game was Man Utd away, and we all know how shit Man Utd are... /s

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Re: Replace NA with who?

by harry » 05 Jan 2014 12:27

Personally I'd stick with Nadkins. Same as I'd have stuck with McDermott.

The thought of ending up with the likes of Colin or Fat Sam or Di Canio fears me with dread.

At the point we do need a new man is it too early to add Brynjar to the list? Just think of the goal celebs he would bring from Stjarnan.

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Re: Replace NA with who?

by blueroyals » 05 Jan 2014 13:08

Reminds me of Brendan Rogers. Who is now boss at Liverpool who were top of the best league in the world a couple of weeks ago. In retrospect do we still really think that he didn't know what he was doing?

Now we've got a more qualified manager with more promotions and more PL experience in the same situation, and the fans want the club to make the same mistake again? He isn't a miracle worker. He's inherited a set of players who have played hoof ball for their entire careers and we expect him to take them to the other extreme in 8 months? Not going to happen.

We have to give him at least 2 seasons (4 transfer windows) to clear out the deadwood (we still have the likes of Gorkss, Leigertwood and Roberts on our books ffs) and bring in players who are comfortable with passing the ball and have any amount of vision or creativity.

If we get rid of him we'll A) have to pay off his contract which will cost us at least £1m and either get B) a hoof merchant or C) another manager who wants us to play passing football and we'll be in the same situation again. Who would want to come to this club currently? We have an AWOL owner and if you dare play passing football and fail you'll be boo-ed off the pitch and sacked like the 2 previous managers who tried to do it. Hoof ball merchant it is then.

If you want him sacked now is the time to voice it. When the new owners come in they'll want to get on the fan's side. If we call for his head he'll go without a doubt. The fact that nobody joined in with the 3-4 people chanting "Adkins out" yesterday tells me that the majority want him to stay.

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Re: Replace NA with who?

by sandman » 05 Jan 2014 13:23

He didn't know what he was doing at Reading, that was masterstroke signing of Suarez btw. Why can't people get it into their heads that just because someone can be successful elsewhere it doesn't mean they fit in at another club. Just because Adkins has a good cv doesn't mean he is right for this club.


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Re: Replace NA with who?

by percy_freeman » 05 Jan 2014 13:25

blueroyals
We have to give him at least 2 seasons (4 transfer windows) to clear out the deadwood (we still have the likes of Gorkss, Leigertwood and Roberts on our books ffs) and bring in players who are comfortable with passing the ball and have any amount of vision or creativity.

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Is that the same Gorkss who seems to be 1st on the team sheet week in, week out? As Adkins stated himself, it's my job to get the best out of my players. If I don't do my job I won't have one. Steve Clarke is my choice.

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Re: Replace NA with who?

by Uke » 05 Jan 2014 13:29

I would prefer that Adkins gets the time and support to do a Clough

Build a decent team, consolidate and we then eventually push on either with or without him

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Re: Replace NA with who?

by Avon Royal » 05 Jan 2014 15:00

sandman He didn't know what he was doing at Reading, that was masterstroke signing of Suarez btw. Why can't people get it into their heads that just because someone can be successful elsewhere it doesn't mean they fit in at another club. Just because Adkins has a good cv doesn't mean he is right for this club.


So what is it about Reading FC that you think makes it a bad fit for progressive managers like Rodgers and Adkins?

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Re: Replace NA with who?

by SHORT AND CURLY » 05 Jan 2014 15:06

Whats progressive about going backwards?


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Re: Replace NA with who?

by Agent Balti » 05 Jan 2014 15:08

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We have to give him at least 2 seasons (4 transfer windows) to clear out the deadwood (we still have the likes of Gorkss, Leigertwood and Roberts on our books ffs) and bring in players who are comfortable with passing the ball and have any amount of vision or creativity.

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Is that the same Gorkss who seems to be 1st on the team sheet week in, week out?


Bit of an easy target considering he is our only fit centre half other than Pearce. We are hardly blessed in central defence.

Either way, the subject is totally moot until we have an owner that actually feels a decision needs to be made about whoever the manager should be. That is not likely for the foreseeable future, so Adkins it is.

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Re: Replace NA with who?

by LoyalRoyalFan » 05 Jan 2014 15:10

Gary Johnson.

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Re: Replace NA with who?

by Uke » 05 Jan 2014 15:13

SHORT AND CURLY Whats progressive about going backwards?


But you can go backwards instantly, progression takes too long

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Re: Replace NA with who?

by Avon Royal » 05 Jan 2014 15:16

SHORT AND CURLY Whats progressive about going backwards?


That's like asking why you start building a skyscraper by digging downwards. :roll:


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Re: Replace NA with who?

by Ginger Ninjas » 05 Jan 2014 15:23

blueroyals Reminds me of Brendan Rogers. Who is now boss at Liverpool who were top of the best league in the world a couple of weeks ago. In retrospect do we still really think that he didn't know what he was doing?

Now we've got a more qualified manager with more promotions and more PL experience in the same situation, and the fans want the club to make the same mistake again? He isn't a miracle worker. He's inherited a set of players who have played hoof ball for their entire careers and we expect him to take them to the other extreme in 8 months? Not going to happen.

We have to give him at least 2 seasons (4 transfer windows) to clear out the deadwood (we still have the likes of Gorkss, Leigertwood and Roberts on our books ffs) and bring in players who are comfortable with passing the ball and have any amount of vision or creativity.

If we get rid of him we'll A) have to pay off his contract which will cost us at least £1m and either get B) a hoof merchant or C) another manager who wants us to play passing football and we'll be in the same situation again. Who would want to come to this club currently? We have an AWOL owner and if you dare play passing football and fail you'll be boo-ed off the pitch and sacked like the 2 previous managers who tried to do it. Hoof ball merchant it is then.

If you want him sacked now is the time to voice it. When the new owners come in they'll want to get on the fan's side. If we call for his head he'll go without a doubt. The fact that nobody joined in with the 3-4 people chanting "Adkins out" yesterday tells me that the majority want him to stay.


Great post. Few decent suggestions on this thread (Clarke, Pressley) but no guarantee they'd bring anything more than Adkins.

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Re: Replace NA with who?

by Cureton's Volley » 05 Jan 2014 15:26

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sandman He didn't know what he was doing at Reading, that was masterstroke signing of Suarez btw. Why can't people get it into their heads that just because someone can be successful elsewhere it doesn't mean they fit in at another club. Just because Adkins has a good cv doesn't mean he is right for this club.


So what is it about Reading FC that you think makes it a bad fit for progressive managers like Rodgers and Adkins?


Thier style is reliant on development and retention of technically gifted players, the likes of which we sell for a profit once they come of age.

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Re: Replace NA with who?

by CountryRoyal » 05 Jan 2014 15:29

Uke
SHORT AND CURLY Whats progressive about going backwards?


But you can go backwards instantly, progression takes too long


To build something new you have to knock the old down. Rome wasn't built in a day but we will get there. Yes we might get relegated, yes we might spend some time being mid table, yes we might have to put up with insipid performances whilst the entire footballing philosophy of the club is being changed, but these were all consequences that the majority of fans said they would accept and understand if it meant more success in the future. Now everybody is allowing impatience/boredom/anger get the better of them and exacerbate their shortsightedness.

Losing 6-0 to Peterborough was bad. Losing 5-2 to Sheffield Wednesday was bad. The overall team performances have been bad. However the biggest failure of this season would be to sack Nigel Adkins in an almost identical repeat of Rodgers' infamous time here. That would be, imho, totally unforgivable... we have to learn from our mistakes otherwise whats the bloody point?

This club needs continuity both on and off the field, if that means languishing in leagues other then the prem for some time than so be it, providing it gives us a better platform to sustain tangible success and stability.

Besides, why is everybody gagging to get back into the prem... pretty sure last year everyone was like "this is crap, can't wait to get back into the championship" :? :lol:

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Re: Replace NA with who?

by Avon Royal » 05 Jan 2014 15:34

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sandman He didn't know what he was doing at Reading, that was masterstroke signing of Suarez btw. Why can't people get it into their heads that just because someone can be successful elsewhere it doesn't mean they fit in at another club. Just because Adkins has a good cv doesn't mean he is right for this club.


So what is it about Reading FC that you think makes it a bad fit for progressive managers like Rodgers and Adkins?


Thier style is reliant on development and retention of technically gifted players, the likes of which we sell for a profit once they come of age.


Then surely that is what we need to fix if we want to progress, rather than simply opting for a lowest common denominator manager.

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Re: Replace NA with who?

by Cureton's Volley » 05 Jan 2014 15:48

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So what is it about Reading FC that you think makes it a bad fit for progressive managers like Rodgers and Adkins?


Thier style is reliant on development and retention of technically gifted players, the likes of which we sell for a profit once they come of age.


Then surely that is what we need to fix if we want to progress, rather than simply opting for a lowest common denominator manager.


I agree with the sentiment, but unfortunately finding a rich benefactor is not something that easy to fix, whereas choosing tactics to reflect our strengths and weaknesses is simply a matter of Nigel swallowing his pride.

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Re: Replace NA with who?

by RoyalBlue » 05 Jan 2014 16:37

For those who hanker after the old days:


Let's hope Mcdermott uses this in the dressing room before each game as the catalyst to spur this bloody team on .. 'Worst moment in football'he said walking over to this .. 'It was expected'.. What the hell was said at half time then .. We got worse !! Well done Dale well deserved 


Written by a Leeds fan after yesterday's game but I can recall similar things being said at certain stages during his time here.

He's a proven and very good manager so the moral of the story is that even good managers can't be expected to be successful in half a season.

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Re: Replace NA with who?

by MmmMonsterMunch » 05 Jan 2014 16:54

RoyalBlue For those who hanker after the old days:


Let's hope Mcdermott uses this in the dressing room before each game as the catalyst to spur this bloody team on .. 'Worst moment in football'he said walking over to this .. 'It was expected'.. What the hell was said at half time then .. We got worse !! Well done Dale well deserved 


Written by a Leeds fan after yesterday's game but I can recall similar things being said at certain stages during his time here.

He's a proven and very good manager so the moral of the story is that even good managers can't be expected to be successful in half a season.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=who6LvvaqFY

Leeds fans at the final whistle yesterday...

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