The Non - League thread

[Royalist]

That sounds great. I know the club has for quite a while been trying to get the army more involved hopefully this kick starts it Apparently the club cannot play games against the army sides as they are not FA registered or something along those lines? Such a shame as surely that would get down quite a crowd!

Like the new look site too although the automatic playing video might get annoying!

Draw for the FA Cup 4th qual is out but cannot find a place with it all in one easy to share link right now? Would of thought the fa website would have it as soon as it was done? If only they had their own FOC!

[Four Of Clubs]

Draw for the FA Cup 4th qual is out but cannot find a place with it all in one easy to share link right now? Would of thought the fa website would have it as soon as it was done? If only they had their own FOC!

tut tut - you'll 'ave the 'of' vs 'have' Stasi after you again!

...anyways - shamelessly 'filched' from Non-League Matters here's the 4Q draw:

- the FA Site usually puts all the draws and dates of replays etc etc out on a Bulletin in PDF format; which though easier to read than their website's main menus, is a bit of a pain waiting for them to get in gear and load it properly.

Expect there may be a few Fri/Sun ties too - as anyone familiar with Nailsworth will appreciate ... looking below!

FA Cup 4Q - ties to be played w/e 26th Oct

North Section
Macclesfield Town v Vauxhall Motors
Stamford v Hednesford Town or West Auckland Town
Grimsby Town v Rushall Olympic
Worcester City or Rugby Town v Lincoln City
Bradford Park Avenue v Kidderminster Harriers
Wrexham v Hyde
Workington v Stourbridge
Southport v Marske United
Colwyn Bay v Corby Town
Tamworth v Solihull Moors
Nuneaton Town v FC Halifax Town
North Ferriby United v Alfreton Town
Brackley Town v Barrow
Chester v Gateshead

Southern Section
Hemel Hempstead Town v Sutton United
AFC Hornchurch v Hereford United
Ebbsfleet United v Dartford
Barnet v Concord Rangers
Chatham Town v St Albans City
Dover Athletic v Oxford City
Boreham Wood v Heybridge Swifts
Bath City v Salisbury City
Yate Town or Gloucester City v Hampton & Richmond Borough
Weymouth v Braintree Town
Forest Green Rovers v Bishop's Stortford
Needham Market v Cambridge United
Biggleswade Town v Canvey Island
Shortwood United v Aldershot Town
Woking v Luton Town
Brislington v Welling United
Hartley Wintney or Clevedon Town v Grays Athletic or Daventry Town
Staines Town v Poole Town

[tmesis]

With the grounds only being a few hundred yards apart, I imagine Forest Green Rovers v Bishop's Stortford and Shortwood United v Aldershot Town will not both kick off at 3pm on the Saturday.

Any other obvious clashes?

[paultheroyal]

Do not underestimate this!

The little village of Hartley Wintney have gone from 2:0 and 3:1 down away to Clevedon to win and now one win away from first round proper. Grays or Daventry at home I believe.

Love them to get Wolves at home lol.

[Four Of Clubs]

Do not underestimate this!

The little village of Hartley Wintney have gone from 2:0 and 3:1 down away to Clevedon to win and now one win away from first round proper. Grays or Daventry at home I believe.

Love them to get Wolves at home lol.

Indeed as I said way above somewhere, I've seen them win both their previous replays this season and they are scarily good going forward down at this level - I'm not surprised they've caused two big upsets away from home vs sides a STEP above them; scoring 9 goals in the process. Winner tonight a pen - in 6th minute of injury time.

Grays v Daventry match was postponed from yesterday; now to be played on Wed evening - Daventry won their first 7 league games this season so Grays might prove an easier path to 1st Round proper - is indeed the furthest 'The Row' have ever got in the FA Cup.

... expect if they did draw someone 'big' they might consider switching it to the Camrose or Cherrywood Rd - not sure what the 'rules' are in such circs - if indeed there are any?
Was also at their 'record crowd' (officially close to 1400) many years ago when AFC Wimbledon came to town. Has to be said The Memorial Ground is not among the larger one's in the CCL - pretty similar in layout to Sandhurst Town - indeed their surrounds are even tighter in to the pitchside.

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Elsewhere: the Southern League Cup game between Hungerford and Diddy tonight ended 3-1 with the Crusaders scoring on 89' & 92'.

Binfield edged past Highmoor/IBIS 2-1 at Palmer Pk in the Berks/Bucks Trophy - not sure if this was delayed or in ET, as the lights were still blazing away well after 10 as we drove back from Bracknell?

[paultheroyal]

It literally is like playing on a council pitch with a barrier around it.

Basingstoke were tweeting support for HW tonight so I am not surprised at your suggestion. Town folk would come out to support them, me included.

[biff]

Do not underestimate this!

The little village of Hartley Wintney have gone from 2:0 and 3:1 down away to Clevedon to win and now one win away from first round proper. Grays or Daventry at home I believe.

Love them to get Wolves at home lol.

play 5 aside vs sam argent the double goalscorer. Released by Saints a while back but has always been a cut above. Forza Hartley!

[Royal Rother]

Fantastic from HW.

Windsor beat them 3-0 in 2nd half of our recent game against them.

Shame we lost the 1st half 5-0.

[biff]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151948399123545

unbridled joy

[The Real Sandhurst Royal]

Players from Brockenhurst and Andover Town set a new record after their Hampshire Senior Cup match finished 0-0 after extra time.

They scored 29 consecutive penalties in a shoot-out.

[Royalist]

for any reading this who want to get into going to random games Brockenhurst is easily reached on the train a decent pub near the station and a pretty little village. Thinking of doing a few more grounds when i have the time. Not as list ticking like some do but more for the days out and that'll be one of the first i do again.

After Windsor U18 result last night against Slough, the big game from last night yeah?!?, it got me thinking why don't the FA introduce a young player incentive like the ECB do in cricket in all the leagues they run from the Championship down to non league? Would mean less journeyman pay day types in a side and would help get clubs on a more realistic path.

[floyd__streete]

Nice work HW. I know the village well as had relatives living there for many years, can't picture where the ground would be though. On the outskirts, one assumes?

Grays are not a patch on the strong Conference outfit of the mid-00s, currently in Ryman Prem which is an equivalent one-divisional step up from the vanquished 3Q opposition, Clevedon. Daventry would be the preferred opposition, coming from the United Counties League which is the South Midlands equivalent to HW and Windsor's (Combined Counties) League. Be fantastic to see HW get through.....to no doubt draw something like Gateshead away in Round 1

Talking earlier of Clevedon gives me the spurious opportunity to say that my local team - North Leigh - currently top the Southern League Division 1 South & West

[Christof]

Daventry would be the preferred opposition, coming from the United Counties League which is the South Midlands equivalent to HW and Windsor's (Combined Counties) League. Be fantastic to see HW get through.....to no doubt draw something like Gateshead away in Round 1

Not sure about that - think it's Daventry Town, currently top of Southern D1 Central i.e. STEP04 - they've won 8 and only lost 1 league game so far, so would be a very tough proposition for HW - best of luck to them whoever they end up with...

[Royal Rother]

Nice work HW. I know the village well as had relatives living there for many years, can't picture where the ground would be though. On the outskirts, one assumes?

Well, not in the centre but only about 100 yards south of the A30.

[floyd__streete]

Daventry would be the preferred opposition, coming from the United Counties League which is the South Midlands equivalent to HW and Windsor's (Combined Counties) League. Be fantastic to see HW get through.....to no doubt draw something like Gateshead away in Round 1

Not sure about that - think it's Daventry Town, currently top of Southern D1 Central i.e. STEP04 - they've won 8 and only lost 1 league game so far, so would be a very tough proposition for HW - best of luck to them whoever they end up with...

Well, aren't I quite the c*nt - I was researching Daventry United

[Four Of Clubs]

... some news filtering through about the 4th Qualifying Round ties w/e 26th Oct.

FGR & Shortwood will both KO at 15:00 on the Sat PM - with the Shots game at the Southern League side being pay on the day.

.... presumably they don't think the presence of Bps Stortford fans up the hill at Forest Gn is a big stewarding/policing issue.

Anyone of our N.Hants 'buddies' thinking of travelling to Shortwood its quite an approach to Meadowbank (well named) up a very steep narrow hill.

FGR's ground is clearly visible up even higher on top of the next hill!

HW are having a think about their ticketing - presumably neither Grays nor Daventry have a significantly large away following so the crowd is just as likely to be swelled by the 'novelty-seekers' - they ought to be able to cater for that size of crowd at Memorial - its the NEXT round (if they manage to get there AND get a home draw of course) which could prove a challenge to their venue?

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last nights games - away from 'Woy's Wooney-led Wonders' (yeah and I know 'Stevie Me' was wearing the armband but that doesn't alliterate as well )

Bracknell caused an upset in the Hellenic Premier - winning 2-0 H vs Flackwell - apparently had a new Keeper who performed very well - but the whole team put in a very good shift from what I've read.

Farnham bt league leaders S.Park 1-0 who stay top cos Epsom & Ewell dropped more points H v RPV; Ash lost 1-2 v Camberley.

Frimley Gn continue to impress cantering to a 4-1 win at Cove and are up to 4th
- I was there - the home side have L4 and D1 at home - goodness knows how they've banged in 6 away at both S.Park and Bedfont Sp - actually have won 4 in a row away scoring 18 goals in the process - last night they were dreadfully dozy at the back and not much better coming forward even though they had the majority of possession.
odd H/T experience - crowd, such as it was, filtered noisily into the clubhouse, where they were holding some kind of Bikers meeting - few people got some seriously nasty looks when ordering drinks at the bar or just chatting - didn't help that at this point Wooney struck for 1-0 - cue loud howls of joy which somewhat disrupted the leather-clad function for quite a while afterwards - most unfortunate they were trying to raise funding for a seriously ill little girl and reading out a very poignant letter as the Cove fans bit their tongues at what was happening at Wembley on the screen.!

Other matches last night were League or Floodlit Cup ties - in the latter Ascot slumped out unexpectedly losing 0-1 H v Henley from Div One; Milton bt Burnham Res 5-0 ; Wantage eased past Div One Malmesbury 10-1 and in the Challenge Cup Maidenhead Reserves got the better of Holyport 5-4 @ York Rd.

In the Southern League Cup (Red Insure): Thatcham L 0-3 H v Beaconsfield; Sluff won by the same score at Chertsey; Marlow bt Fleet 4-0 whilst Egham hammered Guildford 6-1.

Unsurprisingly only Merthyr got a crowd in three figures - I doubt the ties are drawn out of a hat -quite understandably they look as if they are merely pre-set by location - there are a suspiciously high number of very close match-ups in the first round of this competition.

[Four Of Clubs]

... missed Edit Window - quick update - tonight's Cup scores

FA 3Q Grays Athletic 0-4 Daventry Town - so Daventry come to Hartley Wintney on Sat 26th in Fourth Qualifying Round.

FA 3Q Replay Gloucester City 7-0 Yate Town - Gloucester now host the 'Beavers' on 26/10

Southern League - League Cup

AFC Hayes 0-4 Burnham
Chalfont St P 1-1 Godalming - Away win 4-3 pens
Chesham 5-0 Potters Bar
Swindon Supermarine 3-0 Nor Lye

[Terminal Boardom]

CCL Premier is wide open this season. Both Hartley Wintney and Hanworth Villa have only lost one game thus far and have games in hand. Last season, 6 defeats = champions and the year before, 5 was the magic number. Considering everyone else has already lost at least 3 including South Park and Epsom, anything can happen.

[Four Of Clubs]

Tomorrow's NL matches - Its a round of Trophy & Vase matches but sadly no ties scheduled for Fri/Sun - apart from

Cray Valley (PM) v AFC Croydon Athletic - tonight in the Vase.

(Northern/Midland sections on thefa.com)

SATURDAY 19 OCTOBER 2013
The FA Carlsberg Trophy – 1st Rd Qual
30 Eastbourne Town v East Thurrock United
31 Witham Town v St Albans City
32 Whitstable Town v Potters Bar Town
33 Lewes v Leatherhead
34 Arlesey Town v Waltham Abbey
35 Cheshunt v Three Bridges
36 Thamesmead Town v Metropolitan Police
37 AFC Sudbury v Crawley Down Gatwick
38 Wingate & Finchley v Hitchin Town
39 Hastings United v Horsham
40 Hampton & Richmond Borough v Bedford Town
41 Folkestone Invicta v Kingstonian
42 Leiston v Wealdstone
43 North Greenford United v Aylesbury
44 Dunstable Town v Peacehaven & Telscombe
45 Cray Wanderers v Hendon
46 Chatham Town v AFC Hayes
47 Wroxham v Margate
48 Biggleswade Town v Chesham United
49 Grays Athletic v Herne Bay
50 Guernsey v Billericay Town (1.00)
51 Bury Town v Dereham Town
52 Heybridge Swifts v Canvey Island
53 Burnham Ramblers v Carshalton Athletic
54 Hythe Town v Tilbury
55 Hemel Hempstead Town v AFC Hornchurch
56 Maldon & Tiptree v Maidstone United
57 Dulwich Hamlet v Harrow Borough
58 Bognor Regis Town v Thurrock
59 Enfield Town v Lowestoft Town
60 Aylesbury United v Ramsgate
61 Slough Town v Merthyr Town
62 Weymouth v Bridgewater Town
63 AFC Totton v Clevedon Town
64 Tiverton Town v Truro City
65 Chippenham Town v Chertsey Town
66 Egham Town v Cirencester Town
67 Shortwood United v Mangotsfield United
68 Hungerford Town v Bashley
69 Swindon Supermarine v Bideford
70 Frome Town v Poole Town
71 Marlow v North Leigh
72 Burnham v Paulton Rovers

The FA Carlsberg Vase – 1st Rd Proper
51 Tower Hamlets v Haringey Borough
52 Hanwell Town v London APSA
53 Oxhey Jets v Stotfold
54 Hillingdon Borough v Hadley
55 Ilford v Tring Athletic
56 Baldock Town v Berkhamsted
57 Welwyn Garden City v Bedfont & Feltham
58 Takeley v Sporting Bengal United
59 Clapton v Barking (1.30)
60 St Margaretsbury v Colney Heath
61 Cockfosters v Wembley
62 Dorking v Knaphill
63 Farnham Town v East Preston - Farnham host current Sussex One league leaders - unbeaten W9 D1 - 100% away from home.
64 Littlehampton Town v Corinthian
65 Beckenham Town v Westfield
67 Ashford United v Greenwich Borough
68 Whyteleafe v Windsor - home side sit tucked in behind the leaders in what was the Kent League - relegated from Ryman South in 11-12 - seem pretty free-scoring in the league and cup this season - put 6 past Epsom & Ewell in the FA Cup who were unbeaten at the time but needed extra time & pens to overcome the same opponents in an earlier round of this competition - very nice ground set in a leafier bit of Sarf Lahnden just off the A22. Clubs will have met several times in the Ryman/Isthmian whilst Windsor were in their former guise - but I think the last FA competition clash, was in 92-93, when W&E triumphed 3-1 at Church Rd.
69 Crowborough Athletic v Epsom Athletic
70 Staines Lammas v South Park
71 Chessington & Hook United v Hassocks
72 Newhaven v Cove - long trip but they have been much better away from home so far this season - co-incidentally Cove were also here in 2009-10 Vase when they won 6-0 - Newhaven themselves put 6 past Horley from CCLP in the Vase last month .
73 Eastbourne United v Pheonix Sports
74 Erith Town v Lingfield
75 East Grinstead Town v Sevenoaks Town
76 Winchester City v Sholing
77 Hamworthy United v Oxford City Nomads
78 Kidlington v Lymington Town
79 Highmoor Ibis v Folland Sports - away side are mid-table Wessex Prem - were known as GE Hamble last season and variants of Hamble SSC prior to that.
80 Wantage Town v Abingdon Town
81 Abingdon United v Fareham Town
82 Hartley Wintney v Petersfield Town - Petersfield are from Wessex Div One currently unbeaten in the league have scored 12 in their last 2 league games - but only played 5 matches so far this season ?
83 Moneyfields v Christchurch
84 Bradford Town v AFC Portchester
85 Verwood Town v Laverstock & Ford
86 Alresford Town v Hythe & Dibden
87 Reading Town v Milton United - Milton having a brighter than usual season in Hellenic Div One East
88 Binfield v Warminster Town - visitors struggling near the foot of Western Div One STEP06
89 Bishop Sutton v Odd Down
90 Almondsbury UWE v Barnstaple Town
91 Cadbury Heath v Hallen
92 Brimscombe & Thrupp v Ashton & Backwell United
93 Brislington v Longwell Green Sports
94 Bovey Tracey v Shepton Mallet
95 Saltash United v Willand Rovers
96 Plymouth Parkway v Gillingham Town
97 Tavistock v Winterbourne United
98 Buckland Athletic v Bristol Manor Farm

CONF Premier
Aldershot Town v Alfreton Town
CONFS
Basingstoke Town v Boreham Wood
Chelmsford City v Eastbourne Borough
Dover Athletic v Havant & Waterlooville
Eastleigh v Staines Town
Ebbsfleet United v Gosport Borough
Hayes & Yeading Utd v Bishops Stortford
Maidenhead United v Dorchester Town
Sutton United v Bromley
Tonbridge Angels v Farnborough
Weston-Super-Mare v Concord Rangers
Whitehawk v Bath City
CONFN
Oxford City v Worcester City
SOUTH1C
Chalfont St Peter v Leighton Town
Uxbridge v Ashford Town (Middx)
SOUTH1S&W
Wimborne Town v Didcot Town
Yate Town v Godalming Town

CCLP
Badshot Lea v Bedfont Sports
Croydon v Colliers Wood United
Epsom & Ewell v Frimley Green
Hanworth Villa v Camberley Town
Mole Valley SCR v Ash United
Molesey v Alton Town
CCL1
Banstead Athletic v South Kilburn
Eversley & California v Sandhurst Town
Farleigh Rovers v Sheerwater
Worcester Park v Spelthorne Sports

HELLP
Cheltenham Saracens v Wootton Bassett Town
Flackwell Heath v Highworth Town
Holyport v Shrivenham
Newbury v Bracknell Town
Thame United v Ascot United
HELL1E
Finchampstead v Didcot Town Res
Rayners Lane v Burnham Res
Wokingham & Emmbrook v Chalfont Wasps
Woodley Town v Penn & Tylers Green

HELL1W
Letcombe v Tytherington Rocks

WESS1
Andover New Street v Ringwood Town
Andover Town v Cowes Sports
Pewsey Vale v Fleet Spurs
Stockbridge v Tadley Calleva

[tmesis]

why does the FA Trophy have qualifying rounds?

I can understand the need for preliminary rounds, to get entrants down to a number that will divide down by two round by round, but why not just call the round after that Round 1?

The FA Cup is a bit different as it always used to start after Christmas, and you can understand the idea that it becomes the "proper" competition once the league sides join, but it seems a little pointless for the Trophy.

I'll be keeping an eye on the results. It's my turn to drive "somewhere" for a random non-league game on the day of the next round, and I think I owe my mate a drive up north somewhere. I quite fancy Wakefield, as they play at Wakefield Trinity's ground, with huge covered terrace behind one goal.