2013 Summer Transfer Window Deadline Day

[Waylenstreet]

WTF is going on

oxf*rd all. As planned.

[rfc58]

Assuming we have not signed anybody...

We clearly need 2 more which Adkins said we would, including a striker which we desperatly need.. We then lose 2 players and sign nobody? Cant be true.. Surely

We need a forward, a centre half that can play out from the back, and possibly some more creativity in midfield.

Should still challenge top6 with current squad, but you have to think automatic is out the question.

As i have said before, I wonder if there are games going on at the club.

We all agree that AZ mentioned several players in the pipeline, after the three came in, NA mentioned he needed players, he also said the loan market was an option but not his preferred one, as he'd rather try what we have at the club already, was that a dig beforehand to say "I have told you what i need, i have told you loans aren't the answer" now bloody well deliver.

[Hampshire Royal]

I can't honestly say I'm sorry that we apparently refused to be held ransom by the ridiculous wages and fees bandied arond. £85 million for Bale who is reportedly earning £300,000 a week. Good player and all that, but really!! I know he's at the top of the pile, but there are players in the Championship earning more than £2 million per annum - including at RFC.

I know it's been said before, but football just cannot carry on like this. To make serious money a club has to win the Champions League to get anywhere near justifying that sort of outlay. I know that people will say that we have a rich Russian owning the club, and that he should just throw his money into the bottomless pit in the hope that this will buy us success. His first duty is to ensure that we have a sustainable club.

[Elm Park Pasty]

I can't honestly say I'm sorry that we apparently refused to be held ransom by the ridiculous wages and fees bandied arond. £85 million for Bale who is reportedly earning £300,000 a week. Good player and all that, but really!! I know he's at the top of the pile, but there are players in the Championship earning more than £2 million per annum - including at RFC.

I know it's been said before, but football just cannot carry on like this. To make serious money a club has to win the Champions League to get anywhere near justifying that sort of outlay. I know that people will say that we have a rich Russian owning the club, and that he should just throw his money into the bottomless pit in the hope that this will buy us success. His first duty is to ensure that we have a sustainable club.

+1 The top level grading for the Academy could have been one of the best things to come out of the summer, that and the fact the club is looking for a new permanent base which will not be cheap. The only issue is the rash spoutings that have been made to lead us to believe that we will be buying big this window. The important thing will be to produce players which will be able to make the grade, and will also be seen getting into the team to attract more players.

[urzmikep]

I can't honestly say I'm sorry that we apparently refused to be held ransom by the ridiculous wages and fees bandied arond. £85 million for Bale who is reportedly earning £300,000 a week. Good player and all that, but really!! I know he's at the top of the pile, but there are players in the Championship earning more than £2 million per annum - including at RFC.

I know it's been said before, but football just cannot carry on like this. To make serious money a club has to win the Champions League to get anywhere near justifying that sort of outlay. I know that people will say that we have a rich Russian owning the club, and that he should just throw his money into the bottomless pit in the hope that this will buy us success. His first duty is to ensure that we have a sustainable club.

Football can carry on like this and it will whilst the TV companies keep on paying silly amounts of money for the rights to view the games. The fact that little old Reading is doing it "our" way then good luck as we start to loose touch and keep up with the clubs around us and see us start moving down the league.
Yes we most probably won't be relegated like Wolves but we certainly won't be promoted based on the side we've got and the lack of investment!!!
The way I look at it is look at Southampton & Wet Sham who finished beneath us in our last promotion year and look at them now (record signings of £15m+)

Even Crystal Palace, Hull and Cardiff are showing more ambition than us last Summer!!

Just a shame that the club set our expectation levels that we were going to signing players when we haven't.

As I've said several times on here......I can see Nigel Adkins walking out on us for the promises that he was given of money being available to buy players

Watch this space - he won't be here come January!!

[melonhead]

Even Crystal Palace, Hull and Cardiff are showing more ambition than us last Summer!!

every season the clubs look at who went up and who came back down, basing their approach on that.


with us, the previous year the clubs that went up put small wisely spent ammounts into the best championship young hungry players to add to the squads who got them there, and stayed up.

we did the same, and came down, so now everyone is thinking you 100% need to spunk money to stay up.

[Royal Lady]

Were those the dulcet tones of RL I heard haranguing that nice Mr Williams on BBCRB this morning?

I wasn't haranguing Williams - he was agreeing with me!! Give me 10 mins with NH and NA and I'd get a lot more answers than Dellor would ever get for a start.

[urzmikep]

Even Crystal Palace, Hull and Cardiff are showing more ambition than us last Summer!!

every season the clubs look at who went up and who came back down, basing their approach on that.


with us, the previous year the clubs that went up put small wisely spent amounts into the best championship young hungry players to add to the squads who got them there, and stayed up.

we did the same, and came down, so now everyone is thinking you 100% need to spunk money to stay up.

or what most newly promoted clubs do is "poach" the best players from the clubs that get relegated which we don't ever seem to do

[CountryRoyal]

Assou-Ekotta is no improvement on Wayne Bridge and Kranjcar has seen his best days.

Behave.

[melonhead]

Even Crystal Palace, Hull and Cardiff are showing more ambition than us last Summer!!

every season the clubs look at who went up and who came back down, basing their approach on that.


with us, the previous year the clubs that went up put small wisely spent amounts into the best championship young hungry players to add to the squads who got them there, and stayed up.

we did the same, and came down, so now everyone is thinking you 100% need to spunk money to stay up.

or what most newly promoted clubs do is "poach" the best players from the clubs that get relegated which we don't ever seem to do

im glad really.
id rather go the route we did if possible.
losing is a habit that is hard to break

[Esteban]

I can't honestly say I'm sorry that we apparently refused to be held ransom by the ridiculous wages and fees bandied arond. £85 million for Bale who is reportedly earning £300,000 a week. Good player and all that, but really!! I know he's at the top of the pile, but there are players in the Championship earning more than £2 million per annum - including at RFC.

I know it's been said before, but football just cannot carry on like this. To make serious money a club has to win the Champions League to get anywhere near justifying that sort of outlay. I know that people will say that we have a rich Russian owning the club, and that he should just throw his money into the bottomless pit in the hope that this will buy us success. His first duty is to ensure that we have a sustainable club.

Football can carry on like this and it will whilst the TV companies keep on paying silly amounts of money for the rights to view the games. The fact that little old Reading is doing it "our" way then good luck as we start to loose touch and keep up with the clubs around us and see us start moving down the league.
Yes we most probably won't be relegated like Wolves but we certainly won't be promoted based on the side we've got and the lack of investment!!!
The way I look at it is look at Southampton & Wet Sham who finished beneath us in our last promotion year and look at them now (record signings of £15m+)

Even Crystal Palace, Hull and Cardiff are showing more ambition than us last Summer!!

Just a shame that the club set our expectation levels that we were going to signing players when we haven't.

As I've said several times on here......I can see Nigel Adkins walking out on us for the promises that he was given of money being available to buy players

Watch this space - he won't be here come January!!

This transfer window, we've signed players from Manchester City, Real Madrid (albeit via Russia) and Bundesliga club Hoffenheim. Last transfer window, we signed players from Fulham, Sheffield United and Crawley Town! Adkins has had money and he has spent it pretty well, mostly on wages and signing on fees. If we had signed Bridge, Drenthe and Williams whilst we were in the Premier League and just missed out on Sissoko, everybody on here would have wet themselves with excitement. Now we're in the Championship, suddenly people complain we haven't spent enough and that Sissoko isn't good enough!

No wonder the club don't say anything, they can't win either way.

[Extended-Phenotype]

They can win by doing what they say they are going to do and signing the players we need.

[southbank1871]

I think one of the issues we have as a club is that we are very rarely prepared to pay more (either in wages or fee) than we believe a player is worth, so we won't allow ourselves to be held to ransom. Clubs like QPR clearly don't have this restraint.

I back this approach on the whole, but Jesus Christ we could do with another striker. I suspect not being able to offload Pog massively hampered our transfer dealings.

[sandman]

I can't honestly say I'm sorry that we apparently refused to be held ransom by the ridiculous wages and fees bandied arond. £85 million for Bale who is reportedly earning £300,000 a week. Good player and all that, but really!! I know he's at the top of the pile, but there are players in the Championship earning more than £2 million per annum - including at RFC.

I know it's been said before, but football just cannot carry on like this. To make serious money a club has to win the Champions League to get anywhere near justifying that sort of outlay. I know that people will say that we have a rich Russian owning the club, and that he should just throw his money into the bottomless pit in the hope that this will buy us success. His first duty is to ensure that we have a sustainable club.

Football can carry on like this and it will whilst the TV companies keep on paying silly amounts of money for the rights to view the games. The fact that little old Reading is doing it "our" way then good luck as we start to loose touch and keep up with the clubs around us and see us start moving down the league.
Yes we most probably won't be relegated like Wolves but we certainly won't be promoted based on the side we've got and the lack of investment!!!
The way I look at it is look at Southampton & Wet Sham who finished beneath us in our last promotion year and look at them now (record signings of £15m+)

Even Crystal Palace, Hull and Cardiff are showing more ambition than us last Summer!!

Just a shame that the club set our expectation levels that we were going to signing players when we haven't.

As I've said several times on here......I can see Nigel Adkins walking out on us for the promises that he was given of money being available to buy players

Watch this space - he won't be here come January!!

This transfer window, we've signed players from Manchester City, Real Madrid (albeit via Russia) and Bundesliga club Hoffenheim. Last transfer window, we signed players from Fulham, Sheffield United and Crawley Town! Adkins has had money and he has spent it pretty well, mostly on wages and signing on fees. If we had signed Bridge, Drenthe and Williams whilst we were in the Premier League and just missed out on Sissoko, everybody on here would have wet themselves with excitement. Now we're in the Championship, suddenly people complain we haven't spent enough and that Sissoko isn't good enough!

No wonder the club don't say anything, they can't win either way.

People like you are so busy defending them that you're not listening to the points people are making. No one is complaining about the quality of the likes of Drenthe and Bridge or even Sissoko if he does sign, excellent player with great pedigree who we wouldn't have dreamt would have signed for us before.

The issue is the fact that we have not addressed the problems we have in the squad i.e a striker, a back up Left back and now, given the sale of Mapps and the doubts over Gorkss ability to perform at this level, a third/fourth choice CB.

[Extended-Phenotype]

"held to ransom" or in Direct English "pay what the other club wants for their player".

Bale's ability is not worth 85m. To Spurs however, anything less than that and they would rather keep the player. Sometimes you have to pay over the odds to get what you need. Frugality Vs Ambition. If we are still a frugal club, don't pretend to be otherwise.

This wasn't an exercise in splashing the cash, this was a window in which to secure the players we very much need, to match the expectations of fans, which have been raised by the promises made by the club.

It's a poor show no matter how anyone tries to justify it.

[southbank1871]

We should be buying players to match the expectations of the fans, even if that means paying vastly more than we believe that player is worth?

We should support the team either way, buying a season ticket shouldn't be based on whether we're going to spend £5m - £10m in a transfer window, or whether we're going to finish in the top two.

Yes we can hope to buy a number of good players to improve the squad, but expect it, get over yourself?

[sandman]

Don't promise it then. They build up the expectations of the fans, "6/7 signings" for instance. Can't complain when it's a problem of their own making.

[Extended-Phenotype]

(1) We should be buying players to match the expectations of the fans, even if that means paying vastly more than we believe that player is worth?

(2) We should support the team either way, buying a season ticket shouldn't be based on whether we're going to spend £5m - £10m in a transfer window, or whether we're going to finish in the top two.

(3) Yes we can hope to buy a number of good players to improve the squad, but expect it, get over yourself?

(1) Straw man
(2) Support is a choice. If a fan thinks the club is being fraudulent I could understand why said fan may reconsider their support.
(3) Expectation based on promises, made realistic by the fact that other teams are able to do what is being expected.

[southbank1871]

Don't promise it then. They build up the expectations of the fans, "6/7 signings" for instance. Can't complain when it's a problem of their own making.

Was it cast iron promise, written in blood?

You're a bit like a child. "But you promised, you said, you said, you said, you said!!!"

[southbank1871]

Fraudulent? Lol.