Brian: The right decision?

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Have the club done the right thing to sack Brian today?

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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by Judge Drenthe » 29 Jun 2013 17:17

Whoooooshes Dooooooshes, Douche bag.

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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by Ian Royal » 29 Jun 2013 20:16

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Ian Royal Most of us who like Adkins aren't pissing on McDermott though. We just recognise the flaws he had last season and that ultimately saying goodbye was a good decision. No one is saying he did a bad job prior to that, even if they are saying they may have prefered him to do things a little differently.

The problem comes from those who won't let go and persist in trying to argue that McDermott was totally hard done by.


Exactly what you said, only completely the opposite.

This thread exists largely because of so many people slagging off Brian and spitting out revisionist nonsense about his time here. I don't think anyone's going to argue that last season was a top-to-bottom fukk up (including BMc) but he enjoyed unforeseen and quite remarkable success during the rest of his time at the club.

It's just totally wrong not to mention disrespectful to try and rewrite that slice of history.

The sad thing is, the same fans slagging him off will be the first to get on Adkins back the moment we lose a couple of games in a row, and were probably the same to praise McDermott as a legend when we won the league. They just see which way the wind is blowing and spout off accordingly.

:| Well done for completely disagree with me and then largely repeating what I said, and where you're not doing that making up what other people said instead.

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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by AthleticoSpizz » 29 Jun 2013 20:22

MaccyD on Talksquawk earlier this evening.

Amongst all of the Leeds comings and goings (a bit of a shout out for Noel) chit chat, he is genuinely looking forward to the Reading game in September.

No stoking of the fires...just a decent chance to say his fond farewells


Intimated that he never got the chance at the time of his sacking.

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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by Avon Royal » 30 Jun 2013 17:07

That's pretty much what you do to people who you sack though. No time to say goodbye - here's a box, clear your desk and jog on.

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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by AthleticoSpizz » 30 Jun 2013 20:18

So then, its safe to say, that we'll all raise to our feet and applaud him when the Leeds roadshow comes to town.


Before all of the usual/predictable footballing platitudes begin.


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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by Ian Royal » 30 Jun 2013 20:26

AthleticoSpizz So then, its safe to say, that we'll all raise to our feet and applaud him when the Leeds roadshow comes to town.

Of course.

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Re: Brian: The right decision?

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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by Judge Drenthe » 01 Jul 2013 19:44

Same old BS from our Brian.

On Murphy: "He's a player I've known for a long time, I've watched his career progress, feel he was the best player in his div. last year."

Same was said about Akpan, same division, same position... :roll:

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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by sandman » 01 Jul 2013 19:48

Can you explain why you felt you needed to post that?


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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by Judge Drenthe » 01 Jul 2013 20:50

sandman Can you explain why you felt you needed to post that?


Yes.

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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by RoyalBlue » 02 Jul 2013 10:14

Judge Drenthe Same old BS from our Brian.

On Murphy: "He's a player I've known for a long time, I've watched his career progress, feel he was the best player in his div. last year."

Same was said about Akpan, same division, same position... :roll:


You do have to question why, as a PL manager, he only chose to sign the second best player in his division last year! :wink:

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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by SPARTA » 02 Jul 2013 10:56

Fair comment that!

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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by Royal91 » 10 Jul 2013 00:29

http://www.leedsunited.com/news/2013070 ... 85_3232739

BM "We want to be one of the best passing teams in this division"

I'm sorry but BM is full of shit when it comes to passing. Throughout his tenure at Reading he always said we know we can pass better blah blah. Never saw any evidence of that.

But maybe Hunt can be the expert link player now he's at Leeds. And that 6 ft 6 bloke Matt Smith can also link play.


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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by winchester_royal » 10 Jul 2013 00:36

We'll see. I think he'll have learned a lot from his last few months here and the last thing he wants is to be associated with 'hoofball' as that can pretty much kill a manager's career these days.

We know that he's an excellent motivator, and a decent coach, so no reason to think he won't be able to adapt having learned from his mistakes. Time will tell, but I have little doubt that he'll do a very good job next season for Leeds.

Hopefully the events of March will prove beneficial for both us and him in the long run.

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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by melonhead » 10 Jul 2013 10:47

Royal91 http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20130709/slovenia-boss-delighted-with-early-signs_2247585_3232739

BM "We want to be one of the best passing teams in this division"

I'm sorry but BM is full of shit when it comes to passing. Throughout his tenure at Reading he always said we know we can pass better blah blah. Never saw any evidence of that.

But maybe Hunt can be the expert link player now he's at Leeds. And that 6 ft 6 bloke Matt Smith can also link play.

what alot of shit, the style was totally different when we had gylfi.
we had a load of players who werent suited to that though, due to the last few years of total cost cutting by JM, so had little choice. especially once it was agreed that we wouldnt spend huge money on new players

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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by Extended-Phenotype » 10 Jul 2013 11:03

Personally, I think ^ is a lot of shit.

We seemed to be passing the ball well enough under Adkins. Love Brian, but think all this 'he did all he could with what he had' apologising is a bit unfair on the players.

His tactics were simplistic because either:

a) Brian lacked experience to play a better game
b) Brian lacked faith in the ability of his players to play a better game
c) Brian thought a simplistic game gave us the best chance

In my opinion it was probably a bit of each, but when it comes down to it they are all errors from Brian.

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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by Wycombe Royal » 10 Jul 2013 11:14

melonhead
Royal91 http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20130709/slovenia-boss-delighted-with-early-signs_2247585_3232739

BM "We want to be one of the best passing teams in this division"

I'm sorry but BM is full of shit when it comes to passing. Throughout his tenure at Reading he always said we know we can pass better blah blah. Never saw any evidence of that.

But maybe Hunt can be the expert link player now he's at Leeds. And that 6 ft 6 bloke Matt Smith can also link play.

what alot of shit, the style was totally different when we had gylfi.
we had a load of players who werent suited to that though, due to the last few years of total cost cutting by JM, so had little choice. especially once it was agreed that we wouldnt spend huge money on new players

So how come teams with lower budgets than us managed to sign players capable of playing a passing game. McDermott scouted and signed all these players so he obviously had a style of football in mind when signing them.

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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by Ian Royal » 10 Jul 2013 11:48

Extended-Phenotype Personally, I think ^ is a lot of shit.

We seemed to be passing the ball well enough under Adkins. Love Brian, but think all this 'he did all he could with what he had' apologising is a bit unfair on the players.

His tactics were simplistic because either:

a) Brian lacked experience to play a better game
b) Brian lacked faith in the ability of his players to play a better game
c) Brian thought a simplistic game gave us the best chance

In my opinion it was probably a bit of each, but when it comes down to it they are all errors from Brian.

All you've got to do is look at the mis-use of Guthrie and how Karacan looked a completely different player under Adkins to see this has wings. McDermott chose to play with a midfield of bypassed water carriers. It wasn't forced on him. He chose to have his defenders play long balls forward over the midfield. We saw before and after that the players could do something different.

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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by creative_username_1 » 10 Jul 2013 12:09

We'll be able to see how effective Adkins methods are in a few weeks.
Better looking football, check.
Better looking football whilst winning - Jury is out

Pretty optimistic at the mo tbh

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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by sandman » 10 Jul 2013 12:20

Guthrie was not mis-used to anywhere near the extent he was made out to be Guthrie simply was not willing to adapt his game which if he was as good as he is made out to be by himself and on here he would have had no problem with doing. The simple fact is he doesn't have a great attitude or a great deal of application. Jem is a great example of Emperors new clothes! He does the same sideways passing that he always has done bar one pass against Fulham where there was no pressure on the game. Let's see how he does in the middle of December against Huddersfield.
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