The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round 2012/2013

by MmmMonsterMunch » 13 May 2013 22:58

Personally I feel it's a tad harsh. 2 trophies in 3 seasons isn't to be sniffed at.

He had the fans backing too which lets face it is half the battle.

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round 2012/2013

by sandman » 14 May 2013 00:08

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You know someone's a decent bloke when Royalee doesn't like them.

So that's Mancini, Di Matteo, McDermott and Dalglish all sacked after winning top trophies last season. One looks like he's going to be replaced by a man who failed at his last major job, one was temporarily replaced by an interim, One has been replaced by the man he beat to the trophy he won and the other one has been replaced by David Brent.

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round 2012/2013

by genome » 14 May 2013 00:37

Brendan Rodgers is now the 7th longest serving manager in the Premier League - having been appointed in June last year.

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round 2012/2013

by St. Brynjar » 14 May 2013 00:40

genome Brendan Rodgers is now the 7th longest serving manager in the Premier League - having been appointed in June last year.

That's just...wow.

If we kept Brian he'd be 7th longest serving in the country, and with Pulis, Wilder & Martinez all under scrutiny/speculation, it could have been even higher.

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round 2012/2013

by Jackson Corner » 14 May 2013 03:12

Biggest mistake was taking Tevez back like a long lost hero after a nine month golf holiday. Fergie would not have had him within ten miles of OT. No player is ever bigger than one club and showed weakness and lack of respect for the other players.


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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round 2012/2013

by Unphased Royal » 14 May 2013 03:13

genome Brendan Rodgers is now the 7th longest serving manager in the Premier League - having been appointed in June last year.

That is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read. The Premier League is a joke.

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round 2012/2013

by southbank1871 » 14 May 2013 08:50

MmmMonsterMunch Personally I feel it's a tad harsh. 2 trophies in 3 seasons isn't to be sniffed at.

He had the fans backing too which lets face it is half the battle.


Fans are generally idiots though. 2 trophies in 3 seasons would be fine at most clubs, but not at Man City. Particularly with some of the poor signings Mancini has made and his complete failure in Europe.

Sandman - are you seriously suggesting that Liverpool should have kept Dalglish as manager? :|

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round 2012/2013

by YateleyRoyal » 14 May 2013 10:10

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genome Brendan Rodgers is now the 7th longest serving manager in the Premier League - having been appointed in June last year.

That is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read. The Premier League is a joke.


That's only if you dont count Moyes and Fergie, right?

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round 2012/2013

by soggy biscuit » 14 May 2013 10:34

4 of the PL's top 6 clubs to all lose their manager this summer

Can't have happened too often


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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round 2012/2013

by sandman » 14 May 2013 11:10

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MmmMonsterMunch Personally I feel it's a tad harsh. 2 trophies in 3 seasons isn't to be sniffed at.

He had the fans backing too which lets face it is half the battle.


Fans are generally idiots though. 2 trophies in 3 seasons would be fine at most clubs, but not at Man City. Particularly with some of the poor signings Mancini has made and his complete failure in Europe.

Sandman - are you seriously suggesting that Liverpool should have kept Dalglish as manager? :|

Not at all just pointing out they've all been sacked. Dalglish is the only one that really should've gone imo.

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round 2012/2013

by No Fixed Abode » 14 May 2013 11:41

Really? Liverpool currently have 6 more points than they did in the last campaign and are 1 place higher. Does the slight improvement in the league better that of winning the league cup and getting to the FA Cup final? Surely that marginal difference in the league doesn't matter, unless you qualify for the Champions League.

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round 2012/2013

by winchester_royal » 14 May 2013 12:17

No Fixed Abode Really? Liverpool currently have 6 more points than they did in the last campaign and are 1 place higher. Does the slight improvement in the league better that of winning the league cup and getting to the FA Cup final? Surely that marginal difference in the league doesn't matter, unless you qualify for the Champions League.


Depends on how you want to look at it. Liverpool have considerably more scope for progression under Rodgers, especially when you consider the younger players he's brought in, and in the long run they look open to lots of improvement. Under Dalglish their long term prospects were not as good, but they did win the League Cup.

I know what I'd be happier with if I was a Liverpool fan, but I guess you Chelsea lot are all about the short term.

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round 2012/2013

by No Fixed Abode » 14 May 2013 12:33

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No Fixed Abode Really? Liverpool currently have 6 more points than they did in the last campaign and are 1 place higher. Does the slight improvement in the league better that of winning the league cup and getting to the FA Cup final? Surely that marginal difference in the league doesn't matter, unless you qualify for the Champions League.


Depends on how you want to look at it. Liverpool have considerably more scope for progression under Rodgers, especially when you consider the younger players he's brought in, and in the long run they look open to lots of improvement. Under Dalglish their long term prospects were not as good, but they did win the League Cup.

I know what I'd be happier with if I was a Liverpool fan, but I guess you Chelsea lot are all about the short term.


Tbh - it's all about winning trophies. Not that you would know anything about that.


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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round 2012/2013

by TBM » 14 May 2013 12:35

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No Fixed Abode Really? Liverpool currently have 6 more points than they did in the last campaign and are 1 place higher. Does the slight improvement in the league better that of winning the league cup and getting to the FA Cup final? Surely that marginal difference in the league doesn't matter, unless you qualify for the Champions League.


Depends on how you want to look at it. Liverpool have considerably more scope for progression under Rodgers, especially when you consider the younger players he's brought in, and in the long run they look open to lots of improvement. Under Dalglish their long term prospects were not as good, but they did win the League Cup.

I know what I'd be happier with if I was a Liverpool fan, but I guess you Chelsea lot are all about the short term.


Tbh - it's all about winning trophies. Not that you would know anything about that.


In his first season?

I agree that it comes down to winning something (or at least breaking in to the top 4 again) within 5 years but i don't think the club expected Rodgers to win anything this year

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round 2012/2013

by winchester_royal » 14 May 2013 13:16

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No Fixed Abode Really? Liverpool currently have 6 more points than they did in the last campaign and are 1 place higher. Does the slight improvement in the league better that of winning the league cup and getting to the FA Cup final? Surely that marginal difference in the league doesn't matter, unless you qualify for the Champions League.


Depends on how you want to look at it. Liverpool have considerably more scope for progression under Rodgers, especially when you consider the younger players he's brought in, and in the long run they look open to lots of improvement. Under Dalglish their long term prospects were not as good, but they did win the League Cup.

I know what I'd be happier with if I was a Liverpool fan, but I guess you Chelsea lot are all about the short term.


Tbh - it's all about winning trophies. Not that you would know anything about that.


Yes, but in the long run they'll have more chance of winning better trophies than the League Cup under Rodgers - can you wrap your little brain around that :?:

P.S. Won more league trophies than Chelsea have in the last 3 years. Ta though.

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round 2012/2013

by No Fixed Abode » 14 May 2013 13:52

Deary me Winch. Desperate stuff there.

Next season eh?! :lol:

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round 2012/2013

by Royal With Cheese » 14 May 2013 14:08

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No Fixed Abode Really? Liverpool currently have 6 more points than they did in the last campaign and are 1 place higher. Does the slight improvement in the league better that of winning the league cup and getting to the FA Cup final? Surely that marginal difference in the league doesn't matter, unless you qualify for the Champions League.


Depends on how you want to look at it. Liverpool have considerably more scope for progression under Rodgers, especially when you consider the younger players he's brought in, and in the long run they look open to lots of improvement. Under Dalglish their long term prospects were not as good, but they did win the League Cup.

I know what I'd be happier with if I was a Liverpool fan, but I guess you Chelsea lot are all about the short term.

Although Rodgers has bought in some reasonable youngsters he's going to have to cope with the likes of Carragher retiring now and Gerrard's not getting any younger (33 in a couple of weeks time?). Coupled with whatever Suarez decides to do it's going to be a bumpy ride. I would Imagine he'll be off next season if he either does something really stupid or Liverpool don't get a champions league spot.

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round 2012/2013

by Hoop Blah » 14 May 2013 14:37

The sacking of Manchini is a little bit like McDermott going.

They both achieved some success but both failed miserably to build on that or to get anywhere near the best out of the squad they'd put together. Looking at where they're clubs were in relation to past expectations you'd say they were still being successful, but put it into context of how the team was playing, progressing and the resources ploughed in and both look like the right decisions to me.

City this year have been awful and only pulled through by some of their exceptional players.

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round 2012/2013

by southbank1871 » 14 May 2013 14:40

I'd say there were slightly more resources ploughed into the City team and Mancini hardly took a cobbled together team and made them successful in the same way that McDermott did. I can't really see too many similarites myself.

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round 2012/2013

by Hoop Blah » 14 May 2013 15:22

McDermotts team in the Championship had, relative to the rest of the division, been 'cobbled together' with one of the larger budgets for the division. It wasn't so much the value of the resources that I was refering to though.

The similarity is that neither manager was doing the main function of their job, to get the best out of the resources they had.

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