5 team league

[Royals-lad14]

QPR: Sunderland H Villa A Fulham A Wigan H Everton A Stoke H Reading A Arsenal H Newcastle H Liverpool A

Reading: Villa H United A Arsenal A Saints H Liverpool H Norwich A QPR H Fulham A City H West ham A

Villa: City H Reading A QPR H Liverpool H Stoke A Fulham H United A Sunderland H Norwich A Chelsea H Wigan A

Wigan: FA CUP ,(Man city A) Newcastle H Norwich H QPR A Swansea H West ham A Spurs H WBA A Arsenal A Villa H

Saints: Norwich A Liverpool H Chelsea H Reading A West ham H Swansea A WBA H Spurs A Sunderland A Stoke H

QPR: WIN, DRAW, LOSS, WIN, DRAW, LOSS, LOSS, LOSS, WIN, LOSS 32 POINTS

Reading: DRAW, LOSS, LOSS, DRAW, DRAW, LOSS, WIN, DRAW, LOSS, WIN 33 POINTS

Villa: (excluding city) DRAW, DRAW, DRAW, LOSS, WIN, LOSS, WIN, LOSS, LOSS, DRAW 34 POINTS

Wigan: DRAW, WIN, LOSS, DRAW, LOSS, LOSS, LOSS, LOSS, DRAW 30 POINTS

Saints: LOSE, DRAW, LOSE,DRAW, WIN, LOSE, DRAW, LOSE, LOSE, WIN 36 POINTS


Saints 36 pts
Villa 34 pts
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Reading 33 pts
QPR 32 pts
Wigan 30 pts

it could easily go down to goal difference lets hope it is between us and villa for that...

[JordCot]

QPR: Sunderland H WIN Villa A DRAW Fulham A DRAW Wigan H WIN Everton A LOSE Stoke H WIN Reading A DRAW Arsenal H DRAW Newcastle H DRAW Liverpool A LOSE TOTAL POINTS 34

Reading: Villa H WIN United A LOSE Arsenal A LOSE Saints H DRAW Liverpool H LOSE Norwich A WIN QPR H DRAW Fulham A DRAW City H LOSE West ham A LOSE TOTAL POINTS 32

Villa: City H LOSE Reading A LOSE QPR H DRAW Liverpool H DRAW Stoke A DRAW Fulham H WIN United A LOSE Sunderland H WIN Norwich A LOSE Chelsea H LOSE Wigan A WIN TOTAL POINTS 36

Wigan: FA CUP ,(Man city A) LOSE Newcastle H DRAW Norwich H WIN QPR A LOSE Swansea H DRAW West ham A DRAW Spurs H LOSE WBA A DRAW Arsenal A LOSE Villa H LOSE TOTAL POINTS 31

Saints: Norwich A DRAW Liverpool H LOSE Chelsea H DRAW Reading A DRAW West ham H WIN Swansea A LOSE WBA H WIN Spurs A LOSE Sunderland ADRAW Stoke HDRAW TOTAL POINTS 38 POINTS

PREDICTION FINAL TABLE
Southampton 38 points
Villa 36 points
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QPR 34 POINTS
Reading 32 POINTS
Wigan 31 POINTS

I think this might be a bit kind to QPR, people of been predicting these sort of results for them all season I can't seen them getting that many points myself

[royalsteve]

my predictions...cant realy see anyone else joining the party, possibly sunderland but newcastle/fulham/norwich probably only need 2 wins to be safe

wouldnt disagree with much, but maybe a little more optimsitic

QPR: Sunderland H WIN Villa A DRAW Fulham A DRAW Wigan H WIN Everton A LOSE Stoke H DRAW Reading A LOSE Arsenal H LOSE Newcastle H DRAW Liverpool A LOSE TOTAL POINTS 30

Reading: Villa H WIN United A LOSE Arsenal A LOSE Saints H DRAW Liverpool H LOSE Norwich A DRAW QPR H WIN Fulham A WIN City H DRAW West ham A DRAW TOTAL POINTS 36

Villa: City H LOSE Reading A LOSE QPR H DRAW Liverpool H LOSE Stoke A DRAW Fulham H WIN United A LOSE Sunderland H WIN Norwich A DRAW Chelsea H LOSE Wigan A DRAW TOTAL POINTS 34

Wigan: FA CUP ,(Man city A) LOSE Newcastle H LOSE Norwich H WIN QPR A LOSE Swansea H LOSE West ham A DRAW Spurs H LOSE WBA A DRAW Arsenal A LOSE Villa H DRAW TOTAL POINTS 30

Saints: Norwich A DRAW Liverpool H LOSE Chelsea H DRAW Reading A DRAW West ham H WIN Swansea A LOSE WBA H WIN Spurs A LOSE Sunderland ADRAW Stoke HDRAW TOTAL POINTS 38 POINTS

Sunderland QPR A LOSE, Norwich H WIN, Man Utd H LOSE, Chelsea A LOSE, Newcastle A DRAW, Everton H DRAW, Aston Villa A LOSE, Stoke H DRAW, Soton H DRAW, Spurs A LOSE TOTAL POINTS 37

PREDICTION FINAL TABLE
Southampton 38
Sunderland 37 - they have a horrible run in
Reading 36
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Villa 34
Wigan 30
QPR 30

[Snowball]

Jeez, even if we beat Villa and beat QPR we are 99% certain to go down (or we have to get away points at Arsenal or Man Utd and win at Norwich or West Ham

I expect a few of our rivals to start getting results. QPR/Villa/Saints in that order. I can't see anything other than bottom place and 35

No doubt I'm too optimistic (for them) with other teams but then I've got us down as WWD versus Villa/QPR/Saints and that seems VERY VERY unlikely

IMO to have even a CHANCE we have to beat Villa, QPR, Saints at home AND at least a point home to Liverpool. We'll still need results away from home. DOWN


Saints: Norwich A DRAW Liverpool H DRAW Chelsea H DRAW Reading A DRAW West ham H WIN Swansea A LOSE WBA H WIN Spurs A LOSE Sunderland A DRAW Stoke H WIN TOTAL POINTS 41 POINTS

Sunderland QPR A LOSE, Norwich H WIN, Man Utd H LOSE, Chelsea A LOSE, Newcastle A DRAW, Everton H DRAW, Aston Villa A LOSE, Stoke H WIN, Soton H DRAW, Spurs A LOSE TOTAL POINTS 39



Villa: City H LOSE Reading A LOSE QPR H DRAW Liverpool H DRAW Stoke A WIN Fulham H WIN United A LOSE Sunderland H WIN Norwich A DRAW Chelsea H LOSE Wigan A DRAW TOTAL POINTS 37

Wigan: Newcastle H WIN Norwich H WIN QPR A DRAW Swansea H DRAW West ham A DRAW Spurs H DRAW WBA A DRAW Arsenal A LOSE Villa H DRAW TOTAL POINTS 36

QPR: Sunderland H WIN Villa A DRAW Fulham A DRAW Wigan H WIN Everton A DRAW Stoke H WIN Reading A LOSE Arsenal H DRAW Newcastle H WIN Liverpool A LOSE TOTAL POINTS 36

Reading: Villa H WIN United A LOSE Arsenal A LOSE Saints H DRAW Liverpool H DRAW Norwich A DRAW QPR H WIN Fulham A DRAW City H DRAW West ham A DRAW TOTAL POINTS 35
Reading: Villa H WIN United A LOSE Arsenal A LOSE Saints H WIN Liverpool H DRAW Norwich A DRAW QPR H WIN Fulham A DRAW City H DRAW West ham A DRAW TOTAL POINTS 37 and down to GD?

[Wimb]

As much as he's derided for his style, Snowball usually gets things right, so it's a from me after reading that.

[The Real Sandhurst Royal]

Wimb wrote: As much as he's derided for his style, Snowball usually gets things right, so it's a from me after reading that.

Snowballs 35 point prediction is a little high for me.

Relegated with 32 points.

[paultheroyal]

As much as he's derided for his style, Snowball usually gets things right, so it's a from me after reading that.

Don't need all that crap, just follow the ten game countdown thread, simple yet effective. We need five wins!!

[melonhead]

5 wins is too many imo

i reckon it will be 4

[southbank1871]

The more I look at everyone's fixtures, the more I come to the conclusion that we're fukked.

[Ouroboros]

Jeez, even if we beat Villa and beat QPR we are 99% certain to go down

Say what you like about Snowball, he always puts a figure on it (even if in this case it's one he's pulled out of his arse).

[Pepe the Horseman]

I want QPR to go down nearly as much as I want us to stay up.

[Millsy]

I have it on good authority from a very reliable source within RFC that we are mathematically safe!!

[RFCSPACE]

QPR: Sunderland H WIN Villa A WIN Fulham A LOSE Wigan H WIN Everton A LOSE Stoke H DRAW Reading A WIN Arsenal H LOSE Newcastle H DRAW Liverpool A LOSE

Reading: Villa H DRAW United A LOSE Arsenal A LOSE Saints H LOSE Liverpool H DRAW Norwich A DRAW QPR H LOSE Fulham A DRAW City H LOSE West ham A WIN

Villa: Reading A DRAW QPR H LOSE Liverpool H DRAW Stoke A DRAW Fulham H DRAW United A LOSE Sunderland H WIN Norwich A DRAW Chelsea H LOSE Wigan A DRAW

Wigan: Newcastle H DRAW Norwich H WIN QPR A LOSE Swansea H DRAW West ham A WIN Spurs H LOSE WBA A LOSE Arsenal A LOSE Villa H DRAW

Saints: Norwich A WIN Liverpool H DRAW Chelsea H LOSE Reading A WIN West ham H DRAW Swansea A LOSE WBA H WIN Spurs A LOSE Sunderland A LOSE Stoke H DRAW

Saints - 39 points
QPR - 34 points
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Villa - 33 points
Wigan - 33 points
Reading - 30 points

Grim.

[andrew1957]

I think there is a very slim chance that Sunderland could get drawn into the fight as they have a very hard run in - so it "might" be 3 from 6 depending on how Sunderland away at QPR and at home to Norwich go. Lose both and they have a problem.

It looks very tight though and I can see it going down to the last game. Predictions are almost pointless as there are usually a few wins by bottom teams against top sides during the last 10 games of the season and that will throw any predictions out - but 36 points looks like a realistic target to at least give you a chance of survival. That means we need at least 4 wins and a draw from the last 10.

It comes down to who wants it the most during the run in. Fulham did in 2007/8 (they were on 19 points after 28) and Wigan did last year (they were on 21 after 28). We have 23 so there are two precedents of teams surviving with even less points than us in the last few seasons.

[Ian Royal]

I appreciate there are plenty of games left after Villa, but if we lose I am 100% sure we will go down. Its too simplistic to say there is still 8/9 games to go or whatever it is - we could be relegated this weekend. (not literally).

Effectively, we're going down and all we're doing is waiting for the inevitable confirmation (and have been since our return to shite against Stoke IMO). But I do wish people wouldn't say nonsense like we're 100% down, or relegation is confirmed. It's not, until it actually is.

It may be a bit pedantic. But it's 100% accurate. Unlike us being 100% relegated after Villa if we lose. 95% relegated maybe.

[Arch]

I appreciate there are plenty of games left after Villa, but if we lose I am 100% sure we will go down. Its too simplistic to say there is still 8/9 games to go or whatever it is - we could be relegated this weekend. (not literally).

Both positions are simplistic. What we really have here is a battle of feelings, not of objective descriptions of the facts. "Relegation is confirmed" and the like mean nothing more than "I've given up hope", whereas "there are nine games left, anything can happen" means exactly "I'm irrationally hopeful". Anyone who wants to contribute to an objective evaluation of the situation needs to make some assessment of the probabilities. Unfortunately it's human nature not to be very good with probabilities.

[royalsteve]

As much as he's derided for his style, Snowball usually gets things right, so it's a from me after reading that.

Don't need all that crap, just follow the ten game countdown thread, simple yet effective. We need five wins!!

i dont think we'll need that. this could be one of the lowest points required to avoid relegation - reckon will be 35 enough

[furthest flung fan]

This is my absolutely favourite thread! Love the speculation. Can lie awake for hours working out permutations for the last ten games. Keep up the chatter. Bullshit to some...deeply provocative data for others. We are poised between 2nd and 3rd place, and I'm being optimistic here! This tells me that we're doomed, but where there's hope....

[melonhead]

i keep reading the title as steam league

[Z175]

Villa: City H LOSE Reading A LOSE QPR H DRAW Liverpool H DRAW Stoke A WIN Fulham H WIN United A LOSE Sunderland H WIN Norwich A DRAW Chelsea H LOSE Wigan A DRAW TOTAL POINTS 37

Wigan: Newcastle H WIN Norwich H WIN QPR A DRAW Swansea H DRAW West ham A DRAW Spurs H DRAW WBA A DRAW Arsenal A LOSE Villa H DRAW TOTAL POINTS 36

QPR: Sunderland H WIN Villa A DRAW Fulham A DRAW Wigan H WIN Everton A DRAW Stoke H WIN Reading A LOSE Arsenal H DRAW Newcastle H WIN Liverpool A LOSE TOTAL POINTS 36

Reading: Villa H WIN United A LOSE Arsenal A LOSE Saints H WIN Liverpool H DRAW Norwich A DRAW QPR H WIN Fulham A DRAW City H DRAW West ham A DRAW TOTAL POINTS 37

I can't see Villa winning at Stoke, highly unlikely, so make that a defeat. Nor can I see Wigan beating both Newcastle and Norwich at home (after their recent 4-0 home defeat). Make one of those a draw.

That leaves both Wigan and Villa on 34 points...

And QPR beating Sunderland, Wigan, Stoke and Newcastle, in between drawing at Villa, Fulham , Europe-chasing Everton and Arsenal? Any one of them (most likely most!) will be a defeat, putting them on 34 points max...