Federici - the best keeper in the Championship?

[Snowball]

How many of these supposed "camera saves" have gone in the net?

Just because the initial shot doesn't go in doesn't mean that it's okay. For example: 1) Keeper palms it out rather than catching it, lands to an attacker, he scores. 2) Keeper tips it over when he could have caught it, they score from the corner.

Not saying that those specific examples have happened with Feds but you can see my point.

YUP

The camera-save thing (and he DOES do it) is his last remaining imperfection.

Fedders is a good enough keeper to play at least top-half Premiership now.

He'd be a coupla per cent better without the occasional camera save

[pea]

He'd be a coupla per cent better without the occasional camera save

why?

[Snowball]

He'd be a coupla per cent better without the occasional camera save

why?

1% more Professionalism.

[Simon's Church]

How many of these supposed "camera saves" have gone in the net?

Just because the initial shot doesn't go in doesn't mean that it's okay. For example: 1) Keeper palms it out rather than catching it, lands to an attacker, he scores. 2) Keeper tips it over when he could have caught it, they score from the corner.

Not saying that those specific examples have happened with Feds but you can see my point.

YUP

The camera-save thing (and he DOES do it) is his last remaining imperfection.

Got any stats for that?

etc

[sandman]

They are not an imperfection Snowbell because as you pointed out the word "save" indicates that they did not go in so therefore he has done what he is paid to do by keeping the ball out of his net. The way you go on anyone would think he was doing the fcuking scorpian kick every game.

[Royal Rother]

[Hoop Blah]

I'm with snowball on this one. He does make some regulation saves look a bit more spectacular. Sometimes I guess that's just through flamboyance, sometimes it's possibly just his technique (eg, some keepers prefer going with the 'wrong hand' because it's stronger) and somethings it seems to be because he's a little out of position and so either scrambling a bit or having to dive that little more than perhaps he needs too.

Is it an issue? Depends really. Each of the above mean that at times he's going to be taking a greater risk of conceeding or spilling the ball for, as snowball has already said, another chance to be given to the opposition. That's a weakness that you'd hope he's working on in order to make himself an even better keeper.

The best keepers make difficult saves look easy because they're mroe often than not in excatly the right place at the rigth time and because they do the least risky option to keep the ball out.

Federici used to be a bit vunerable to long shots. That doesn't seem to have been as much of a problem over the last few months. I'm not sure if that's because we're conceeding less long shots or because his concentrating more and getting into a better positions.

[Mr Angry]

I'm with snowball on this one. He does make some regulation saves look a bit more spectacular. Sometimes I guess that's just through flamboyance, sometimes it's possibly just his technique (eg, some keepers prefer going with the 'wrong hand' because it's stronger) and somethings it seems to be because he's a little out of position and so either scrambling a bit or having to dive that little more than perhaps he needs too.

Is it an issue? Depends really. Each of the above mean that at times he's going to be taking a greater risk of conceeding or spilling the ball for, as snowball has already said, another chance to be given to the opposition. That's a weakness that you'd hope he's working on in order to make himself an even better keeper.

The best keepers make difficult saves look easy because they're mroe often than not in excatly the right place at the rigth time and because they do the least risky option to keep the ball out.

Federici used to be a bit vunerable to long shots. That doesn't seem to have been as much of a problem over the last few months. I'm not sure if that's because we're conceeding less long shots or because his concentrating more and getting into a better positions.

A couple of seasons ago, he would have missed the long-range piledriver from Vincente before we scored on Tues night.....

[If you still hate Futcher]

This is a growing trend amongst all keepers and I think it's more to do with the modern day football than the keeper showing off.

You don't tend to see many keepers catching the ball nowadays from shots which I think is down to the way it moves in the air. On Tuesday there was an example of this, Brighton had a shot from the edge of the area which 10-15 years ago I would expect a keeper to either catch or tip over. On this occasion though Feds blocked it with his forearms rather than using his hands, probably to make sure he got something behind it and it didn't move on him at the last minute.

[JimmytheJim]

Snowball is fast becoming the most bemusing self-parody the internet has ever seen.

[Snowball]

If Hoop and I agree it's fact.

[Snowball]

Funny how last season and a fair bit of this season there was a common, if not general
acceptance that Federici often made camera saves, now all of a sudden they are ignored.

[Simon's Church]

Funny how last season and a fair bit of this season there was a common, if not general
acceptance that Federici often made camera saves, now all of a sudden they are ignored.

It's because you managed to convince everyone that what you see with your eyes is actually bullshit.

[Mr Cinema]

Funny how last season and a fair bit of this season there was a common, if not general
acceptance that Federici often made camera saves, now all of a sudden they are ignored.

It's because you managed to convince everyone that what you see with your eyes is actually bullshit.

[royalsroyalsroyals92]

Although i agree there is the odd camera save (watford away this season being the last memorable one. Easy ball coming and a spectacular and unneccasery dive from feds), does it make him worse goalie?
He's kept us in so many games this year, i couldnt personally care yes if he wants to dive once in a while.
Does Roanldo need to do so many stepovers? No, but does it make him a worse player? no.
As long as he stops the ball going in the goal, i couldnt care less if he wanted to smoke cigars while playing

[Barry the bird boggler]

As long as he stops the ball going into the back of the net I couldn't give a monkey's if every save was a "camera save".

[HoneyRoastHoax]

agreed.

As long as he saves it he can do it how he likes.

No one complains when Messi turns it on so why not keepers

[arthurfondrelli]

At Brighton and West Ham I was sitting right behind the goal in which Feds did his warm up. Ball moved all over the place so keepers can't commit themselves too early which may make certain saves look like "camera saves"

[Hoop Blah]

Although i agree there is the odd camera save (watford away this season being the last memorable one. Easy ball coming and a spectacular and unneccasery dive from feds), does it make him worse goalie?
He's kept us in so many games this year, i couldnt personally care yes if he wants to dive once in a while.
Does Roanldo need to do so many stepovers? No, but does it make him a worse player? no.
As long as he stops the ball going in the goal, i couldnt care less if he wanted to smoke cigars while playing

Some of those step overs are probably unnecessary yes. The majority of them are done to unbalance his markers and get him past his man. That's quite different to a 'camera save' which, in some cases, is just over complicating his job to the extent that his performance can become less reliable.

Has that happened recently? Not sure. He's spilled a few recently yes, but I don't think they were from camera saves. How many corners has he conceeded from camera saves instead of collecting the ball more effectively? Probably a few here or there. They're opportunities for the opposition to score, so yes it's possible for camera saves to be making him a lesser keeper than he could be.

He's still doing a great job of course, but perhaps it could be better.

Not too long ago people were calling him the best keeper in the Championship etc etc. He didn't rest on his laurels then and has become a better keeper for it. I'd be amazed if he's not sitll looking to improve now as well.

[pea]

Anyone ever thought that due to his stature and background (he didn't come through the academy system so had to learn some more technical parts late) he has just got used to having to dive full stretch sometimes to compensate for his size/poor positioning. Its not showboating its just the way he has got used to playing his position, which he does very very well now, and the idea that he should try and relearn his trade because some keyboard warrior on a fan forum thinks he's showing off is an absurd suggestion.