The Snowball stat thread

[SLAMMED]

Seriously, why do you bother?

[Snowball]

Seriously, why do you bother?

For you, sweetness

[leicsRoyal]

For example, Reading FC have a very decent chance of finishing above Southampton
(RFC averaging almost 2 points per game, Saints 1.64 and seemed to have picked up, BTW)
but defeat at Saints would elevate Saints by "1.36 points" and knocks RFC back by 1.96, a
big turn round of 3 points,

Whatever happened to;

1 point for a draw
3 points for a win


By the time we play Southampton, there will be no need to worry about 1.96's, it will be a six pointer!

[Snowball]

AWAY GAMES v the Big Teams

Blackpool have just one and seven home games to do their damage!!

1 Blackpool
3 Cardiff
3 Brighton
3 Leicester
4 Birmingham
4 Hull
4 Middlesborough
4 Southampton
4 Burnley
5 Reading
5 West Ham
5 Leeds


Reading 5
Brighton V Reading
West Ham V Reading
Middlesbrough V Reading
Birmingham V Reading
Southampton V Reading

Leeds 5
Blackpool V Leeds United
Cardiff V Leeds United
Middlesbrough V Leeds United
Hull V Leeds United
Reading V Leeds United

West Ham 5
Blackpool V West Ham
Cardiff V West Ham
Burnley V West Ham
Leeds United V West Ham
Leicester V West Ham


Middlesborough 4
West Ham V Middlesbrough
Brighton V Middlesbrough
Birmingham V Middlesbrough
Hull V Middlesbrough



Southampton 4
Blackpool V Southampton
Middlesbrough V Southampton
Hull V Southampton
Leeds United V Southampton

Burnley 4
Blackpool V Burnley
Cardiff V Burnley
Leicester V Burnley
Reading V Burnley


Hull 4
Blackpool V Hull
West Ham V Hull
Cardiff V Hull
Leicester V Hull

Birmingham 4
West Ham V Birmingham
Brighton V Birmingham
Burnley V Birmingham
Leicester V Birmingham


Cardiff 3
Brighton V Cardiff
Middlesbrough V Cardiff
Birmingham V Cardiff


Brighton 3
Blackpool V Brighton
West Ham V Brighton
Burnley V Brighton

Leicester 3
Blackpool V Leicester
Leeds United V Leicester
Reading V Leicester

Blackpool 1
Reading V Blackpool

[Snowball]

TOTAL (HOME & AWAY) Games v Contenders

Corrected (Missed some Leicester Games)

Although games against rivals are an opportunity to put the knife in
it's reasonable to expect fewer points per game on average

IMO it looks like closing right up and best bets for top two (odds-wise) right now are Southampton and Birmingham

West Ham have TEN of their last 16 against the biggies compared with Southampton's five games.

So not unreasonable to expect Saints to gain 5 points on West Ham by season's end
(but weighted against that is WHU's game in hand). If Saints have stabilised I expect
it to go to the last day, and it wouldn't surprise me to see four, even five clubs in with
a shout of top spot on the last day of the season

Saints have a real chance of finishing above West Ham as things now stand (if their form has really turned).

Reading have the second-worst run-in (9 tough games) and are going to have to pull of 1-2 big results like a win at Saints, Bru, WHU.

Blackpool, tho' they have 8 tough games have 7 of them at home and could do a lot of damage (helping us)



Toughest Finish at the Top

10 Total 5 Home 5 Away West Ham
09 Total 4 Home 5 Away Reading
08 Total 3 Home 5 Away Leeds
08 Total 4 Home 4 Away Middlesborough
08 Total 7 Home 1 Away Blackpool
07 Total 4 Home 3 Away Leicester
07 Total 4 Home 3 Away Cardiff
07 Total 4 Home 3 Away Brighton
07 Total 3 Home 4 Away Burnley
07 Total 3 Home 4 Away Birmingham
07 Total 3 Home 4 Away Hull
05 Total 1 Home 4 Away Southampton

[Snowball]

Without any sarcasm or intent at all: these three posts have genuinely been the first times I consider you to have posted something interesting and worthwhile.

Snowball 1-0 Sebastian, then.

[SydenhamRoyal]

Reading 30 16 58 if we'd scored all our penalties, and not had the Palace goal disallowed
West Ham 30 16 57
Southampton 31 22 56
Cardiff 31 14 53
Blackpool 31 14 52
Birmingham 30 20 51
Reading 30 11 51 cos we can't score our penalties, and had the Palace goal disallowed

[SydenhamRoyal]

Did I miss Griffin's and Tabb's goals?

Thanks


Oops, dodgy cut-and-paste-then-edit

their overall figures were correct (now fixed)

no worries

[Snowball]

30 16 58 Reading - - - if we'd scored all our penalties, and not had the Palace goal disallowed
30 16 57 West Ham

You could throw in the goal at Blackpool where the ref
admitted (later) that it was a good goal

[Snowball]

Cheers

[SydenhamRoyal]

30 16 58 Reading - - - if we'd scored all our penalties, and not had the Palace goal disallowed
30 16 57 West Ham

You could throw in the goal at Blackpool where the ref
admitted (later) that it was a good goal

The reason I chose the Palace goal was it was the final seconds. The Blackpool one anything was first half I think - so hard to tell what outcome would have been.

[SydenhamRoyal]

Form since home defeat to Watford
Pld GF GA GD Pts
Reading 24 33 19 14 47
Bham 25 39 20 19 44
West Ham 24 32 24 8 44
Cardiff 25 41 30 11 42
Burnley 26 39 28 11 42
Saints 25 39 24 15 41
Blackpool 25 44 33 11 41

And if form is replicated til end of season ...

Pts GD
West Ham 86.33 21.33
Reading 82.33 20.33
Saints 80.60 31.00
Bham 79.16 32.16
Cardiff 78.20 20.60
Hull 77.33 11.33
Blackpool 76.60 20.60

[Snowball]

30 16 58 Reading - - - if we'd scored all our penalties, and not had the Palace goal disallowed
30 16 57 West Ham

You could throw in the goal at Blackpool where the ref
admitted (later) that it was a good goal

The reason I chose the Palace goal was it was the final seconds. The Blackpool one anything was first half I think - so hard to tell what outcome would have been.

Agreed (I didn't go) but from reports (and the ref actually apologised) we were wll on top
and probably, if the goal had been given would have gone on to win.

That 6 point turn round might yet cost us dearly

[Snowball]

Form since home defeat to Watford
Pld GF GA GD Pts
Reading 24 33 19 14 47
Bham 25 39 20 19 44
West Ham 24 32 24 8 44
Cardiff 25 41 30 11 42
Burnley 26 39 28 11 42
Saints 25 39 24 15 41
Blackpool 25 44 33 11 41

And if form is replicated til end of season ...

Pts GD
West Ham 86.33 21.33
Reading 82.33 20.33
Saints 80.60 31.00
Bham 79.16 32.16
Cardiff 78.20 20.60
Hull 77.33 11.33
Blackpool 76.60 20.60

Not disagreeing with this (excluding decimal goals of course) but the closer we get to the end
the dodgier the stats will become.

That might seem odd, but spread over 40 games, losing a game early on (eg West Ham lost 3-0 to us)
the loss can be "amortized" over a fair number of games, but a late defeat to a rival (or beating one) can
have a huge immediate effect. (eg if West Ham beat us or vice-versa it might be hugely expensive to the club)

[Wycombe Royal]

One thing I can say for certain is that we won't get 82.33 points.

[Snowball]

One thing I can say for certain is that we won't get 82.33 points.

I think he knows that, Wyc

[Wycombe Royal]

One thing I can say for certain is that we won't get 82.33 points.

I think he knows that, Wyc

You don't get sarcasm do you?

[Snowball]

One thing I can say for certain is that we won't get 82.33 points.

I think he knows that, Wyc

You don't get sarcasm do you?

You don't get sarcasm do you, Wyc?

[Wycombe Royal]

Another attempted cover up.

[melonhead]

since sarcasm is usually saying the opposite of what you mean, with some vocal inflection that signals the sarcasm to the hearer, its easy to understand why it is difficult to pick up on it in plain text.