Rodgers is still the right man

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Re: Rodgers is still the right man

by handbags_harris » 08 Dec 2009 23:54

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floyd__streete The only thing keeping me going through this wretchedly awful season is the thought that every passing game brings us closer to the eventual departure of Brendan Rodgers.


I think Rodgers is doing a good job with what he has available. He has also been unlucky with injuries to our attackers. He is an easy target right now but if he gets the chance I still think he will be a great manager for us.


He is doing a quite pathetic job. His tactical alterations to starting lineups are baffling, his defence couldn't defend Colditz Castle, and he has had oodles of time to get strikers in on loan but has resisted the temptation. Injuries, yeah, a couple, but how do you explain Shane Long's utter selfishness at Derby?

In short, your post is utter drivel.

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Re: Rodgers is still the right man

by FiNeRaIn » 08 Dec 2009 23:55

andrew1957
floyd__streete The only thing keeping me going through this wretchedly awful season is the thought that every passing game brings us closer to the eventual departure of Brendan Rodgers.


I think Rodgers is doing a good job with what he has available..


LOL! The comical ali of HNA.


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Re: Rodgers is still the right man

by Focher » 09 Dec 2009 00:01

i think the question that needs answering is, in hindsight, who better than Rodgers AT THE TIME, would have taken the Reading job knowing what was gonna happen to our 'best' players?

I still honestly think he can do good things at this club, and i hope he can learn from the massive f'uck ups he is making at the moment.

At this moment in time i still blame Coppell (legend), and last seasons crop of players, for totally f'ucking up the 2nd half of last season, from the position we were in, that was criminal.

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Re: Rodgers is still the right man

by rob the royal » 09 Dec 2009 01:15

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He is doing a quite pathetic job. His tactical alterations to starting lineups are baffling and his defence couldn't defend Colditz Castle



What we need is those guys who defend Takeshi's Castle... NOBODY ever wins that gameshow. Baron something... not sure about the others... Matt Mills and Darren O'Dea maybe? :lol:

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Re: Rodgers is still the right man

by Archie's penalty » 09 Dec 2009 01:18

loyalroyal4life enjoy it while it lasts 8)


It didn't :|


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Re: Rodgers is still the right man

by FiNeRaIn » 09 Dec 2009 02:23

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He is doing a quite pathetic job. His tactical alterations to starting lineups are baffling and his defence couldn't defend Colditz Castle



What we need is those guys who defend Takeshi's Castle.


lmao, best game show ever.

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Re: Rodgers is still the right man

by rhroyal » 09 Dec 2009 05:11

This board over reacts a lot. I know why. Those critical of Rodgers or supporting him only normally come out when the evidence backs up their argument. Where were Ideal and RL after we beat Sheff Wed? Where is W_R now? Well I'm going to break the trend. I still support Rodgers after a bad performance last night. Reasons:

1) He has been, and still is learning. We've already seen him learn that changing the team and formation on a weekly basis is not a clever idea. He's learnt to settle down now. Our team will nearly always involve the following:

Feds (after last night it might change), Tabb, Pearce and Ivar (this will however be coming up in my concerns), McAnuff, Rasiak/Church, Matejovsky, Bertrand and The Sig (maybe he was rested last night or something). Since learning to settle the team down we've improved.

2) Things really have improved. After QPR we had 10 points from 13 games. We've now had 10 from that last 7. That's almost twice as good, in fact it will be if we beat Scunthorpe on Saturday. I view QPR as the lowest ebb and the turning point, since then it has picked up. No arguments. Our more recent form is similar to that of 03/04 and 04/05. Mid table pretenders flirting with the play-offs. Our only consistency is our inconsistency.

3) Things should improve further. As I have already stated, he is still learning. So is our team. We already have the "link" striker he wanted arriving in January which will hopefully aid our cause. I won't count my chickens yet, every signing is a gamble and it's foolish to expect too much.

4) The players like and respect him. You can see it from every interview. They want to win for themselves, the team, the fans but equally they don't want to lose their manager. I think there is a positive atmosphere at the club. Sacking Rodgers could well lose this. Then we'll really be in the brown stuff.

Causes for concern

1) Ivar and Pearce. Very slow between them and hardly proving to be water tight. O'Dea is supposedly a real coup and in reality too good to be with us. Likewise Mills was highly rated when we signed him from Doncaster and cost £2mill. Read comments on this board when we signed him - people were pleased. Changes should be made. Serious question marks over Fed too, is Hamer ready?

2) Still some erratic decision making. Why was the Sig dropped for Gunnarsson yesterday? Maybe it was down to fitness. Either way putting in a 2nd defensive midfielder for a home game when we're playing 1 up front - on the back of 10 points from 5 games - is not a good decision. Who else? I think Kebe could be worth a punt as a support striker in a free role, with HRK on the wing. His subs are also erratic. It gives the impression he doesn't think about them, he just has a blind stab and hopes it works. This too will come with experience.

3) Stats can lie. 10 points from 7 games. Leicester and Blackpool (and now Palace but only after they beat us) are the only top half sides in that run. What happens after January where we have a run of tougher games? This is by far my biggest concern.

4) Inconsistency. Will this slowly be eradicated as the team grows together? If we can pick up 2 straight wins anywhere this could make a difference in terms of confidence etc.

Despite last night, I still see an upward trend. Relegation to League 1 is unthinkable for this club considering the progress this decade. If I think that there's a strong possibility I will turn on Rodgers. I was against him after QPR, I wanted him out. However now we're capable of scoring goals and winning games (still got 2 last night). The team has bad days, but they also have good days and we win on the majority of them.

You may have guess I'm fairly borderline. For now I have confidence in Rodgers. A shocker against Scunthorpe will really test that. Lets hope the team right last night's performance.

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Re: Rodgers is still the right man

by Ryn » 09 Dec 2009 07:58

If I had a pound for every time I heard "We're too good to go down" I would have more money than I do now.

We're not too good, we're shit, and exposed last night by one good player in Victor Moses. Colin had done his homework and proceeded to butt fuk us into the floor.

We have an inexperienced manager, a poor team and a chairman with no ambition. If we manage to stay up it will be through no effort of our own, it will be because there is a massive lack in quality in this league this year and that there were three teams even more awful than us.

It isn't going to get better this year even if we change the manager, give him £20million to spend, and have Peter Jones from Dragon's Den take over the club.

However, changing the manager would be a good start, we might be able to consolidate this club, hang on in this league and build on it for next season.

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Re: Rodgers is still the right man

by ROKERITE » 09 Dec 2009 09:08

Ofcourse he's still the right man. He's only been in charge since the Summer. The pathetic Pavlovian response to any set-back is ridiculous. The season isn't even half over. Rodgers should, and from what we're told will, remain Reading Manager until the end of this season at least. If Reading are relegated in May there's a good chance Rodgers will be fired. However, Reading are NOT going down. I still expect Rodgers' Reading to finish comfortably clear of the drop zone, and challenge for the play-offs 2010-11.
Roy Keane took over at Ipswich before the end of last season. He had all the close season, and a big budget, to get his squad in the shape he wanted for a promotion challenge. They've won 2 matches this season out of 20. Yet there's no clamour for his dismissal. Brian Laws has has had three years to sort out Sheffield WEdnesday; where are they? Like Ipswich Town they're below Reading; but only now are the (quite justifiable) demands for him to go becoming overwhelming. Football fans these days are generally pretty pathetic, with the patience of two year olds in tantrums, but some of you lot really take the Biscuit.


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Re: Rodgers is still the right man

by The Real Sandhurst Royal » 09 Dec 2009 09:14

ROKERITE wrote:
I still expect Rodgers' Reading to.. challenge for the play-offs 2010-11.


You may be correct ROKERITE - it will be the League 1 play off's losing to Aldershot in the final.

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Re: Rodgers is still the right man

by Sarah Star » 09 Dec 2009 09:16

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ROKERITE wrote:
I still expect Rodgers' Reading to.. challenge for the play-offs 2010-11.


You may be correct ROKERITE - it will be the League 1 play off's losing to Aldershot in the final.

That is the only thing you can challenge him on though. The rest looks pretty much correct to me.

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Re: Rodgers is still the right man

by Royal Lady » 09 Dec 2009 09:45

I didn't post after Sheff Wed game because I wasn't there, haven't seen the goals and can, therefore, make no comment on whether it was a good win or not.

Great, we won that game, but until we can have some sort of stability and grind out results week in, week out I'm not going to get over excited.

I have made a comment or two about last night's game, because I was there. HTH.

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Re: Rodgers is still the right man

by Focher » 09 Dec 2009 09:51

Royal Lady I have made a comment or two about last night's game, because I was there. HTH.

i know, i saw you. I was hidden in the ventilation system above the ladies lavatory.


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Re: Rodgers is still the right man

by winchester_royal » 09 Dec 2009 09:54

rhroyal This board over reacts a lot. I know why. Those critical of Rodgers or supporting him only normally come out when the evidence backs up their argument. Where were Ideal and RL after we beat Sheff Wed? Where is W_R now? Well I'm going to break the trend. I still support Rodgers after a bad performance last night. Reasons:

1) He has been, and still is learning. We've already seen him learn that changing the team and formation on a weekly basis is not a clever idea. He's learnt to settle down now. Our team will nearly always involve the following:

Feds (after last night it might change), Tabb, Pearce and Ivar (this will however be coming up in my concerns), McAnuff, Rasiak/Church, Matejovsky, Bertrand and The Sig (maybe he was rested last night or something). Since learning to settle the team down we've improved.

2) Things really have improved. After QPR we had 10 points from 13 games. We've now had 10 from that last 7. That's almost twice as good, in fact it will be if we beat Scunthorpe on Saturday. I view QPR as the lowest ebb and the turning point, since then it has picked up. No arguments. Our more recent form is similar to that of 03/04 and 04/05. Mid table pretenders flirting with the play-offs. Our only consistency is our inconsistency.

3) Things should improve further. As I have already stated, he is still learning. So is our team. We already have the "link" striker he wanted arriving in January which will hopefully aid our cause. I won't count my chickens yet, every signing is a gamble and it's foolish to expect too much.

4) The players like and respect him. You can see it from every interview. They want to win for themselves, the team, the fans but equally they don't want to lose their manager. I think there is a positive atmosphere at the club. Sacking Rodgers could well lose this. Then we'll really be in the brown stuff.

Causes for concern

1) Ivar and Pearce. Very slow between them and hardly proving to be water tight. O'Dea is supposedly a real coup and in reality too good to be with us. Likewise Mills was highly rated when we signed him from Doncaster and cost £2mill. Read comments on this board when we signed him - people were pleased. Changes should be made. Serious question marks over Fed too, is Hamer ready?

2) Still some erratic decision making. Why was the Sig dropped for Gunnarsson yesterday? Maybe it was down to fitness. Either way putting in a 2nd defensive midfielder for a home game when we're playing 1 up front - on the back of 10 points from 5 games - is not a good decision. Who else? I think Kebe could be worth a punt as a support striker in a free role, with HRK on the wing. His subs are also erratic. It gives the impression he doesn't think about them, he just has a blind stab and hopes it works. This too will come with experience.

3) Stats can lie. 10 points from 7 games. Leicester and Blackpool (and now Palace but only after they beat us) are the only top half sides in that run. What happens after January where we have a run of tougher games? This is by far my biggest concern.

4) Inconsistency. Will this slowly be eradicated as the team grows together? If we can pick up 2 straight wins anywhere this could make a difference in terms of confidence etc.

Despite last night, I still see an upward trend. Relegation to League 1 is unthinkable for this club considering the progress this decade. If I think that there's a strong possibility I will turn on Rodgers. I was against him after QPR, I wanted him out. However now we're capable of scoring goals and winning games (still got 2 last night). The team has bad days, but they also have good days and we win on the majority of them.

You may have guess I'm fairly borderline. For now I have confidence in Rodgers. A shocker against Scunthorpe will really test that. Lets hope the team right last night's performance.


At the time of posting I was in bed.

HTH. :roll:

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Re: Rodgers is still the right man

by rhroyal » 09 Dec 2009 09:56

Fair play, I do sometimes forget the 8 hours time difference.

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Re: Rodgers is still the right man

by Forbury Lion » 09 Dec 2009 09:57

Rogers is the right man at the wrong time with the wrong club and the wrong players.

In this case, four wrongs may make a right.

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Re: Rodgers is still the right man

by winchester_royal » 09 Dec 2009 10:05

TBF though, I'm so pissed off with yesterday's team selection I can't even be bothered to defend him.

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Re: Rodgers is still the right man

by Forbury Lion » 09 Dec 2009 10:06

winchester_royal TBF though, I'm so pissed off with yesterday's team selection I can't even be bothered to defend him.
That's a shame cos he's looking for a good defender... and a keeper, striker midfielder.

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Re: Rodgers is still the right man

by howser » 09 Dec 2009 10:07

I would just like to hear the egomonsters take on the present situation, but as we all know he only comes out when we are doing well, and can take all the "brick-by-brick" adulation, you never see or hear from him when times arnt so good.

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Re: Rodgers is still the right man

by Hoop Blah » 09 Dec 2009 10:15

For all those criticising Rodgers for last night, bear in mind that apart from Federici we were the better team in the first half.

We're the home side and so should be taking the game to Palace, so that should be expected, even if Palace are a decent side and we're still a side coming to terms with, but we looked pretty decent. Federici cost us that game last night though through individual mistakes (because like a few of the other players in our squad he isn't good enough to consistently perform at a high enough level).

From 2 to 10 we did ok. Tabb got the run around a bit, but apart from Federici and Kebe we performed ok.

Rodgers last throw of the dice to go three at the back was desperation though, and was always going to leave us exposed at the back. When you're two goals down at home you have to throw the kitchen sink at it though, and to be fair it almost came off with the penalty giving us a bit of a life line.

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