Rodgers Revolution

[roberto_11]

As Rodgers has said, its a 3 year plan. If we are not back in the Prem in 3 years he has probably done a bad job. But untill then, its an exciting time of change. Yes Coppell brought amazing success but the last 2 years were basically a shambles as we clung on like limpets to our old 106 team.

[Ian Royal]

Loving Donfers foray onto the team board.

I was expecting us to push promotion close the year we went up for what it's worth. I knew we had a better chance than previous seasons anyway. And laughed when I saw our odds at 20-1 in one of the season previews.

Oh, and I knew we were in for a good season even when we lost against Plymouth because I thought we were unlucky, but played positively. And of course, because Harper made two or three tackles. That was the key for me, he wasn't just being crab man.

Think we're missing a spine for the team, we have individual vertibra, they just don't all connect to make a complete back bone. But I think we've got a fair chance of making it through this season ok. Then we'll have 3 or 4 seasons of trying to find that mercurial mix which will click just right and propel us up once more. We certainly won't need to do massive rebuilding work for quite some time again.

[The Quiet Man]

Three years sounds about right for a rebuild. Rogers will have got us to the prem or he will be gone and I'd expect SJM to call it a day after three years whether we are going up or going nowhere. Plenty of time to find out if Rodgers is a tactical genius or a supreme coaching manual bullshitter, what more excitement could you want?

[Royalee]

I can’t wait for the international break to be over.

I am totally behind Rodgers and his plans to shape Reading into a young, dynamic squad, building good relationships with the top SPL & Premier league clubs for loan & buying purposes just like our competitors have done and where we have failed in the past.

Rodgers has spent most of his career to date working and developing youth players for both us and Chelsea. I can fully understand his ideas and I am just thankful we have a manager who knows something about young talent, where to look for it and finally how to get the best from them!!!!

I’m sad to see the back of SSC promotion boys and I was scared that we were loosing our identity that we had worked hard to achieve. I may temporarily miss the period where if I mention Reading FC to my mates, automatically they come up with the names of Doyle, Hunt, Lita, Bikey, and obviously Coppel but I also appreciate this has now happened and look forward to the new era under what could be the greatest ever manager Reading FC has ever seen.

Im a loyal royal and although these past couple of months have been a roller coaster im excited about what’s to come.
COME ON URZZZZZZZ

Good post.

[Royalee]

When are some of you going to realise that when the club talk about their aspirations, i'e get back in the premier league, be a stable premiership club, be as big as arsenal etc these are goals for the long term and they will take as long as they take. Have some patience and just enjoy the bloody football will you. I'll take the long game over the short game any day. Far more interesting.

Spot on.

[Millsy]

When are some of you going to realise that when the club talk about their aspirations, i'e get back in the premier league, be a stable premiership club, be as big as arsenal etc these are goals for the long term and they will take as long as they take. Have some patience and just enjoy the bloody football will you. I'll take the long game over the short game any day. Far more interesting.

Spot on.

+1

[FiNeRaIn]

When are some of you going to realise that when the club talk about their aspirations, i'e get back in the premier league, be a stable premiership club, be as big as arsenal etc these are goals for the long term and they will take as long as they take. Have some patience and just enjoy the bloody football will you. I'll take the long game over the short game any day. Far more interesting.

Spot on.

Not really- we spent years building to get to the prem...brick by brick.. a gradual well run process. Surely the long term plan was to stay there...not fvck it all up and start form square one again? If so, this isn't effective in business or football terms.

[ZacNaloen]

The long term plan is to be established in the premiership.

What's inbetween is always going to be fuzzy, because you will always have unforeseen events.

The club doesn't have the alternative income (I.e large fan base or other contributory income [sheff utd]) that some other clubs do to be able to safely bet the farm on staying up and come out of it in good shape if it goes tits up. Financially we are still very small time and we have a owner who doesn't like debt.

A few relegations along the way, if it can be avoided great, can still a part of the plan and a contingency plan can be prepared.


If we can get back up straight away, great, if not the club clearly had a plan for that also. The drastic readjustment of the wage structure was clearly pre-planned to fill what would have been a fairly painful looking hole in our budget in same year as our final parachute payment, not after.

We can now use the money we have earned this year to contribute towards the next three years as we try to build for promotion again without having to worry about interest on debt clawing away at the clubs meager revenues.

[Royalee]

When are some of you going to realise that when the club talk about their aspirations, i'e get back in the premier league, be a stable premiership club, be as big as arsenal etc these are goals for the long term and they will take as long as they take. Have some patience and just enjoy the bloody football will you. I'll take the long game over the short game any day. Far more interesting.

Spot on.

Not really- we spent years building to get to the prem...brick by brick.. a gradual well run process. Surely the long term plan was to stay there...not fvck it all up and start form square one again? If so, this isn't effective in business or football terms.

Rodgers and the youngsters represent the brick by brick aspect of the approach, plus the average age of the players we are bringing in.

[Terminal Boardom]

Rodgers and the youngsters represent the brick by brick aspect of the approach, plus the average age of the players we are bringing in.

A brick by brick approach would introduce 1 or 2 youngsters at a time. This is a brickworks in comparison. 3 years is the minimumthat it will take because of the lack of experience and cohesion. How many players do we have on our books with over 100 appearances for Reading? Ivar? Bryn? Admittedly Rasiak, McAnuff and Howard bring experience with them but they still have to bed in WITHOUT THE BENEFIT OF A PRE SEASON.

[M Brook]

So wot

well never win anything wiv a team of chelski rejects and playas who cudn't even make it into championship teams. Wheres da money gon? we cant be that bad off if we canlet our to best palyas go for nuthing.

ROGERS OUT
MADJESKI OUT
HAMMOND OUT

can someone please translate this for me? call me old fashioned but I recognise the letters just not the words they've created??

They are words - the words of an illiterate half-wit who is best ignored. Mind you, he probably got straight As for his A Levels!

[ZacNaloen]

Rodgers and the youngsters represent the brick by brick aspect of the approach, plus the average age of the players we are bringing in.

A brick by brick approach would introduce 1 or 2 youngsters at a time. This is a brickworks in comparison. 3 years is the minimumthat it will take because of the lack of experience and cohesion. How many players do we have on our books with over 100 appearances for Reading? Ivar? Bryn? Admittedly Rasiak, McAnuff and Howard bring experience with them but they still have to bed in WITHOUT THE BENEFIT OF A PRE SEASON.

You aren't getting it are you?

If we'd have tried to do that we'd have bankrupted the club.

This summer was about readjusting the wage structure down, A LOT, to make the next few years affordable and starting from an affordable position.

[FiNeRaIn]

Bankrupted the club??????

How the does one of the least spending clubs the prem has ever seen nearly go bankrupt despite trawling in fvcking millions on tv money, increased season ticket prices, parachute payments,etc

We were that badly manged they pissed the money away?

[Royalee]

Rodgers and the youngsters represent the brick by brick aspect of the approach, plus the average age of the players we are bringing in.

A brick by brick approach would introduce 1 or 2 youngsters at a time. This is a brickworks in comparison. 3 years is the minimumthat it will take because of the lack of experience and cohesion. How many players do we have on our books with over 100 appearances for Reading? Ivar? Bryn? Admittedly Rasiak, McAnuff and Howard bring experience with them but they still have to bed in WITHOUT THE BENEFIT OF A PRE SEASON.

Rodgers has worked with every player he has signed before aside from Mills who has already settled and O'Dea so I'm not convinced your lack of cohesion argument stands up.

Teams with loads of players with hundreds of games on the books of the club are usually those which stand still or go backwards. Take a look at all the players we signed without your glorious experience when we last went up.

[ZacNaloen]

Big wages, meager income.

I'm not going into anymore detail because I've seen it explained to you at least twice, therefore I can only conclude you are either thick (which you aren't) or you are trying to wind someone up.

[Terminal Boardom]

Rodgers and the youngsters represent the brick by brick aspect of the approach, plus the average age of the players we are bringing in.

A brick by brick approach would introduce 1 or 2 youngsters at a time. This is a brickworks in comparison. 3 years is the minimumthat it will take because of the lack of experience and cohesion. How many players do we have on our books with over 100 appearances for Reading? Ivar? Bryn? Admittedly Rasiak, McAnuff and Howard bring experience with them but they still have to bed in WITHOUT THE BENEFIT OF A PRE SEASON.

You aren't getting it are you?

If we'd have tried to do that we'd have bankrupted the club.

This summer was about readjusting the wage structure down, A LOT, to make the next few years affordable and starting from an affordable position.

I suggest Zac that you read Royalee's comments THEN read mine. I am commenting on a brick by brick approach. What's your definition of a brick by brick approach then? And don't give me this guff about bankrupting the club. Do you know the inside financial workings and mechanics of Reading FC let alone SJM Enterprises? Nether do I which is why I am looking forward to being blinded with bullshit when the club tries to explain where the money has gone.

You know what? I accept what is going on because there is Feck all I can do about it. I don't have a spare 20 billion burning a hole in my back pocket. But I will moan about it because I can!

[Yellowcoat]

Moan about it as much as you like but it only shows you are as out of touch as Fine Rain who despite the financial position being explained to him many times still rants on about many missing millions.

[ZacNaloen]

I suggest Zac that you read Royalee's comments THEN read mine. I am commenting on a brick by brick approach. What's your definition of a brick by brick approach then? And don't give me this guff about bankrupting the club. Do you know the inside financial workings and mechanics of Reading FC let alone SJM Enterprises? Nether do I which is why I am looking forward to being blinded with bullshit when the club tries to explain where the money has gone.

You know what? I accept what is going on because there is Feck all I can do about it. I don't have a spare 20 billion burning a hole in my back pocket. But I will moan about it because I can!

My idea on the brick by brick approach is no different to yours, if you read my other posts that would have been obvious.

However, using available accounts information on wages it's actually quite easy and very basic mathematics to determine that there would have been a huge hole in the budget if the wage structure (even with the 40% cut off last year) stayed the same again this year.

That said we are bloody lucky we have the academy product we do this year it's made this very necessary sell off much easier to swallow, otherwise we could well have ended up in the kind of dire straights watford are. Having to sell an entire team and having no one of any quality to replace them with. Difference there though being that we could have afforded at least some people in and have done, they can't. Bankruptcy maybe hyperbole, but Watford can't be far off it. They've offloaded all their talent and have found themselves still unable to buy in. That's a real club in trouble.

[Terminal Boardom]

Rodgers and the youngsters represent the brick by brick aspect of the approach, plus the average age of the players we are bringing in.

A brick by brick approach would introduce 1 or 2 youngsters at a time. This is a brickworks in comparison. 3 years is the minimumthat it will take because of the lack of experience and cohesion. How many players do we have on our books with over 100 appearances for Reading? Ivar? Bryn? Admittedly Rasiak, McAnuff and Howard bring experience with them but they still have to bed in WITHOUT THE BENEFIT OF A PRE SEASON.

Rodgers has worked with every player he has signed before aside from Mills who has already settled and O'Dea so I'm not convinced your lack of cohesion argument stands up.

Teams with loads of players with hundreds of games on the books of the club are usually those which stand still or go backwards. Take a look at all the players we signed without your glorious experience when we last went up.

Yes, Let's! The start of 2005-06 had:
Marcus - with us since promotion
Murts - longest serving player on the books
Ivar - SSC's first signing 2-3 years earlier?
Sonks - had 1 season at least
Shorey - Grown with the club from L1 days into one of the most reliable and consistent players ever
Blakey - Shit loads of experience with Burnley before joining us
Sidders and Harps - Harps got promoted from L2 and Sidders joined one or two seasons later
Convey - Second season with us
Lita - NEW SIGNING with no experience of CCC
Kitson - Been with us for at least 2 seasons or so

The best of the rest:
Bryn - loads of experience with Forest, Stoke and Watford
Doyle - NEW SIGNING, no english experience. Total unknown
Hunt - NEW SIGNING and fringe player at best
Oster - NEW SIGNING and fringe player at best (ex Sunderland & Everton) experienced!
Makin - NEW SIGNING but with plenty of experience at Leicester among others
Long - NEW SIGNING, no english experience. Total unknown

No doubt there are others I have missed out but the vast majority of the starting XI had been with us for some time or had plenty of CCC experience. Added to which was the inexperience of Doyle, Lita and Sonko who all blossomed during that season.What we had was a good mix of youth and experience.

[winchester_royal]

Isn't it all sooooo exciting though.......

With Copps we were used to a conservative transfer policy, rigid formations, frustratingly consistent team selection, and very little youth involvement. Yes we were succesful, yes we played some nice football for a couple of seasons, but it really was rather dull.

Rodgers is sticking his neck out and trying to create something special at the club, and I'm looking forward to the journey we're about to embark on.