New signings

[Royalwaster]

READING have continued their mission of investing in players from Yorkshire clubs with the signing of ex-Barnsley Forward Jan Åge Fjørtoft.

Strong rumours of Ian Ormondroyd joining too.

Jostein Flo might be on his way.

Just saw Robbie Fowler in the car park!

[(.)Boobies(.)]

So let me just check what has happened so far.

We got relegated from the Prem, and then choked the playoffs. So a lot of folks on
here called for Coppell to go. In amongst this time, a bucket load of players got
slaughtered (Murty, Hannaman, Duberry, Lita, Rosenior, Shunt, Harper to name a few).

So the club brought a young-ish manager in, and are trying something different. A lot of
the 'old guard' have gone, and hand on heart has Harper REALLY played that well recently ?
Are we REALLY going to miss Rosenior ?
Rightly or wrongly, Rodgers and the board are trying something different. Mills, Cummins, O'Dea
will be busting a gut to do well here. And for the first time in a while, we are seeing players come
through from the Academy. Will it work ? Who knows. I for one think it is a breath of fresh air, and whilst
I appreciate what Harper, USA, Doyle, Murty etc etc did for Reading FC it is time to move on.
This is part of what following your club is about. Good luck to you Rodgers. Let's start a new chapter,

Happy to see the back of those senior players you mentioned. What concerns me is why we loaned out Harper and Rosenior to our rivals instead of trying to get a permanent £? Especially as both are out of contract next Summer

Harper has a 60% sell on clause? His wages are not much less than 20k a week. We save about £800k by loaning him out, or we could sell for what was said to be about £1.8m - 60%. Together the football club have saved £3m by letting these two go. That's what it comes down to.

[Royalwaster]

Harper has a 60% sell on clause? His wages are not much less than 20k a week. We save about £800k by loaning him out, or we could sell for what was said to be about £1.8m - 60%. Together the football club have saved £3m by letting these two go. That's what it comes down to.[/quote]

I'd say worth pasting your message into every thread - as it is pretty much the only one that makes sense.

[TFF]

So let me just check what has happened so far.

We got relegated from the Prem, and then choked the playoffs. So a lot of folks on
here called for Coppell to go. In amongst this time, a bucket load of players got
slaughtered (Murty, Hannaman, Duberry, Lita, Rosenior, Shunt, Harper to name a few).

So the club brought a young-ish manager in, and are trying something different. A lot of
the 'old guard' have gone, and hand on heart has Harper REALLY played that well recently ?
Are we REALLY going to miss Rosenior ?
Rightly or wrongly, Rodgers and the board are trying something different. Mills, Cummins, O'Dea
will be busting a gut to do well here. And for the first time in a while, we are seeing players come
through from the Academy. Will it work ? Who knows. I for one think it is a breath of fresh air, and whilst
I appreciate what Harper, USA, Doyle, Murty etc etc did for Reading FC it is time to move on.
This is part of what following your club is about. Good luck to you Rodgers. Let's start a new chapter,

Happy to see the back of those senior players you mentioned. What concerns me is why we loaned out Harper and Rosenior to our rivals instead of trying to get a permanent £? Especially as both are out of contract next Summer

I would imagine the 40% sell on clause we'd owe Arsenal made just getting him off the wage roll a more attractive proposition. Rosenior's a bit of an odd one, but if BR plans to play Cummings I can't imagine Liam sitting quietly in the ressies. Prob best out so as not to rock the boat.

Certainly brave of Brendan to make the team his own so quickly. He's got nowhere to hide if things don't work out.

[RoyalBlue]

Harper has a 60% sell on clause? His wages are not much less than 20k a week. We save about £800k by loaning him out, or we could sell for what was said to be about £1.8m - 60%. Together the football club have saved £3m by letting these two go. That's what it comes down to.

I'd say worth pasting your message into every thread - as it is pretty much the only one that makes sense.[/quote]

Only it doesn't make sense at all. It seems to overlook the fact that if we were to sell Harper we would still save his wages!

[papereyes]

Happy to see the back of those senior players you mentioned. What concerns me is why we loaned out Harper and Rosenior to our rivals instead of trying to get a permanent £? Especially as both are out of contract next Summer

With less than a year to go on their contract, I'd imagine we'd get very little for them anyway.

Rivals bit is a bit harder to justify, mind.

[rotherwick_royal]

I would imagine the 40% sell on clause we'd owe Arsenal made just getting him off the wage roll a more attractive proposition.

Well I'mm no rocket scientist, but isn't 60% out of £2 million a whole lot more than £0?? which seems to be what we're getting for him by loaning him out.

I guess once Wolves walked away there was nobody else in for him. Financially this is the next best thing.

[TFF]

What £2million?

Not being picked in our starting XI, not match fit and in the last year of his contract. No way he was worth that much. The figures mentioned in the Wolves deal were pure speculation.

A loan move to a competitive team would appeal to him and save us (a large slice of) his wages. Listing him at £2M and sitting him in the reserves while we wait for even lower bids in January wouldn't make much sense.

[(.)Boobies(.)]

Only it doesn't make sense at all. It seems to overlook the fact that if we were to sell Harper we would still save his wages!

You're stating the obvious. No one offered us money for Harper apart from Wolves, and that fell through. Plan B - loan him out and save the considerable wages he was on.

[Deadlock]

I would imagine the 40% sell on clause we'd owe Arsenal made just getting him off the wage roll a more attractive proposition.

Well I'mm no rocket scientist, but isn't 60% out of £2 million a whole lot more than £0?? which seems to be what we're getting for him by loaning him out.

You don't know that. Loans can command a fee.

[Row Z Royal]

Happy to see the back of those senior players you mentioned. What concerns me is why we loaned out Harper and Rosenior to our rivals instead of trying to get a permanent £? Especially as both are out of contract next Summer

With less than a year to go on their contract, I'd imagine we'd get very little for them anyway.

Rivals bit is a bit harder to justify, mind.

May I be bold and suggest that Sheff Utd aren't our rivals this season?

[Maguire]

Of course they are :-/

[Whore Jackie]

Only it doesn't make sense at all. It seems to overlook the fact that if we were to sell Harper we would still save his wages!

Presumably once the Wolves deal fell through, there were no other suitors. So we continue to pay top-whack wages to someone who’s not part of BR’s plans or we loan him out and bring in someone who can potentially fill a hole in the squad, probably on lower money?

[Sun Tzu]

Harper has a 60% sell on clause? His wages are not much less than 20k a week. We save about £800k by loaning him out, or we could sell for what was said to be about £1.8m - 60%. Together the football club have saved £3m by letting these two go. That's what it comes down to.

I'd say worth pasting your message into every thread - as it is pretty much the only one that makes sense.

Only it doesn't make sense at all. It seems to overlook the fact that if we were to sell Harper we would still save his wages![/quote]

No, if you sell someone before their contract is up chances are youhave to pay up their contract (or a proportion of it). Send them out on loan and this may not apply.

Additionally many loan deals include a fee payable to the club holding the registration.

It is possible (but I have no idea if it is the case) that by loaning HArps out we are no longer paying his wages, are not liable to pay him any compensation for terminating his deal early and are getting a largish sum in cash back from Sheff Utd.

However I am very sad he's gone !!

[Row Z Royal]

Of course they are :-/

We might not like them, but are we realistically going to be competing for the same league positions?

Not if they're in the play-off places.

[ellpryjon]

Harper has a 60% sell on clause? His wages are not much less than 20k a week. We save about £800k by loaning him out, or we could sell for what was said to be about £1.8m - 60%. Together the football club have saved £3m by letting these two go. That's what it comes down to.

I'd say worth pasting your message into every thread - as it is pretty much the only one that makes sense.[/quote]

+1

[(.)Boobies(.)]

Harper has a 60% sell on clause? His wages are not much less than 20k a week. We save about £800k by loaning him out, or we could sell for what was said to be about £1.8m - 60%. Together the football club have saved £3m by letting these two go. That's what it comes down to.

I'd say worth pasting your message into every thread - as it is pretty much the only one that makes sense.

+1

Then quote it right.

[AF1]

So let me just check what has happened so far.

We got relegated from the Prem, and then choked the playoffs. So a lot of folks on
here called for Coppell to go. In amongst this time, a bucket load of players got
slaughtered (Murty, Hannaman, Duberry, Lita, Rosenior, Shunt, Harper to name a few).

So the club brought a young-ish manager in, and are trying something different. A lot of
the 'old guard' have gone, and hand on heart has Harper REALLY played that well recently ?
Are we REALLY going to miss Rosenior ?
Rightly or wrongly, Rodgers and the board are trying something different. Mills, Cummins, O'Dea
will be busting a gut to do well here. And for the first time in a while, we are seeing players come
through from the Academy. Will it work ? Who knows. I for one think it is a breath of fresh air, and whilst
I appreciate what Harper, USA, Doyle, Murty etc etc did for Reading FC it is time to move on.
This is part of what following your club is about. Good luck to you Rodgers. Let's start a new chapter,

not reading all that shit tbh

[ellpryjon]

I'd say worth pasting your message into every thread - as it is pretty much the only one that makes sense.

+1

Then quote it right.

Sorry, wont happen again

[Gus the teenage cow]

is it possible the 500k quoted for howard was written off as a loan fee for harper and in fact we didn't pay anything for howard