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Re: New signings

by CMRoyal » 01 Sep 2009 21:33

winchester_royal Apparently Rosie's agent has confirmed his move on talksport.

WTF is going on? Fcuking tell us something RFC you muppets.


I can't help being puzzled by this kind of comment. Neither the Harper nor the Rosenior moves are on the Sheffield United or Ipswich OSes. So it's not RFC being muppets, it's the clubs involved having to finalise paperwork before co-ordinating their updates. It's not their faults that players, managers or agents start blabbing prematurely.

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Re: New signings

by winchester_royal » 01 Sep 2009 21:34

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winchester_royal Apparently Rosie's agent has confirmed his move on talksport.

WTF is going on? Fcuking tell us something RFC you muppets.


I can't help being puzzled by this kind of comment. Neither the Harper nor the Rosenior moves are on the Sheffield United or Ipswich OSes. So it's not RFC being muppets, it's the clubs involved having to finalise paperwork before co-ordinating their updates. It's not their faults that players, managers or agents start blabbing prematurely.


It's been 4.5 hours since the deadline shut.

How much paperwork is there?

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Re: New signings

by Terminal Boardom » 01 Sep 2009 21:35

4.5 hours on and still fcuk all from the club. What a bunch of wakners!

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Re: New signings

by Ian Royal » 01 Sep 2009 21:35

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Load more toss there. Gunnarsson plays for Iceland ffs! Harper would be a regular for them if he was Icelandic. I know one thing. A damn sight more of Harper's appearances were made in the Premier League than Gunnarsson or Howard's.

You want to know exactly which clubs and at what level the appearances were made, you work it out if you think it invalidates the argument. The numbers speak for themselves.

Unless of course when you think experience you actually mean age. In which case, yes, Gunnarsson is older.


Gunnar, IMO, offers more help to the younger guys as he is more of an older head, and less of a joker.


Ah, so you did mean older. Congratulations, Gunner is older. Harper has played more at this level and higher, and has played more in general. He is more experienced.

I thank you.

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Re: New signings

by CholseyRoyal » 01 Sep 2009 21:36

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winchester_royal Apparently Rosie's agent has confirmed his move on talksport.

WTF is going on? Fcuking tell us something RFC you muppets.


I can't help being puzzled by this kind of comment. Neither the Harper nor the Rosenior moves are on the Sheffield United or Ipswich OSes. So it's not RFC being muppets, it's the clubs involved having to finalise paperwork before co-ordinating their updates. It's not their faults that players, managers or agents start blabbing prematurely.


It's been 4.5 hours since the deadline shut.

How much paperwork is there?


It is outside office hours!

HTH


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Re: New signings

by Royal Rother » 01 Sep 2009 21:37

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Royal Rother We are a Championship club coming out of our parachute period. Our squad was too big and had too many players in their 30s used to the glory days who would have found it difficult being positive whilst being kept out of the team by youngsters - more likely they would, without doing it deliberately, have become a negative presence around the club. They had to go, as did the players worth money who were also the higher wage earners.

Resent it all you like but at this time it's all about balancing the books, cutting the cloth and having a viable model in the short to medium term for the business that is Reading Football Club. It is also about giving the youngsters who have shown so much promise a chance to establish themselves and create a player progression model for the club, together with an obvious income stream from the sale of said players in the medium term.

Think of it this way - although it might have worked for other clubs, high wages and ex-Prem players didn't get RFC into the Premier League in 2005/6, or 2008/9... the model for 2009/10 has far more in common with 2005/6 than 2008/9, and that's just fine with me.

Too many supporters are impatient for success and view our slow start to the season as an indication that what Rodgers / the club are trying to do just will not work, which is short term knee-jerkism of a quite ridiculous level in my opinion.

Rodgers has brought in players he knows and likes in Bertrand, McAnuff and Rasiak (who are surely a better quality than the players of similar mould brought in by Coppell in Shunt, Sonko and whoever else he signed from Brentford) and players he has had his eye on for some time in O'Dea and Mills.

The squad he is building is new, young, vibrant, and yes, transitional but, although it will take time to bear full fruits, for those with their heads screwed on, it is an exciting time to be a Reading fan.

Some supporters just can't cope with Madejski's hair, Rodgers' watch, and indeed transition / change or prudent business practice in their football club and so will look for the negative in everything that is being done. I just find that odd when what Madejski has done in the past has brought such success to the club and when Rodgers has developed such a glowing reputation during his time in the game.

Of course everyone has a right to question moves made but these guys know far more about what they are doing and have a far better record of success in their fields of expertise than anyone on this board - should we not just give it a chance before ridiculing every move made?


Too many players in their 30s? Beig kept out by the youngsters??? I think you will find that the bulk of the players that left went BEFORE the season started.


Oh, that invalidates my point does it Spacey?? :lol:

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Re: New signings

by Archies Volley II » 01 Sep 2009 21:37

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winchester_royal Apparently Rosie's agent has confirmed his move on talksport.

WTF is going on? Fcuking tell us something RFC you muppets.


I can't help being puzzled by this kind of comment. Neither the Harper nor the Rosenior moves are on the Sheffield United or Ipswich OSes. So it's not RFC being muppets, it's the clubs involved having to finalise paperwork before co-ordinating their updates. It's not their faults that players, managers or agents start blabbing prematurely.


True - just in previous windows things have all been annouced within an hour or so of the window shutting and those have been busier days.

If things have not progressed now are these deals actually going to allowed by the League?

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Re: New signings

by rotherwick_royal » 01 Sep 2009 21:38

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Im so disgusted about the treatment of harper im not going to talk about it, it makes my blood boil.


Harper has been great for this club but his best days at RFC are behind him - stop living in the past people.

The club is moving on, so should you.

And anyway, how should the club have treated him? Let him stay as a pet of the fans on the highest wages at the club despite the fact that the manager (presumably) thinks he has better options / can use the money more effectively? So what if he has been virtually forced out - doubtless he'll be upset as he obviously has a genuine love for the club, but it will be better for him and probably give him a new lease of life.

Good luck to him.


+1 ... all this 'not treated well' bullshit, is so completely misplaced. Harper was quite happy to jump ship himself to Wolves not too long ago - could be his heart wasn't it, like SHunt.


Completely unfounded to compare Harper with Hunt. Harper stayed loyal to the club and only talked about leaving because he was told his face didn't fit.

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Re: New signings

by Royalwaster » 01 Sep 2009 21:39

From Sheff Utd site - thanks WSF:

One thing about the Harper Vid.

Three things we've needed from an offensive midfielder:

- Arriving late and the right time in the box
- Willingness to get forward confidently
- Composure in front of goal

Exactly what we need!

Made me laff - the video did indeed make James look like a fab goal scorer; unfortunately those were some of his very few goals scored over the last 3 seasons. If they think JH is going to be a regular goal scorer for them, they'll be bitterly surprised.


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Re: New signings

by Tamworth_Royal » 01 Sep 2009 21:39

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Tamworth_Royal Your wildly optimistic if you think these kids would ever get us to the Premiership...

And I'm sure you were wildly optimistic in August 2005 that a bunch of players with no realistic aspirations to be anthing more than League 1 / Championship players at best, in Murty, Harper, Sonko, Sidwell, Doyle, Lita, Kitson, Convey et al would get us there weren't you?

And then equally optimistic, after little activity in the summer of 2006, that we would stay in the PL....

The truth is you cannot tell what will work and what won't - but bringing through young players from the Academy and on loan, plus a few older heads makes for an interesting time ahead. Can we not settle for that at this stage?


In 2005 2006 I was wildly optimistic the club was going in the right direction with talk of ground expansion, being another Arsenal etc etc wheres all that talk now Rother

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Re: New signings

by Terminal Boardom » 01 Sep 2009 21:40

Having the likes of Doyle, Shunt, Bikey et al moving on was not unexpected. But getting rid of Harps for nothing is madness. Just as well there is an international break. And Rosie gone? WTF is going on? What kind of club is this? The silver got flogged off ages ago. Who wants to buy some pewter?

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Re: New signings

by FiNeRaIn » 01 Sep 2009 21:40

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Link?

http://www.sheff-utd.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=14509

http://www.sheff-utd.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=14513

http://www.sheff-utd.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=14515

Last link has the funniest comments about what it looks like Harper brings, hahahah

Bless them.


You muppets said this about hunt and he's scored two and created one for hull this season. keep up the good work :lol:
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Re: New signings

by Royalwaster » 01 Sep 2009 21:40

Completely unfounded to compare Harper with Hunt. Harper stayed loyal to the club and only talked about leaving because he was told his face didn't fit.[/quote]

He wasn't told 'his face didn't fit' - those were his own words. He didn't start a few games at the start, having already expressed interest through his agent of moving back to PM ...


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Re: New signings

by Elm Park Old Boy » 01 Sep 2009 21:41

I'll miss Harper, whatever people say. Wasn't he our longest serving player? Wasn't always brilliant, but I don't think I ever saw him give less than his best effort.

All the best to him and I'll welcome him back any time he plays here (which I suspect may not be for a while)

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Re: New signings

by Terminal Boardom » 01 Sep 2009 21:41

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Royal Rother We are a Championship club coming out of our parachute period. Our squad was too big and had too many players in their 30s used to the glory days who would have found it difficult being positive whilst being kept out of the team by youngsters - more likely they would, without doing it deliberately, have become a negative presence around the club. They had to go, as did the players worth money who were also the higher wage earners.

Resent it all you like but at this time it's all about balancing the books, cutting the cloth and having a viable model in the short to medium term for the business that is Reading Football Club. It is also about giving the youngsters who have shown so much promise a chance to establish themselves and create a player progression model for the club, together with an obvious income stream from the sale of said players in the medium term.

Think of it this way - although it might have worked for other clubs, high wages and ex-Prem players didn't get RFC into the Premier League in 2005/6, or 2008/9... the model for 2009/10 has far more in common with 2005/6 than 2008/9, and that's just fine with me.

Too many supporters are impatient for success and view our slow start to the season as an indication that what Rodgers / the club are trying to do just will not work, which is short term knee-jerkism of a quite ridiculous level in my opinion.

Rodgers has brought in players he knows and likes in Bertrand, McAnuff and Rasiak (who are surely a better quality than the players of similar mould brought in by Coppell in Shunt, Sonko and whoever else he signed from Brentford) and players he has had his eye on for some time in O'Dea and Mills.

The squad he is building is new, young, vibrant, and yes, transitional but, although it will take time to bear full fruits, for those with their heads screwed on, it is an exciting time to be a Reading fan.

Some supporters just can't cope with Madejski's hair, Rodgers' watch, and indeed transition / change or prudent business practice in their football club and so will look for the negative in everything that is being done. I just find that odd when what Madejski has done in the past has brought such success to the club and when Rodgers has developed such a glowing reputation during his time in the game.

Of course everyone has a right to question moves made but these guys know far more about what they are doing and have a far better record of success in their fields of expertise than anyone on this board - should we not just give it a chance before ridiculing every move made?


Too many players in their 30s? Beig kept out by the youngsters??? I think you will find that the bulk of the players that left went BEFORE the season started.


Oh, that invalidates my point does it Spacey?? :lol:


Spacey??? :shock:

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Re: New signings

by West Stand Flash » 01 Sep 2009 21:41

So you actually think we will miss Harper Finerain??

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Re: New signings

by IMAMATEOFJOVSKY » 01 Sep 2009 21:41

Terminal Boardom And 4 hours on from the alleged transfer deadline and still NO OFFICIAL COMMENT! :twisted:


Well thats the way we cut our cloth - Rodgers says at least 2 signings -and it doesnt happen - guess Egoman waxed lyrical with our weekend win - enough to say that he thinks that every team in Championship is as poor as Barnsley, and as a result, reigned in the few coppers that were available for the transfer window - and this is where we are ... a defender that we dont necessarily need, at this time, with Pearce and Mills in situ..and other players going out!**

Another example of total lack of ambition and more concern about pennies!

** -as RFC are totally shite at any communication, these statements are based on conjecture and subject to them getting off their arses and telling the fans what the hell is going on!

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Re: New signings

by Stooper » 01 Sep 2009 21:42

Loan deals do not have a window.

HTH.

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Re: New signings

by Tamworth_Royal » 01 Sep 2009 21:43

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You just don't understand Reading Football club at all do you Woodcote.


It seems to me that if one of us does, it sure as hell isn't you :P


Argue the point then rather than edit a line.

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Re: New signings

by Royalwaster » 01 Sep 2009 21:44

West Stand Flash So you actually think we will miss Harper Finerain??


Good question - who would you have dropped from our Midfield from the Barnsley game?

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