Bikey In. Duberry Out.

[Sarah Star]

Yes, what the f*ck WAS Rosenoir playing at? Receive ball, hoof down wing, receive ball, hoof down wing...

Saw Little have a word with him at one point asking him to play the ball along the ground. Must be so demoralising for a passing player to see the ball hoofed over your head.

How did you know what he was saying?

[Turns8]

Yes, what the f*ck WAS Rosenoir playing at? Receive ball, hoof down wing, receive ball, hoof down wing...

Saw Little have a word with him at one point asking him to play the ball along the ground. Must be so demoralising for a passing player to see the ball hoofed over your head.

How did you know what he was saying?

Play the ball on the ground...oh i see...you mean the bobbly ground...hang on i know we all think Little is the white Pele, but even the best player in the world would have trouble controlling the ball on that surface

[Tacano]

Agreed. Just seen the goal too. Doobs didn't even attempt the challenge! Didn't he give away the frickin free kick too? Bring back Bikey and keep Tabb instead of Hunt. Lots of positive signs tonight but our defence has gone to pieces recently.

Pearce gave away the free kick for their second goal.

[retro royal]

It's been evident for ages that the two centre backs arn't working, both have no pace, at least one needs too and the ability to play the ball out, and bikey fits the bill, but Coppels favouritism routine is killing any chance of a straight return to the promised land (not though, it's that enjoyable)

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[Blue Blood]

Coppell in post match interview slammed 'rank bad defending' for first goal and how we should not be beaten at far post (again) for second goal and that defending set pieces a worry and not good enough. Changes afoot? Tongue in cheek could be why he got Kitson back as he was always one of our best set piece defenders!

[Snowball]

Looked at the stats for all the CB combinations

W D L F A GA PPG
7 2 3 25 10 0.83 1.92 Bikey-Ingi
1 1 0 08 02 1.00 2.00 Bikey-Pearce
2 4 2 07 08 1.00 1.25 Doobs-Pearce
1 1 1 04 04 1.33 1.33 Ingi-Sonko
1 0 1 04 04 2.00 1.50 Ingi-Pearce

Bikey-Ingi let in the least goals per game,followed by Bikey-Pearce

But defence isn't the only thing,winning/losing is

Here is the same table in points-won per game

W D L F A GA PPG
1 1 0 08 02 1.00 2.00 Bikey -Pearce
7 2 3 25 10 0.83 1.92 Bikey -Ingi
1 0 1 04 04 2.00 1.50 Ingi-Pearce
1 1 1 04 04 1.33 1.33 Ingi-Sonko
2 4 2 07 08 1.00 1.25 Doobs-Pearce

The current centre-back combination (not all their fault) is averaging 1.25 points per game

This is a grid looking at individual players. Bikey comes out as best defence, and surprisingly,Pearce the worst

W D L F A GA PPG
8 3 3 33 12 0.86 1.93 Bikey
6 6 3 21 14 0.93 1.60 Doobs
9 3 5 33 18 1.06 1.76 Ingi
3 5 3 18 14 1.27 1.27 Pearce


And in terms of points per game it's Bikey best again

W D L F A GA PPG
8 3 3 33 12 0.86 1.93 Bikey
9 3 5 33 18 1.06 1.76 Ingi
6 6 3 21 14 0.93 1.60 Doobs
3 5 3 18 14 1.27 1.27 Pearce


I DO realise these figures are not solely down to the CBs. Is it Feds? Is it the midfield?


Personally I think playing two slow CBs makes the FBs less inclined to go forward,
thus we score less goals and the opposition gets braver and then we concede

[Alan Partridge]

Looked at the stats for all the CB combinations

W D L F A GA PPG
7 2 3 25 10 0.83 1.92 Bikey-Ingi
1 1 0 08 02 1.00 2.00 Bikey-Pearce
2 4 2 07 08 1.00 1.25 Doobs-Pearce
1 1 1 04 04 1.33 1.33 Ingi-Sonko
1 0 1 04 04 2.00 1.50 Ingi-Pearce

Bikey-Ingi let in the least goals per game,followed by Bikey-Pearce

But defence isn't the only thing,winning/losing is

Here is the same table in points-won per game

W D L F A GA PPG
1 1 0 08 02 1.00 2.00 Bikey -Pearce
7 2 3 25 10 0.83 1.92 Bikey -Ingi
1 0 1 04 04 2.00 1.50 Ingi-Pearce
1 1 1 04 04 1.33 1.33 Ingi-Sonko
2 4 2 07 08 1.00 1.25 Doobs-Pearce

The current centre-back combination (not all their fault) is averaging 1.25 points per game

This is a grid looking at individual players. Bikey comes out as best defence, and surprisingly,Pearce the worst

W D L F A GA PPG
8 3 3 33 12 0.86 1.93 Bikey
6 6 3 21 14 0.93 1.60 Doobs
9 3 5 33 18 1.06 1.76 Ingi
3 5 3 18 14 1.27 1.27 Pearce


And in terms of points per game it's Bikey best again

W D L F A GA PPG
8 3 3 33 12 0.86 1.93 Bikey
9 3 5 33 18 1.06 1.76 Ingi
6 6 3 21 14 0.93 1.60 Doobs
3 5 3 18 14 1.27 1.27 Pearce


I DO realise these figures are not solely down to the CBs. Is it Feds? Is it the midfield?


Personally I think playing two slow CBs makes the FBs less inclined to go forward,
thus we score less goals and the opposition gets braver and then we concede

where is Duberry - Ingimarsson, seeing as though they've probably played the majority of the games.

[Snowball]

Doobs-Ingi was on the other envelope(but I had Doobs' totals right


W5 D2 L1 15-6 = .75 a game conceded and 2.125 points per game

W D L F A -- GA PPG
5 2 1 15 06 0.75 2.13 Doobs-Ingi (BEST)
7 2 3 25 10 0.83 1.92 Bikey-Ingi
1 1 0 08 02 1.00 2.00 Bikey-Pearce
2 4 2 07 08 1.00 1.25 Doobs-Pearce
1 1 1 04 04 1.33 1.33 Ingi-Sonko
1 0 1 04 04 2.00 1.50 Ingi-Pearce


IN TERMS OF POINTS WON PER GAME

W D L F A -- GA PPG
5 2 1 15 06 0.75 2.13 Doobs-Ingi
1 1 0 08 02 1.00 2.00 Bikey -Pearce
7 2 3 25 10 0.83 1.92 Bikey -Ingi
1 0 1 04 04 2.00 1.50 Ingi-Pearce
1 1 1 04 04 1.33 1.33 Ingi-Sonko
2 4 2 07 08 1.00 1.25 Doobs-Pearce

[Alan Partridge]

So the stats show that Duberry can't be that bad then? And next to Ivar is the best, now is Ivar known for his pace?

Theories please...!

[Snowball]

where is Duberry - Ingimarsson, seeing as though they've probably played the majority of the games.

Just 8 out of 34 = 24% of games

[Snowball]

So the stats show that Duberry can't be that bad then? And next to Ivar is the best, now is Ivar known for his pace?

Theories please...!

That Harper in front of them shores up the defence, maybe?

23 Games W12-D6-L5 44-23 42 Points = conceding 1.00 goals per game, winning 1.83 points per game (HARPER STARTING)
13 Games W06-D4-L3 20-11 22 Points = conceding 0.85 goals per game, winning 1.69 points per game (Harper not Starting)

So we let in more goals with Harps starting but score 0.4 more goals and win more points

1.83 = 84.2 points a season
1.69 = 77.7 points a season


So it isn't Harps, defence-wise

[Alan Partridge]

where is Duberry - Ingimarsson, seeing as though they've probably played the majority of the games.

Just 8 out of 34 = 24% of games

Is that all? Thought it would be more.

Maybe the constant changing of the central defense is the problem?

[rob the royal]

must say LOLz at the Doobs bashers after last week there were threads praising his performances this season.

Must say I thought he had the poorest game i've seen him play in yonks, still wasn't the worst player on the pitch. Step forward Liam Rosenior. (if you can manage that without either falling over or just hoofing it aimlessly forward)

yeah i like them both but they were both poor. couple of occasions when doobs had a player on his shoulder and he tried to turn and kick the ball away and put his boot through thin air instead of the ball. I wouldn't mind seeing bikey in, but then you have the problem of his little 'moments.' at the end of the day bikey can only get better where has doobs by his own admission has hit his peak, so for that reason i'd rather see bikey play IF duberry is playing badly, which now, I think he may be.

[hughsies no.1]

i think the one thing that hasn't really been mentioned on this site is since ivar has gone out our team it has all gone a bit pete tong. i saw ivar the other day at my local shops as he just lives round the corner and he is on crutches still. oh we need him back.

this thread goes without saying. both pearce and doobs dont really have pace. both couldnt pick a pass out to save their lives. dont get me wrong i rate both players but not playing together. one has to budge for bikey. so what does scc do- youth or experience? i personally would go for pearce purely for the threat of him in the opposition box

[Terminal Boardom]

Bot CBs were total Twyford last night with the exception of the last 10 minutes when Pearce actually came good.

[Terminal Boardom]

Can anyone honestly state that Doobs and Pearce are premiership quality?

[Alan Partridge]

Can anyone honestly state that any of Reading's players are premiership quality?

[Snowball]

So the stats show that Duberry can't be that bad then? And next to Ivar is the best, now is Ivar known for his pace?

Theories please...!

My kid wonders if consciously or unconsciously, Doobs is covering for Pearce
and it's affecting his own game." ?

Or maybe he's just lost a bit of form?

[Top Flight]

Personally I think its Pearce that should make way for Bikey.

[Alan Partridge]

Personally I think its Pearce that should make way for Bikey.

Here's a novel thought

Why not drop Rosenior

and play 3 at the back (Bikey, Doobs, Pearce)

Stretch wide left, bye Hunt, Little on the right with 3 in the middle, Marek Cisse and AN other with then the 2 up front.