Hard to see any progress for the forseeable future

[SpaceCruiser]

So for goodness sake drop the personal abuse directed at Schards and his good lady and accept that people do have different views.

Apart from Woodcote Royal, I don't think anyone has directed any personal abuse at them.

[Hampshire Royal]

I don't know what you think I did, all I was actually doing was stating my good luck in an ironic sort of way,emphasising the thing which more than anything makes it difficult for me to attend matches, sort of saying that it's a bad thing, when in fact it's one of the best things to happen to me in my life.

Incidentally, my daughter was born on 11 May, which put the whole relegation thing into context.

[SpaceCruiser]

So for goodness sake drop the personal abuse directed at Schards and his good lady and accept that people do have different views.

Apart from Woodcote Royal, I don't think anyone has directed any personal abuse at them.

Oh and another thing, I see Schards has been insulting too to certain posters ("limited intelligence" being an example in his recent post), so it works both ways.

[Hampshire Royal]

So for goodness sake drop the personal abuse directed at Schards and his good lady and accept that people do have different views.

Apart from Woodcote Royal, I don't think anyone has directed any personal abuse at them.

I'm sorry Victor, but although your defence of Schards is commendable, please look at his responses to anyone who dares to have a different opinion to his and then ask yourself who started the abuse.

[Stranded]

That's not how Hampshire Royal's post reads but, even if we accept that, is it realistic to assume a player is going to improve to the extent that Doyle did given that Doyle is widely regarded is one of the greatest success stories ever. His meteoric improvement is a very rare exception rather than the rule and is quaintly naive to assume Mooney will do likewise.

But if we take the posters PoV that Mooney is actually better than Doyle was then he may not need such an improvement to be as good for us as Doyle. The key difference at the moment is that Doyle got the break to come straight into the team due to a preseason injury to one of the other strikers (Kitson?) - if that had not happened who knows what would have happened, or if Mooney had had that luck we could be sat here singing his praises to the heavens.

[Victor Meldrew]

That's not how Hampshire Royal's post reads but, even if we accept that, is it realistic to assume a player is going to improve to the extent that Doyle did given that Doyle is widely regarded is one of the greatest success stories ever. His meteoric improvement is a very rare exception rather than the rule and is quaintly naive to assume Mooney will do likewise.

But if we take the posters PoV that Mooney is actually better than Doyle was then he may not need such an improvement to be as good for us as Doyle. The key difference at the moment is that Doyle got the break to come straight into the team due to a preseason injury to one of the other strikers (Kitson?) - if that had not happened who knows what would have happened, or if Mooney had had that luck we could be sat here singing his praises to the heavens.

I seem to remember that Bennett was supposedly the best defender in Ireland.
Win some,lose some.

[Schards#2]

That's not how Hampshire Royal's post reads but, even if we accept that, is it realistic to assume a player is going to improve to the extent that Doyle did given that Doyle is widely regarded is one of the greatest success stories ever. His meteoric improvement is a very rare exception rather than the rule and is quaintly naive to assume Mooney will do likewise.

But if we take the posters PoV that Mooney is actually better than Doyle was then he may not need such an improvement to be as good for us as Doyle. The key difference at the moment is that Doyle got the break to come straight into the team due to a preseason injury to one of the other strikers (Kitson?) - if that had not happened who knows what would have happened, or if Mooney had had that luck we could be sat here singing his praises to the heavens.

It's possible and I haven't seen enough of him to judge but the probability of him evolving into a £6m+ player is pretty low. To assume this on the basis of one poster's opinion is a bit naive.

[Schards#2]

So for goodness sake drop the personal abuse directed at Schards and his good lady and accept that people do have different views.

Apart from Woodcote Royal, I don't think anyone has directed any personal abuse at them.

I'm sorry Victor, but although your defence of Schards is commendable, please look at his responses to anyone who dares to have a different opinion to his and then ask yourself who started the abuse.

Could you point out a single post by me that is critical of another poster that was not in response to criticism of me by that poster?

I find some of the debate on here remarkable, people seem unable to cope with something maintaining a different opinion to them. They end up either resorting to abuse (Woodcote/Yellowcoat/Hampshire Royal) or just completely inventing things I have said (Spacecruiser). If people can't actually argue the point without having to resort to such rubbish then maybe there's some merit to it.

I'm sure there are many valid reasons why posters don't attend matches but, whatever the reason, surely even they can see that their opinions on the quality of the team and its players carry less weight than those who actually see them in action.

[Ian Royal]

I'd trust just about anyone's opinion over Royalee's even if they'd seen no games and he'd seen a hundred.

But as a fan who unfortunately spends many a match day trying to get a radio / video link, much as I'd like to I find it difficult to disagree with the basic principle of that last point.

The only thing I'd say is that being at more of a distance you're able to retain objectivity better, when things aren't going as well, and it's easier to avoid getting carried away with a few tremendous performances.

[Hampshire Royal]

PS - LOL at anyone sad enough to put someone on an ignore list, you must have to be an absolute twat to do that.

Good job the dunce concerned won't be reading this or the brain dead moron might be offended.

Well there's one - made, as I recall, in response to someone who jokingly said he was happy to have you on his ignore list (whatever that is).

[Royal Lady]

PS - LOL at anyone sad enough to put someone on an ignore list, you must have to be an absolute twat to do that.

Good job the dunce concerned won't be reading this or the brain dead moron might be offended.

Well there's one - made, as I recall, in response to someone who jokingly said he was happy to have you on his ignore list (whatever that is).

With respect, that was to Woodcote Royal whose soul contributions to anything said by myself or Schards is to liken us to Terry and June and vent his spleen with expletives, just because we don't agree with him.

[readingbedding]

I'd trust just about anyone's opinion over Royalee's even if they'd seen no games and he'd seen a hundred.

But as a fan who unfortunately spends many a match day trying to get a radio / video link, much as I'd like to I find it difficult to disagree with the basic principle of that last point.

The only thing I'd say is that being at more of a distance you're able to retain objectivity better, when things aren't going as well, and it's easier to avoid getting carried away with a few tremendous performances.

Why does the Manager attend the matches then?

[Ian Royal]

I'd trust just about anyone's opinion over Royalee's even if they'd seen no games and he'd seen a hundred.

But as a fan who unfortunately spends many a match day trying to get a radio / video link, much as I'd like to I find it difficult to disagree with the basic principle of that last point.

The only thing I'd say is that being at more of a distance you're able to retain objectivity better, when things aren't going as well, and it's easier to avoid getting carried away with a few tremendous performances.

Why does the Manager attend the matches then?

Because it's his job to and he isn't nearly as emotionally attached to the side so the problems I mentioned shouldn't really be as much of a problem. Although clearly last season Coppell could have been accused of being too close to the situation to see the right choice.

It doesn't take a brain surgeon to work it out. You're a reasonably smart guy, try thinking about it a little.

[readingbedding]

I'd trust just about anyone's opinion over Royalee's even if they'd seen no games and he'd seen a hundred.

But as a fan who unfortunately spends many a match day trying to get a radio / video link, much as I'd like to I find it difficult to disagree with the basic principle of that last point.

The only thing I'd say is that being at more of a distance you're able to retain objectivity better, when things aren't going as well, and it's easier to avoid getting carried away with a few tremendous performances.

Why does the Manager attend the matches then?

Because it's his job to and he isn't nearly as emotionally attached to the side so the problems I mentioned shouldn't really be as much of a problem. Although clearly last season Coppell could have been accused of being too close to the situation to see the right choice.

It doesn't take a brain surgeon to work it out. You're a reasonably smart guy, try thinking about it a little.

How many games would fans have to miss to receive this objectivity that you talk about?

[Ian Royal]

Well that would depend on their personality really wouldn't it.

[Royal Lady]

Here's the full post Hampshire. In response to an offensive picture posted by Woodcote Royal that would shame a 12 year old in its childishness

That post really demonstrates how little you know me.

I'm absolutely delighted with the result, as I always am if Reading win. If I lose my bet with Juanpablo, that's absolutely fine, i'd rather see Reading finish top six than not. I would suggest that he doesn't make promises to his family about christmas just yet though as the fundamentals regarding the chairman, manager and senior players don't change. If we go up it will be in spite of these obsticles.

As for being mocked by the resident board idiot Woodcote.

a) isn't this the brain doner who told the world he had me on ignore?

b) isn't this the brain doner who was braying through his spittle frothing mouth that Coppell was useless and making all the wrong decisions, isn't this the moron who was saying he'd stop going to games, isn't this the moron who sat in his car outside the ground waiting for the team to be announced for the Palace game because he was going to go home and taking his ball with him if the selection didn't meet his approval?

Whilst I have voiced reservations about our prospects, I haven't criticised Coppell's abilities, more the state of mind that, I believe, will lead him to leave sooner rather than later regardless of the outcome of this season.

Woodcote remians out on his own as the main contender for "idiot of the year" at this year's end of season "Woodies" awards for stupidity, idiocy and all round total ignorance about anything to do with the sport of football.

[Ian Royal]

I thought that was quite a funny photo.

You take things way too seriously sometimes.

[readingbedding]

Well that would depend on their personality really wouldn't it.

You tell me.

I trust my own interpretations because I'm there.
Unfortunately, listening to games on the Radio is someone else's interpretation of the performance.
It is useful in regards to finding out the result, but it comes a very poor second.

[SpaceCruiser]

Please make allowances for Schard's lack of vision



but feel free to take his money

Just to remind us what the funny pic was....

[juanpablo]