Coppells parking space

[Baines]

Hurry up and go Coppell so we can sort this mess out - you clearly have absolutely no respect for the club by fannying around having everyone chase you for an answer. It's your fault we got relegated, so stand up and be a man for once.

Is there going to be a "Please go now!" meeting at Coppell's parking space tonight?

I'm that bemused by his total lack of a spine that even if I was in the vacinity, I wouldn't waste my time on the guy.

It's very self-aware of Royalee to compare himself to smallpox.

[rhroyal]

Is an announcement necessary if he stays? He just seems to be going business as usual with the contracts offered and players released, and another interview today about transfers last season. I think it may just be a case of business as usual.

[Hoop Blah]

How do you know that a decision has not been made?

What right do you/me/we have to be informed of any developments?

None really, but don't you think it's a bit of a slap in the face to the fans who have shown the club such "amazing" support in the last week that this is all dragging out without much insight into whats happening.

If a decision has been made and they're just not telling us then that shows a massive lack of respect.

Also do you not remember how long it took to confirm Coppell's appointment? He is quite obviously a man who likes to take time to be sure of his decision, rather than making hasty pronouncements or shouting his mouth off for the sake of it and coming out with hackneyed, cliched nonsense(unlike some of us)

Coppell not rushing into things is fine, but there has to be a line somewhere and the longer it goes on the less likely I think he is to be staying, or at least the less confident that he's staying on under the right conditions.

[Hoop Blah]

Is an announcement necessary if he stays? He just seems to be going business as usual with the contracts offered and players released, and another interview today about transfers last season. I think it may just be a case of business as usual.

I guessing that Nick Ive has stock piled a load of quotes to drip feed into his back page non-stories whilst he waits for real developments to occur.

I don't think for one moment that Ive is speaking to Coppell on a daily basis to think up his current column fillers.

[Royalee]

I'm that bemused by his total lack of a spine that even if I was in the vacinity, I wouldn't waste my time on the guy.

How do you know that a decision has not been made?

What right do you/me/we have to be informed of any developments?

Also do you not remember how long it took to confirm Coppell's appointment? He is quite obviously a man who likes to take time to be sure of his decision, rather than making hasty pronouncements or shouting his mouth off for the sake of it and coming out with hackneyed, cliched nonsense(unlike some of us)

1. If he hasn't already made his decision then he clearly doesn't want the job enough. What the hell must potential transfer targets think when the man at the top takes this long to decide if he even wants to be at the club?

2. I have plenty of rights to be informed of developments having spent probably in excess of two grand following the club this season to add to the previous 16 years. Reading Football Club would be nothing without the fans.

[Uke]

I'm that bemused by his total lack of a spine that even if I was in the vacinity, I wouldn't waste my time on the guy.

Such masterful use of irony can only confirm the unique level of genius which Royalee has attained. He truly is in a class of his own.

[SpaceCruiser]

Is an announcement necessary if he stays? He just seems to be going business as usual with the contracts offered and players released, and another interview today about transfers last season. I think it may just be a case of business as usual.

Coppell doesn't usually handle the contracts, I guess Nicky Hammond and Nigel Howe does that side of business.

[brendywendy]

Did you ACTUALLY READ what Dillon said you numpty?

“He has a very supportive chairman and all this talk about Steve not being given money is rubbish.

“The money was there this season but we couldn’t find the players to fit our criteria and we thought the ones we already had here were good enough.”

Which funnily enough is why Coppell deserves nothing other than the boot as he is a loser who lacks bottle. Nice guy, not a nasty bone in his body I suspect, but ultimately not good enough to establish us or indeed any other club in the Premiership.

the article in the EP at the mo, seems to point to the fact that while money was available for transfers, it was hard to attract people becuase for the wages on offer, among other erasons
this would be down to the chairman.

and the quote about sunderland really sums it up for me
we are years from being able to compete with clubs like that
which is why the redevelopement was so important in the long term

[wolsey]

Also do you not remember how long it took to confirm Coppell's appointment? He is quite obviously a man who likes to take time to be sure of his decision, rather than making hasty pronouncements or shouting his mouth off for the sake of it and coming out with hackneyed, cliched nonsense(unlike some of us)

Coppell not rushing into things is fine, but there has to be a line somewhere and the longer it goes on the less likely I think he is to be staying, or at least the less confident that he's staying on under the right conditions.[/quote]

Quite the opposite really, if the response was based on his initial emotions following relegation or the fan's reaction to him at Derby/ his car park park, rather than being based on his considered thoughts on whether he could continue in the job, or wanted to carry on doing the job, then it would have smacked of knee jerkism.

Relax. Just because we're part of the "I want it and I want it now" culture doesn't make it right.

[Royalee]

Silly me, I forgot we didn't have the financial clout to compete with the likes of Fulham, Bolton, Wigan and Birmingham. I can begin to see the attraction of playing in front of a half-empty JJB crowd in sunny Wigan now though you mention it...

[CMRoyal]

Today should be the day for an announcement, any further delay is unreasonable and disregards the feelings of the fans. What actually happens now is less important than the current dithering. He either stays or goes, we have to live with whatever decision is made, but no decision?

With respect, I think it's just as unreasonable to put your own, arbitrary time limit on his decision-making. I know there has to be one, but better he takes two weeks (or whatever) and gets it right than feel pressured into it.

Having said that, personally I find the idea of a manager needing to announce that he's not resigning a bit absurd.

[Royalee]

it was hard to attract people becuase for the wages on offer, among other erasons
this would be down to the chairman.

You mean the poxy £25k a week we were able to pay the most overrated player in RFC history? Clearly we couldn't compete financially - after all, Arsenal are only paying Cesc Fabregas £10k more and he's rubbish.

Do you ever stop to question yourself and why Coppell didn't speak up about not having the wages required to bring in quality players at the time as opposed to admitting he screwed up? Didn't think so - it would be beyond your mental capacity to actually take in what is happening.

[wolsey]

I'm that bemused by his total lack of a spine that even if I was in the vacinity, I wouldn't waste my time on the guy.

How do you know that a decision has not been made?

What right do you/me/we have to be informed of any developments?

Also do you not remember how long it took to confirm Coppell's appointment? He is quite obviously a man who likes to take time to be sure of his decision, rather than making hasty pronouncements or shouting his mouth off for the sake of it and coming out with hackneyed, cliched nonsense(unlike some of us)

1. If he hasn't already made his decision then he clearly doesn't want the job enough. What the hell must potential transfer targets think when the man at the top takes this long to decide if he even wants to be at the club?

2. I have plenty of rights to be informed of developments having spent probably in excess of two grand following the club this season to add to the previous 16 years. Reading Football Club would be nothing without the fans.

1. Totally irrelevant answer - obviously didn't understand the original point.

2. The Club owes you nothing (except to ensure that it conducts its business in a manner that is likely to make the best use of the resources available). The principle basis of being a fan is the acceptance of unconditional love.

Would you be around if you had to suffer the dross generally endured pre 1994? I don't think so - the fare offered by RFC would have been way below your super-critical standards.

(Also 16 years? -Are you sure?)

[brendywendy]

Silly me, I forgot we didn't have the financial clout to compete with the likes of Fulham, Bolton, Wigan and Birmingham. I can begin to see the attraction of playing in front of a half-empty JJB crowd in sunny Wigan now though you mention it...

i can, which is why they will be able to attract a whole hatful of players we wont be able to get any way near this season coming.



and its not just financially is it?

its in terms of time spent up there, which relates directly to the liklihood of staying up.
and the fact that we run ourselves like an actual business, not some sort of joke

[Richi Royal]

I want Coppell to stay, however it has to be for the right reasons and be right for the club.

If he still hasn't made up his mind (and thats not to say he hasn't) then he doesn't want the job enough IMO. The chairman wants him to stay, the fans want him to stay, the staff want him to stay and a large majority of the players want him to stay, yet if he is still dithering about whether he wants a rest and if he is that uncertain then it is the best interests of the club to release him because we need someone who is 110% committed to RFC and getting them into the premiership.
That is not a dig at Coppell because I think he should stay and wouldn't want anyone else at the helm but i want someone who wants to be here and not for any other reason.

The other thing is if he has decided that this is going to be his last season no matter what happens then i think he should go as well (and this IMO is what the delay is about, the club prob want to know if things go well there is an opportunity to extend his stay and maintain the steady ship) because as mentioned before uncertainty is the worse possible thing for the player to have. If they get promoted and then we are going to get a new manager who will probably replace all 11 players then who is going to want to join us? knowing in a year they are likely to have to move again.

Whatever way he decides we need a decision soon because if he stays then we can crack on with signing the players he wants but if not then we have to find a new manager and he then has to draw up his plans without seeing the squad up close and make signing which could take weeks and put us behind every other club in the transfer market.

[brendywendy]

it was hard to attract people becuase for the wages on offer, among other erasons
this would be down to the chairman.

You mean the poxy £25k a week we were able to pay the most overrated player in RFC history? Clearly we couldn't compete financially - after all, Arsenal are only paying Cesc Fabregas £10k more and he's rubbish.

Do you ever stop to question yourself and why Coppell didn't speak up about not having the wages required to bring in quality players at the time as opposed to admitting he screwed up? Didn't think so - it would be beyond your mental capacity to actually take in what is happening.

our player of the season, who before the deal was one of the only bright spots in our whole side
and other teams were after him so we had to try and make it more appealing to stay?

also our other top performers are on close to that
its a wage structure-our best players get the top, our less so, get less so
at the time, like it or not, hunt was one of our best players who we wanted to keep

would fabregas have come to reading then if we had offered to match, or even increase arsenals wage offer? - if not that kind of defeats your own point

if fabregas is nt close to double 35 K pw next season ill eat my hat

and why must you always resort to insults royallee? it kind of takes the edge off what would be hyper negative, but reasonably well thought out postings, and makes me just igniore everything you say

you cock

[kevan]

SC was on holiday last week so he should be back now or soon

If he has decided to stay he should now be negotiating the terms, if he does not use this as an opprtunity to get the changes he wants (wage policy should be one of the topics on the agenda), before agreeing to stay then he is not the manager I think he is.

[SpaceCruiser]

2. I have plenty of rights to be informed of developments having spent probably in excess of two grand following the club this season to add to the previous 16 years. Reading Football Club would be nothing without the fans.

Jesus, get over yourself! The club has every right to run its business in whatsoever way they deem appropriate. You are only a "customer", you have absolutely no say in what they tell you.

What a prize dickhead you are.

[Vision]

Silly me, I forgot we didn't have the financial clout to compete with the likes of Fulham, Bolton, Wigan and Birmingham. I can begin to see the attraction of playing in front of a half-empty JJB crowd in sunny Wigan now though you mention it...

Actually we don't. All of the above sides have spent more seasons in the Premiership than us so their TV revenue over the last few season is vastly superior to ours. More pertinently though they all have chairmen who have at various stages of their Premiership lives bankrolled signings and covered wages with extremely large sums of money. Even then it didn't stop Birmingham suffering the same fate as us and the others surviving by the skin of their teeth.

Our chairman isn't prepared to do this to the same extent and what he is prepared to part with didn't constitute VFM as far as the manager was concerned. I know you like to point the blame for relegation at one individual, who certainly has to share a big part of the blame but the simple truth is that we were just about the least attractive proposition for potential Premiership signings for the last 2 seasons. Doesn't mean we couldn't have done more of course but equally doesn't mean that like Birmingham it would have saved us.

[sucatraps]

Today should be the day for an announcement, any further delay is unreasonable and disregards the feelings of the fans. What actually happens now is less important than the current dithering. He either stays or goes, we have to live with whatever decision is made, but no decision?

With respect, I think it's just as unreasonable to put your own, arbitrary time limit on his decision-making. I know there has to be one, but better he takes two weeks (or whatever) and gets it right than feel pressured into it.

Having said that, personally I find the idea of a manager needing to announce that he's not resigning a bit absurd.

It's just an opinion, but we are the nearest thing to shareholders this type of business gets. If our business had been subject of a major shift in circumstances, for example, the share holders could quite reasonably expect a statement, even if only to steady the ship whilst details were ironed out.
Seems to me that in principle SSC knows his own mind and leaving us holding our collective breath is unecessary. We are not 'entitled' to a statement, but it's never a good idea to exacerbate the patience of your bread & butter customers.
Besides the "it's just business as usual" stance sounds a lot like whistling in the dark to give oneself courage, why are we being treated like children?
A authoratative statement could/should be made after a week's worth of serious deliberation, even if it is not detailed beyond, 'Coppell Stays!' please or 'Coppell' goes!'
surely that's not to much to ask from a well run, solvent and forward looking business!