RFC - a total shambles

[silas]

Not to mention we have to do a bit of a PR job on the club for any prospective buyers who might be looking in! It's all rhetoric to me, I just ignore these comments now, same as "Coppell has money to spend" (doesn't actually say how much!), "We've tried to sign a number of players" (but Ronaldo and Thierry Henry just laughed at us) - could mean anything at all, and, unfortunately, I for one, am not placated by any of their ramblings anymore.

Another point that did make me laugh in it, 'an extended FA cup run could generate enough revenue to make a signing of the calibre of Marek Matejovsky'. Great

[Son of Len]

I can understand why some people are getting frustrated, but put it into perspective.

Reading FC is enjoying it's most successful period in its history with the best manager and players the club has ever had in its history.

The manager is playing the percentages in the best way he knows how, with no little skill, in probably the most competitive league in the world.

Nobody knows what efforts and what problems are being encountered behind the scenes in attracting players to the club.

For those reasons I find the impatience of some fans to be out of proportion with the current state of the club and its league position.

Thanks Norfolk, but I don't think anybody is listening. There's too much panic going around. Panic season coincides with flu season.

[Son of Len]

RFC is going to stagnate (which eventually will turn to going down) as long as Mr Mad continues in his role. He's been great for the club and I certainly have nothing against him, but at this stage in the game, his mind-set is akin to someone trying to sell a house. You spend just enough to fix some minor problems, make it look nice on the surface, but you do not spend the money it will take to make it something special or take it further.

He's made this position quite clear in interviews as well ('I think that's for someone else to do at Reading...').

If you look at the Official Site today Andy West Head of Communications, says -
"Our ambition is to make this one of the ten biggest clubs in the country"

Well my ambition is win £1000M on the lottery, buy RFC and make us the best team in the whole friggin' Universe ...... but I know it isn't ever going to happen!!!

Ambition is all well and good, and without it we may as well all pack up and go home, but Andy, Andy ..... even we RTG's on here can see things are not currently condusive to the Club's stated ambition!

Has anybody ever thought that the team has been too successful over the last couple of years? I think Coppell and co. have overshot targets and now the supporters are expecting a tad too much.

Seems to me, the club won't really start to expend until the stadium does. That means a couple of years hanging on just above tthe relegation zone. Get used to it.

[PEARCEY]

RFC is going to stagnate (which eventually will turn to going down) as long as Mr Mad continues in his role. He's been great for the club and I certainly have nothing against him, but at this stage in the game, his mind-set is akin to someone trying to sell a house. You spend just enough to fix some minor problems, make it look nice on the surface, but you do not spend the money it will take to make it something special or take it further.

He's made this position quite clear in interviews as well ('I think that's for someone else to do at Reading...').

If you look at the Official Site today Andy West Head of Communications, says -
"Our ambition is to make this one of the ten biggest clubs in the country"

Well my ambition is win £1000M on the lottery, buy RFC and make us the best team in the whole friggin' Universe ...... but I know it isn't ever going to happen!!!

Ambition is all well and good, and without it we may as well all pack up and go home, but Andy, Andy ..... even we RTG's on here can see things are not currently condusive to the Club's stated ambition!

Has anybody ever thought that the team has been too successful over the last couple of years? I think Coppell and co. have overshot targets and now the supporters are expecting a tad too much.

Seems to me, the club won't really start to expend until the stadium does. That means a couple of years hanging on just above tthe relegation zone. Get used to it.

It is realistic to expect the team to be embroiled in a relegation battle..and it is not the end of the world if we go down provided we keep our best players. If we start losing key players it may be very difficult to get back up again.
The stadium expansion is IMO an important factor in moving the club up the ladder but it wont be much benefit if half empty playing Hull City in the Coca Cola.
The next couple of weeks will be very interesting. I still expect there to be new signings particularly central defence.

[RoyalBlue]

RFC is going to stagnate (which eventually will turn to going down) as long as Mr Mad continues in his role. He's been great for the club and I certainly have nothing against him, but at this stage in the game, his mind-set is akin to someone trying to sell a house. You spend just enough to fix some minor problems, make it look nice on the surface, but you do not spend the money it will take to make it something special or take it further.

He's made this position quite clear in interviews as well ('I think that's for someone else to do at Reading...').

If you look at the Official Site today Andy West Head of Communications, says -
"Our ambition is to make this one of the ten biggest clubs in the country"

Well my ambition is win £1000M on the lottery, buy RFC and make us the best team in the whole friggin' Universe ...... but I know it isn't ever going to happen!!!

Ambition is all well and good, and without it we may as well all pack up and go home, but Andy, Andy ..... even we RTG's on here can see things are not currently condusive to the Club's stated ambition!

Has anybody ever thought that the team has been too successful over the last couple of years? I think Coppell and co. have overshot targets and now the supporters are expecting a tad too much.

Seems to me, the club won't really start to expend until the stadium does. That means a couple of years hanging on just above tthe relegation zone. Get used to it.

It is realistic to expect the team to be embroiled in a relegation battle..and it is not the end of the world if we go down provided we keep our best players. If we start losing key players it may be very difficult to get back up again.
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Rest assured if we go down we will see a sale of the century to rival that we got after we failed in the Wembley playoff. Who can forget Osborn out Meaker in?!!

As for AW and the Official Shyte talking about a cup run financing another @£1M purchase, they've already got loadsamoney (a fair bit taken from season ticket holders over the past two seasons with that justification) yet they still can't sign the players we patently need.

[PEARCEY]

RFC is going to stagnate (which eventually will turn to going down) as long as Mr Mad continues in his role. He's been great for the club and I certainly have nothing against him, but at this stage in the game, his mind-set is akin to someone trying to sell a house. You spend just enough to fix some minor problems, make it look nice on the surface, but you do not spend the money it will take to make it something special or take it further.

He's made this position quite clear in interviews as well ('I think that's for someone else to do at Reading...').

If you look at the Official Site today Andy West Head of Communications, says -
"Our ambition is to make this one of the ten biggest clubs in the country"

Well my ambition is win £1000M on the lottery, buy RFC and make us the best team in the whole friggin' Universe ...... but I know it isn't ever going to happen!!!

Ambition is all well and good, and without it we may as well all pack up and go home, but Andy, Andy ..... even we RTG's on here can see things are not currently condusive to the Club's stated ambition!

Has anybody ever thought that the team has been too successful over the last couple of years? I think Coppell and co. have overshot targets and now the supporters are expecting a tad too much.

Seems to me, the club won't really start to expend until the stadium does. That means a couple of years hanging on just above tthe relegation zone. Get used to it.

It is realistic to expect the team to be embroiled in a relegation battle..and it is not the end of the world if we go down provided we keep our best players. If we start losing key players it may be very difficult to get back up again.
.

Rest assured if we go down we will see a sale of the century to rival that we got after we failed in the Wembley playoff. Who can forget Osborn out Meaker in?!!

As for AW and the Official Shyte talking about a cup run financing another @£1M purchase, they've already got loadsamoney (a fair bit taken from season ticket holders over the past two seasons with that justification) yet they still can't sign the players we patently need.

Yes he is certainly taking the p*ss talking about money being available based on the strength of a cup run. I thought SC had money available and if not why not???

[Royal Rother]

Pssst! Not having a go or anything guys but there's no need to keep quoting when you're just following the previous post.....

That's another thing that irritates me!!!

[Archie's penalty]

Not to mention we have to do a bit of a PR job on the club for any prospective buyers who might be looking in! It's all rhetoric to me, I just ignore these comments now, same as "Coppell has money to spend" (doesn't actually say how much!), "We've tried to sign a number of players" (but Ronaldo and Thierry Henry just laughed at us) - could mean anything at all, and, unfortunately, I for one, am not placated by any of their ramblings anymore.

Another point that did make me laugh in it, 'an extended FA cup run could generate enough revenue to make a signing of the calibre of Marek Matejovsky'. Great

How have you or anyone else got any right to make a claim like that when you haven't seen the guy play. My prediction is he will be a very good player. God the negativity on here is ridiculous sometimes - I don't know!

[floyd__streete]

Right - I have allowed several hours for my thread title to be changed back to what it originally was and I see that it has not been done. Would the wise-guy mod who has changed the thread title jolly well explain himself .

I give you until 9am tomorrow morning to have the thread title changed back. I currently have Tredder tethered in a barn in Buckleberry and I shall not release him until my demands are met. Should you continue to resist, I shall begin spamming every thread with random spurious FGS quotes until you are begging for mercy. You have been warned.

[Uke]

Excellent - I see the thread title has been changed

Honestly, some of you people are the football supporting equivalent of Chemical Ali.




"we will slaughter them all, they have all been slaughtered"

InevitabLOLe reLOLegation.

Chemical Ali and Saddam had big ideas about the strength of their army thinking they would mix it with the big boys and had the weapons ad funding.

Unfortunately they were fighting in a division higher than they should...

Perhaps you are Chemical Ali?

[The Goat was fed]

Nice one Floyd...your post has brought together the worst of everything. The worst sort of pessimist, the cringeworthy optimists, personal insults directed at people I find to be very agreeable and the death of a family member.

As AP has rightly pointed out it is the nature we are going about losing that is really frustrating. Those who do not get more annoyed by how we play away from home clearly have not been to many away games this season or more importantly went to very few last season.

Last season we went to play our own football. I think of Man City - one of the finest performances I've ever seen from Reading given the quality of opponent. I look at Bolton when we never stopped playing our own football, came from a goal behind and blitzed them.

Why has this stopped? Our manager fears our opposition. We try and contain teams with a defence that would be unable to contain an invasion from an army of one-legged Frenchmen. A reasonable enough tactic considering a draw here in there would have got us to Europe last season, completely unreasonable with the personnel. So do we strengthen the squad, clearly weakened with the departure of Sidwell? No. We lump for a slow, ageing central midfielder who could not get in the championship side. Bugger loyalty I would rather have a competitive midfield.

The club forever bleats about ambition. Show us some oxf*rd evidence! Pay higher wages, attract better players - they've said the club is in record profit, so go for it. I hate the attitude of some of the people on this board - the "we should be happy to be here" brigade. Bollocks. Why do we spend thousands of pounds a season in tickets and travel to a team just happy to be here?

As fans, we deserve more than what we are getting at the moment. Last year we were two maybe three players short of European qualification - little Reading in Europe. Isn't that what we all want see - or is consistently finishing 15th good enough for us?

So often people say "look how far we've come" tell you what, watch how far we'll drop if we get relegated. Then we really will be little Reading again. 18,000 attendances and fighting for players whom would rather join Sheffield Utd and Charlton or even Leeds!

So yeah, be thankful for how far we've come but for the love of God don't give me or anyone else stick for wanting more. It's not pessimism, it's actually perverse optimism that I think this club has the potential to be more than what it is.

Great post Floyd.

[Daniella]

Great post, completely agree.

[Platypuss]

I give you until 9am tomorrow morning to have the thread title changed back.

Yeah? Or what?

I currently have Tredder tethered in a barn in Buckleberry and I shall not release him until my demands are met.

Is that supposed to be a threat? Do your worst!

Should you continue to resist, I shall begin spamming every thread with random spurious FGS quotes until you are begging for mercy. You have been warned.

Aaarrgghghghghghgh!!!!!

I have no idea who actually changed it in the first place, but there is no way that can be allowed to happen - is the revised title close enough?

[shadesrwrf]

Floyd... can you keep Tredder?

[RoyalBlue]

Pssst! Not having a go or anything guys but there's no need to keep quoting when you're just following the previous post.....

That's another thing that irritates me!!!

In principle no. However, on a busy thread you can often find that, by the time you've finished typing your reply to the previous post, someone has nipped into the gap and what you've written makes no (even less!) sense!

[West Stand Flash]

The Goat was Fed could not possible have put it any better.

That is the exact state of RFC as we stand.

Spot on Sir.

[Alan Partridge]

were the cup team close to keeping their places?

'we keep scoring goals so do you think it would be fair to leave out Kitson or Doyle? I will always repeat what Mourinho said, the team more or less picks itself and i am convinced of that on a week to week basis. Every so often you have to make significant decisions but most of the time the team picks itself'

Couple of things to pick out from this quote.

1. Doyle? Could have used a better example of someone playing well!!
2. We are also conceeding goals Steve, LOTS OF THEM. How many times did Mourinho's teams lose? and lose to the ridiculous scorelines we've done.
3. If the team isn't winning you don't just keep it the same!
4. What this says to me is, I have my team and unless someone is injured or suspended, this is it. A terrible attitude and a concerning one. What must the guys on the fringes make of statements like this?

[brendywendy]

perhaps the reason we are not going at teams away from home is the successive hammerings we took during the 1st half of the season, all those 3-0, and 3-1, then the 7-4 6-4 games
we went at teams in those games, but the defence wasnt good enough to cope and we ended up getting slaughtered
this would effect my confidence as im sure it has coppells and the players

[The Goat was fed]

perhaps the reason we are not going at teams away from home is the successive hammerings we took during the 1st half of the season, all those 3-0, and 3-1, then the 7-4 6-4 games
we went at teams in those games, but the defence wasnt good enough to cope and we ended up getting slaughtered
this would effect my confidence as im sure it has coppells and the players

Not an unreasonable theory but going defensive with our defensive personnel is inviting thrashings. Wally Downes....work cut out.

[.:BigDaveInTheDungeon:.]

:lol: Nice one Floyd...your post has brought together the worst of everything. The worst sort of pessimist, the cringeworthy optimists, personal insults directed at people I find to be very agreeable and the death of a family member.

As AP has rightly pointed out it is the nature we are going about losing that is really frustrating. Those who do not get more annoyed by how we play away from home clearly have not been to many away games this season or more importantly went to very few last season.

Last season we went to play our own football. I think of Man City - one of the finest performances I've ever seen from Reading given the quality of opponent. I look at Bolton when we never stopped playing our own football, came from a goal behind and blitzed them.

Why has this stopped? Our manager fears our opposition. We try and contain teams with a defence that would be unable to contain an invasion from an army of one-legged Frenchmen. A reasonable enough tactic considering a draw here in there would have got us to Europe last season, completely unreasonable with the personnel. So do we strengthen the squad, clearly weakened with the departure of Sidwell? No. We lump for a slow, ageing central midfielder who could not get in the championship side. Bugger loyalty I would rather have a competitive midfield.

The club forever bleats about ambition. Show us some oxf*rd evidence! Pay higher wages, attract better players - they've said the club is in record profit, so go for it. I hate the attitude of some of the people on this board - the "we should be happy to be here" brigade. Bollocks. Why do we spend thousands of pounds a season in tickets and travel to a team just happy to be here?

As fans, we deserve more than what we are getting at the moment. Last year we were two maybe three players short of European qualification - little Reading in Europe. Isn't that what we all want see - or is consistently finishing 15th good enough for us?

So often people say "look how far we've come" tell you what, watch how far we'll drop if we get relegated. Then we really will be little Reading again. 18,000 attendances and fighting for players whom would rather join Sheffield Utd and Charlton or even Leeds!

So yeah, be thankful for how far we've come but for the love of God don't give me or anyone else stick for wanting more. It's not pessimism, it's actually perverse optimism that I think this club has the potential to be more than what it is.

Great post Floyd.

there is nothing wrong with wanting Reading to be better than they are just you have to be realstic about it. look at what has happened to alot of teams that go out and spend big money, leeds, ipswich, bradford to name three. where are they now?
Coppel and JM are building something great here at Reading but it will take time, if we rush it we'll end up back where we came from. have patientce, we've only been in this league for one full season so we have a bad year this year but we will keep progressing forward as a club.