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by ferret » 03 Oct 2006 04:06

yorksroyal IMO Lita is a finisher. He should not be playing with his back to goal or trying to link up play. I like to think of him as similar in that way to Jamie Cureton, who I always thought was much more dangerous coming off the bench. Lita should be a tactical substitute, told to go on towards the end of games and get onto loose balls in the box from tired defenders. Then I think we'd see his goal count shoot up.


You do know that Curo only scored about 3 goals coming off the bench and scored almost 50 for us from the starting line up.

Personally i feel Doyle would be the better sub as he has more pace and i would love to see Lita play with Kitson again as they looked really good together the few times they played together last season.

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by Daff » 03 Oct 2006 05:18

Totally agree Yorks. Kitson and Doyle are by far our best starting to up front, and Lita on the bench can give us an extra bit of pace when oppos defence may be tiring a little.

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by International Royal » 03 Oct 2006 08:03

Einstein agogo Lita is a good finisher
he is not getting any balls in the box of quality that he can latch onto
this is due to the fact that.. the teams we are playing are so much better than the teams we played last year.. the wingers like delivering crosses ..which he is never going to connect with.. and sidwell and harper don't know a creative/forward pass if it slapped them in the face.

solution
1.change the way we play... not gonna happen. it's working for us at the moment
2. get a creative midfeilder in jan (possible)
3. lita has to grow 6 inches.. :roll:
4. say thanks for your efforts but buy another big guy as back up to kitson ( 99% sure that's what will happen )*
5. harper and lita learn how to make use of space at premiership level ( who knows..)

*don't mean get rid of lita..he is young and as squad improves he may fit in to certain plans in future

I'm not really that critical..we have a game plan that works at the moment for the squad we have.. everyone is working hard BUT it's mainly a defensive containment tactic, coupled with some direct play that just doesn't suit our current front line.. to continue this tactic has to mean a target man.. i'd wager that coppell is on the look out for such a player


Regarding the debate on strikers I think that EA is closest to laying it out the best. We have to accept that the way we are playing at the moment that we are not going to create many chances, even at home. When you're not creating that much then it's hardest on the strikers. Look at the games and consider if Lita or Doyle have missed many clear cut chances. Lita has been working his socks off along with Doyle, look how much time they spend in their own half. When the ball does leave midfield it's normally a chase ball into the channel.

I thought Lita was very good vs West Ham and won a bit in the air. His pace is going to be nullified if you spend a lot of the time sprinting down channels and closing down. That's the way we play, its containment and it's working with the players we have. What we lack up front is a physical presence, someone to let the central defenders know they have been in a game and knock them about a bit - Kitson style. Let's face it the West Ham central defenders had an easy afternoon. Daley who is past it and crap and who is more of a traffic bollard than a central defender had an easy ride. Same at Wigan, the 2 there (who are big) had an easy afternoon where Doyle and Lita never got a look in.

The most physical we have is Long, he does put himself about and leaps well.

When Kitson comes back it will be him and Doyle up front with Lita coming on for impact. Lita is a good finisher but you can't prove it if you're not getting chances. To do as well as we have done without Kitson is amazing and the current strike force have most definitely played their part.

The key I believe is Kitson. Plus someone in January perhaps?

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by Stranded » 03 Oct 2006 08:52

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Just like Doyle did against Man U with only Van der Sar to beat from 6 yards? A far easier chance.

True but a much tougher chance, Doyle had a spit second to react, take a touch and when he did that the keeper was on top of him.

Lita on the other hand, doesn't look like a striker who will score.

One thing Lita is supposed to have is pace, IMO it isn't seen enough or else it isn't there. I think he's out of his depth at Premiership level but I'd love him to prove me wrong! :wink:


I would argue Doyle's was an easier chance in many ways. Often a striker's worse nightmare is having the time to think about the chance rather than just reacting to it.

I'm always a bit surprised that people seem willing to give Long as much time as he wants because he is young, despite (at current) obvious deficiencies in his game, yet seem to forget that Lita isn't even 22 yet.

Yes he has deficiencies in his game as well but he is the best finisher at the club and is ahead of Long as a result of that. He needs goals but to get that he needs the service, his workrate has been excellent in the last few games although on Sunday I thought he worked hard but with little impact.

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by Im Spartacus » 03 Oct 2006 09:15

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Just like Doyle did against Man U with only Van der Sar to beat from 6 yards? A far easier chance.

True but a much tougher chance, Doyle had a spit second to react, take a touch and when he did that the keeper was on top of him.

Lita on the other hand, doesn't look like a striker who will score.

One thing Lita is supposed to have is pace, IMO it isn't seen enough or else it isn't there. I think he's out of his depth at Premiership level but I'd love him to prove me wrong! :wink:


I would argue Doyle's was an easier chance in many ways. Often a striker's worse nightmare is having the time to think about the chance rather than just reacting to it.

I'm always a bit surprised that people seem willing to give Long as much time as he wants because he is young, despite (at current) obvious deficiencies in his game, yet seem to forget that Lita isn't even 22 yet.

Yes he has deficiencies in his game as well but he is the best finisher at the club and is ahead of Long as a result of that. He needs goals but to get that he needs the service, his workrate has been excellent in the last few games although on Sunday I thought he worked hard but with little impact.


As did Doyle, service is everything for a Striker and there wasn't a lot of it on Sunday.


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