Rumour- Manset to Chesterfied.

[Kitsondinho]

Rumours doing the rounds up here that Manset is wanted by Chesterfield. This comes from a senior member of their supporters club, who is in close contact with members of their board. The story goes that when Manset was at Hereford, he impressed the Chesterfield management team and scouts. They are now prepared to pay 'big money' for him. If there is any truth in it, I can't see him being sold. He may go on loan, but I doubt very much we would sell him.

[chandog]

wouldnt be a bad thing imo. im not a massive fan of the beast so if we could get a decent fee for him i would be happy for this to happen.

a loan would also be good as he needs regular football and it will give us a stronger indication of what he is capable of as a first team player rather than as the impact sub that we tend to use him as

[roadrunner]

Rumours doing the rounds up here that Manset is wanted by Chesterfield. This comes from a senior member of their supporters club, who is in close contact with members of their board. The story goes that when Manset was at Hereford, he impressed the Chesterfield management team and scouts. They are now prepared to pay 'big money' for him. If there is any truth in it, I can't see him being sold. He may go on loan, but I doubt very much we would sell him.

"big money" to them isn't big money to us. A loan move might do him some good, but flogging him for peanuts at this stage isn't worth it.

[rfc2001]

I like the Beast and for me he has a future at Reading. So a loan move for a year would do wonders for him. No fitness like match fitness!!

[Hoop Blah]

If we can get our money back on him I'd probably be inclined to let him go.

I don't think a loan is really going to help us as it's games at this level that he needs to progress and prove he can contribute on a regular basis for us. I'm not convinced that he's shown enough quality to be a Championship forward and one worthy of blocking the progress of others in the club who may well be ready to step up in the near future.

[Snowball]

I don't think we can really know until he gets an extended run

IMO he has shown flashes of real possibiltiy, and he's still quite young

[Drew_3]

My problem with Manset has always been his fitness. Whilst I would like to see him be a success here,after a year of our staff working on him, I can't see this improving much more.

[Ian Royal]

I think he's a good player to have around on the bench for an impact, but probably isn't going to make it as a quality starter at this level. He certainly offers something different to Hunt, ALF and Church.

I'd hang on a bit longer personally.

[peterroyal76]

My problem with Manset has always been his fitness. Whilst I would like to see him be a success here,after a year of our staff working on him, I can't see this improving much more.

I do think you're right about his fitness not improving much more, I also agree with Ian that we shouldn't give up yet.
To really improve his fitness he needs to play 90 minutes every week and at the moment that won't be with us, so a loan spell will do all parties good.

[Handsome Man]

Big money for them would probably be simply paying his wages. If they can do that, then we should let him go on a free transfer. He is just too ungainly and unfit for this level.

[Hoop Blah]

I don't think we can really know until he gets an extended run

IMO he has shown flashes of real possibiltiy, and he's still quite young

The key for me is that he's had chances and not taken them. Even when we've been crying out for a player who could do something different and create something, or a bit of a lump to win and hold onto the ball in the opposition half, McDermott hasn't trusted him to do play a significant part.

Add that to his pretty obvious fitness issues and I'm not at all convinced he'll make the grade.

[Ian Royal]

I don't think we can really know until he gets an extended run

IMO he has shown flashes of real possibiltiy, and he's still quite young

The key for me is that he's had chances and not taken them. Even when we've been crying out for a player who could do something different and create something, or a bit of a lump to win and hold onto the ball in the opposition half, McDermott hasn't trusted him to do play a significant part.

Add that to his pretty obvious fitness issues and I'm not at all convinced he'll make the grade.

Difficult to keep 4 strikers capable of making a solid impact in the starting eleven happy though. Hard to see him being upset as a back up and bench warmer at this level. Ideally we'd then have two of Church, Hunt & ALF to partner a real quality goalscorer.

Maybe one of those three can step into that breach, but to be honest it'd be Hunt or Church I'd be looking to ship out to allow us to bring in someone fit for the first team. Amd I'd probably be looking to do that in the summer, not now. Rather than trying to improve on Manset. He's clearly 4th choice, but I don't think he's had a huge amount of opportunity to stake his claim with Church, Hunt and ALF all having goal flurries and being fitter.

He's got a decent number of goals off the bench too.

[Snowball]

I don't think we can really know until he gets an extended run

IMO he has shown flashes of real possibiltiy, and he's still quite young

The key for me is that he's had chances and not taken them. Even when we've been crying out for a player who could do something different and create something, or a bit of a lump to win and hold onto the ball in the opposition half, McDermott hasn't trusted him to do play a significant part.

Add that to his pretty obvious fitness issues and I'm not at all convinced he'll make the grade.

966 Minutes for RFC and 5 Goals, a goal every 194 Minutes, which is EXCELLENT
considering he's raw, just 22 and has stepped up a class or two.

This season he's played 536 minutes for 3 goals,
better than a goal every 180 minutes

[Snowball]

I know these are at different levels, but here's career minutes played per goal


168 Le Fondre
213 Manset
218 Shane Long
239 Hunt
285 Church
364 HRK
385 Antonio
450 Kebe
779 McAnuff

[Elmer Park]

Manset has a number of shortcomings to his game but has made some useful contributions on a few occasions so in my opinion it's a bit too early to sell him for the sort of money Chesterfield would be able to afford. I agree with those who say a loan spell might benefit him, in particular to see if he can overcome his match fitness issues.

[RoyalJames101]

I know these are at different levels, but here's career minutes played per goal


168 Le Fondre
213 Manset
218 Shane Long
239 Hunt
285 Church
364 HRK
385 Antonio
450 Kebe
779 McAnuff

Doesn't play for us anymore m8.

[melonhead]

really?


still think in the context of looking at manset, our best championship striker in years is a good bench mark whether hes still here or not

[Hoop Blah]

966 Minutes for RFC and 5 Goals, a goal every 194 Minutes, which is EXCELLENT
considering he's raw, just 22 and has stepped up a class or two.

This season he's played 536 minutes for 3 goals,
better than a goal every 180 minutes

None of which changes the fact that the manager doesn't rate him above the other options in the squad and he's only started him in 4 games. Now he might improve enough to really push for a starting place but personally I can't see that at the moment.

I doubt he's costing us too much to keep around as 4th choice but I'd just rather we don't keep a player around if it might be blocking others from progressing or is getting in a better long term option.

[Ian Royal]

:roll:

really?


still think in the context of looking at manset, our best championship striker in years is a good bench mark whether hes still here or not

What's this got to do with Kitson?

[SCIAG]

I rate Manset. Maybe a loan would do him good, but only if he's going to start every week and we're going to give Taylor a spell in the side (even if that's from the bench).