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Re: Should Sig stay?

by Harpers So Solid Crew » 20 Mar 2010 07:15

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=97585

and was top of page when yopu posted!!! :P

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Re: PSV scouting Gylfi!!!

by The Real Sandhurst Royal » 20 Mar 2010 10:03

Let him go only if the price is right and should both parties be agreeable sign him back on loan for a full season.

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Re: Should Sig stay?

by Royal_Delight » 20 Mar 2010 11:16

Harpers So Solid Crew http://hobnob.royals.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=97585

and was top of page when yopu posted!!! :P


That thread says that PSV are scouting Sig. This thread says that Premier League clubs want him and whether should we sell him. See the link I posted.

From the Reading Chronicle:

'IVAR Ingimarsson believes Reading face a battle to keep hold of Gylfi Sigurdsson with a string of Premier League clubs tracking the hugely talented youngster.'

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Re: Should Sig stay?

by Tails » 20 Mar 2010 11:31

Keep until Scott Davies has matured. Are we the new Crewe?

However, it seems rather strange to have this mentality and say we should sell for a 7 figure some so we can buy new players, why not just keep the ones we have until the books need to be balanced.

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Re: Should Sig stay?

by Franchise FC » 20 Mar 2010 11:53

Tails Keep until Scott Davies has matured. Are we the new Crewe?

However, it seems rather strange to have this mentality and say we should sell for a 7 figure some so we can buy new players, why not just keep the ones we have until the books need to be balanced.


How about - because the player may want to play at the highest level and we should not be trying to keep players that don't want to be here (Nicky Shorey / Stephen Hunt anyone)


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Re: Should Sig stay?

by rg6royal » 20 Mar 2010 12:05

Silly thread. I think we all know the answer to this question.

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Re: PSV scouting Gylfi!!!

by rg6royal » 20 Mar 2010 12:07

He's an idiot if he moves abroad to a team like PSV.

If he does then lets hope he doesn't get wasted.

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Re: PSV scouting Gylfi!!!

by Terminal Boardom » 20 Mar 2010 14:55

If I was The Sig and a club of the stature of PSV came calling I would be interested.

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Re: Should Sig stay?

by Tails » 20 Mar 2010 16:39

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Tails Keep until Scott Davies has matured. Are we the new Crewe?

However, it seems rather strange to have this mentality and say we should sell for a 7 figure some so we can buy new players, why not just keep the ones we have until the books need to be balanced.


How about - because the player may want to play at the highest level and we should not be trying to keep players that don't want to be here (Nicky Shorey / Stephen Hunt anyone)


Thats fair enough, but I am commenting on factors WE control (by 'we', I mean the club). When/if we come to a situation that you have brought up, then of course it would not be viable to retain his services.

Just to reiterate for you, I am uninterested with the aforementioned defeatest philosphy - but if you want to widen the discussion (a-la players WANTING a move), don't assume what I believe.


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Re: PSV scouting Gylfi!!!

by Terminal Boardom » 20 Mar 2010 19:32

Ideal
Terminal Boardom If I was The Sig and a club of the stature of PSV came calling I would be interested.


I don't know what you are on about. "Stature" my butt.
The dutch league is a backyard nowhere league, and PSV don't have the money to be paying the sort of fee he would command.
This is a total no-brainer, never going to happen, never going to be any question of it.

What's the next rumour, "Sig to move to Norway for £50M"?


Hell of a bigger tradition and history than we will ever have. Along with Ajax and Feijenoord one of the biggest clubs in The Netherlands. Compare that to what we have. Sorry chap, but it's a no brainer.

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Re: PSV scouting Gylfi!!!

by skipper » 21 Mar 2010 10:35

Ideal Eh, you have got to be kidding.
There is no way on earth he would take the STEP DOWN to play for PSV.
Backyard two-horse league, low wages and a bad career move in general.
I'm sure even we pay higher wages than PSV could afford.
He'd get better wages in Norway FFS.

I'm suprised that any of you even buy into this rumour, is your impression of dutch football that bizarre?


Am I missing something here or are PSV not one of the big Dutch clubs? Ajax / Fey / PSV... What are their stadiums like? Capasity? Wages? Come on it has to be better than ours... Two leagues? What like every other european league structure - the Italian and Belgium 2nd leagues are both worse than our championship, so its hardly abnormal. PSV must play european football each year don't they?

FIll me in...

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Re: PSV scouting Gylfi!!!

by Royal Rother » 21 Mar 2010 11:08

Stranded Any bid of £2m+ will see him go I would venture.


I really doubt that. I think it would take £4m.

Not that this is the only justification but we bought Mills for a deal rising to £2m and he had a far lower profile than Sigurdsson, plus goalscoring midfielders are more in demand than central defenders.

Having said that I would imagine that another year of guaranteed first team football would help his development far more than a potential bench warming exercise at another club, however good the coaching, facilities and wages.

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Re: Gylfi to leave ?!!!

by howser » 21 Mar 2010 11:11

This lad has tremendous ability, and is probably the best prospect we have had at Reading for many a year, Sidwell was outstanding for us, and he spends most of his time warming a bench, but this boy has more in his locker, I only hope for his footballing future that he doesnt waste it by going to a mid/lower Premier club, he looks the "real deal"

Caution needs to be heeded by both him and his advisors, this is only his first full season and the Premiership reserve league is littered with young players who have starred in the Championship for one season and not moved up to the next gear.

Surly for his own development he should stay and mature his ability so he can take his place in a top team, he, after all a young lad learning his trade at the moment, albeit a bit of potential real class.


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Re: PSV scouting Gylfi!!!

by Royalee » 21 Mar 2010 11:22

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Terminal Boardom If I was The Sig and a club of the stature of PSV came calling I would be interested.


I don't know what you are on about. "Stature" my butt.
The dutch league is a backyard nowhere league, and PSV don't have the money to be paying the sort of fee he would command.
This is a total no-brainer, never going to happen, never going to be any question of it.

What's the next rumour, "Sig to move to Norway for £50M"?


Hell of a bigger tradition and history than we will ever have. Along with Ajax and Feijenoord one of the biggest clubs in The Netherlands. Compare that to what we have. Sorry chap, but it's a no brainer.



Wimbledon have a bigger history and tradition than we have, should he step down to the Blue Square if they come calling?

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Re: Gylfi to leave ?!!!

by yappy » 21 Mar 2010 11:41

Ideal I'm pretty sure Mills is on higher wages at RFC than the highest earner playing for PSV. So this is a total no-go if you ask me, no way would Sig want to go to Holland when he is already in England, and no way would they be able to offer competitive wages.


Don't believe that for a second. A club that consistently plays in Europe, with an average gate of around 35,000, can't offer more than a team 'cutting the cloth?'

Yes England and Spain are the two leagues everyone wants to play in, but lets be realistic, PSV would be a massive step up for Gylfi.

PSV >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reading

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Re: Gylfi to leave ?!!!

by Smoking Kills Dancing Doe » 21 Mar 2010 12:33

People really should learn not to make themselves look such idiots, but they haven't yet after all these years, so I doubt they will now.

PSV is the sort of club where you go before you get a massive, massive move. Top European clubs would be all over him if he played well there.

However we don't have to sell, he won't force a move this summer, so unless someone overs silly money of say over £5m-£6m, why would we sell?

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Re: Gylfi to leave ?!!!

by FiNeRaIn » 21 Mar 2010 16:10

Ideal, you are talking so much s**t I can't believe you are actually being serious. They could treble our wage budget, offer European football and a chance to compete domestically to win the league. Their history, tradition and reputation again is much higher than ours, what are you talking about?

If PSV came in with an offer and they could easily afford 2-3 million on a player - he would go there if we accepted. However, we might well hold out for more of a Premier league club and if one came in, there is a good chance he may opt for a mid table prem team over PSV. If it came to a straight decision between PSV or Reading..he'd choose PSV.

Gylfi has move to a different country, learnt the language and culture and showed determination at a young age to come to England, I can't see someone with that drive and determination turning down a chance to further his career with a move to PSV.

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Re: Gylfi to leave ?!!!

by Royal Rother » 21 Mar 2010 18:23

In 2007/8 PSV had a turnover of €138m, and made a pre-tax profit of €30m.

Small-time Charlies.

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Re: Gylfi to leave ?!!!

by FiNeRaIn » 21 Mar 2010 20:16

Ideal
FiNeRaIn They could treble our wage budget


Did you dream this up? Or did you just make an outrageous claim based on a figment of your imagination?
I would like to try to see things from your point of view, but I don't know if I'll manage to stick my head up your ass far enough.

If they could treble our wage budget, then please explain why these clubs resort to signings such as Carney, rather than just signing Luca Toni and C. Ronaldo.
The fact of the matter is Dutch football is not rife with money, and wages there are significantly lower than in England, Spain or Italy.
But then I forgot who I am explaining this to, a person who actually thinks what they do in Scotland is remotely related to football.


You're a tosser of the highest order and one of the biggest laughing stocks of the board, so I take any insults from you with a grain of salt.

You live in your own little world based on your arguments here. Reading or PSV? Honestly, just an embarrassing LOL aimed at you. Reading's top earner next season will probably be around 15k-ish MAX, I would hazard a guess that PSV's are in excess of 40k, this is just my personal opinion though so id be interested to hear the opinions from PSV fans as they are in a better position to know, infact to shut you up once and for all I may create a user name on their forums and ask them. They probably haven't heard of Reading as they don't tend to play us in the champions league much though.

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Re: Gylfi to leave ?!!!

by Hoop Blah » 22 Mar 2010 07:37

That quote goes back to 2007 and he signed for Newcastle when they were probably one of the top paying clubs in the world! Hardly conclusive proof Ideal!

PSV might not be able to compete with Premiership wages, but I still think a young Championship player like Sigurdsson would be well within their budget and be quite an apealing, if only for the chance of impressing during a European campaign.

I think a more likely move would be to a mid-table Prem club with a season loan back to the Championship to further his development. That way he gets the games he needs to keep learning and improving whilst getting that improved contract at a Premiership club.

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