Howard Webb, chosen as WC 2010 ref.

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Howard Webb, chosen as WC 2010 ref.

by parky » 16 Feb 2010 00:10

http://www.footballreferee.org/refreene ... hp?nid=392

Howard Webb, Mike Mullarkey, and Darren Cann have been chosen as England's team for the 2010 World Cup,

Great choice IMHO best ref team in the country.

http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/tournam ... 10fwc2.pdf

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Full list of 'trios' and looking at that, The two that stand out are Rosetti from Italy and Mr Webb. Could see an englishman referee the final as long as there are no cock ups

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Re: Howard Webb, chosen as WC 2010 ref.

by Compo's Hat » 16 Feb 2010 03:15

Has had better seasons then the one he's currently having though.

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Re: Howard Webb, chosen as WC 2010 ref.

by Barry the bird boggler » 16 Feb 2010 07:46

Howard Webb....

Wasn't he the unfortunate who took charge of our 2-1 defeat at Walsall in November 2000 and was castigated by all, as, shall we say, not very good....

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Re: Howard Webb, chosen as WC 2010 ref.

by No Fixed Abode » 16 Feb 2010 10:20

Best refs are the ones you don't notice. HW is always noticed.

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Re: Howard Webb, chosen as WC 2010 ref.

by The Real Sandhurst Royal » 16 Feb 2010 10:21

Howard Webb has a good chance of being selected to referee the final should England not make it.


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Re: Howard Webb, chosen as WC 2010 ref.

by premiership_bound » 16 Feb 2010 11:08

The Real Sandhurst Royal Howard Webb has a good chance of being selected to referee the final should England not make it.


The same was said about Poll and look what happened to him :lol:

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Re: Howard Webb, chosen as WC 2010 ref.

by soggy biscuit » 16 Feb 2010 11:14

LOLz @ interweb football fans slating some of the worlds best referee's

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Re: Howard Webb, chosen as WC 2010 ref.

by bobbybottler » 16 Feb 2010 11:18

parky Could see an englishman referee the final as long as there are no cock ups

Doubt it, there's a FIFA regulation in place now to avoid English refs after Jack Taylor shat himself from start to finish in the 1974 WC Final.

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Re: Howard Webb, chosen as WC 2010 ref.

by handbags_harris » 16 Feb 2010 11:30

No Fixed Abode Best refs are the ones you don't notice. HW is always noticed.


What a f*ckin sh*t argument you always pose, whether it's a fising attempt or not. You're telling me, in this case, that for a referee to officiate well in a game he has to not be noticed? Even if he has three or four big decisions to make in a game, and gets those decisions spot on? If he has to make a big decision in a game (and every referee will have to in almost every game he officiates in), that decisions, coupled with the referee's positioning and decision making process will be scrutinised whether he's right or wrong. He has therefore, by default, been noticed. If the decisions are correct, does that still mean he has hada bad game because of the scrutiny brought upon himself by the decision he has to make?

Howard Webb is regarded by many as England's best referee, and therefore has to live up to those standards set both by himself and others. He does so on a game-by-game basis, and his good games are far outweighed by his bad ones. It's certainly a much better choice than Mike Riley in 2004 (anyone remember that embarrassing decision to award an indirect free kick instead of a penalty in a Sweden game in that tournament?), or Graham Poll in 2006 (3 yellows and all that). Yeah, he made a controversial decision in 2008, awarding a crucial last minute penalty for a shirt pull, but the decision was correct. He never courts controversy, or public limelight, (unlike one of the other's I've mentioned) isn't bullied on the pitch (unlike the other I've mentioned - "Ashley, turn around, I'm talking to you! Ashley!! Ashley!!" Yellow card produced). Best choice for the job IMO.


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Re: Howard Webb, chosen as WC 2010 ref.

by parky » 16 Feb 2010 11:43

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parky Could see an englishman referee the final as long as there are no cock ups

Doubt it, there's a FIFA regulation in place now to avoid English refs after Jack Taylor shat himself from start to finish in the 1974 WC Final.


No he didn't, he refereed the game well, was so calm and rose to the occasion, he managed to notice the lack of corner flags at the start of the game. Some referee's would have been nervous of the game, Jack Taylor was defiantly not one of them.

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Re: Howard Webb, chosen as WC 2010 ref.

by No Fixed Abode » 16 Feb 2010 12:02

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No Fixed Abode Best refs are the ones you don't notice. HW is always noticed.


What a f*ckin sh*t argument you always pose, whether it's a fising attempt or not. You're telling me, in this case, that for a referee to officiate well in a game he has to not be noticed? Even if he has three or four big decisions to make in a game, and gets those decisions spot on? If he has to make a big decision in a game (and every referee will have to in almost every game he officiates in), that decisions, coupled with the referee's positioning and decision making process will be scrutinised whether he's right or wrong. He has therefore, by default, been noticed. If the decisions are correct, does that still mean he has hada bad game because of the scrutiny brought upon himself by the decision he has to make?

Howard Webb is regarded by many as England's best referee, and therefore has to live up to those standards set both by himself and others. He does so on a game-by-game basis, and his good games are far outweighed by his bad ones. It's certainly a much better choice than Mike Riley in 2004 (anyone remember that embarrassing decision to award an indirect free kick instead of a penalty in a Sweden game in that tournament?), or Graham Poll in 2006 (3 yellows and all that). Yeah, he made a controversial decision in 2008, awarding a crucial last minute penalty for a shirt pull, but the decision was correct. He never courts controversy, or public limelight, (unlike one of the other's I've mentioned) isn't bullied on the pitch (unlike the other I've mentioned - "Ashley, turn around, I'm talking to you! Ashley!! Ashley!!" Yellow card produced). Best choice for the job IMO.


I'm not reading all that.

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Re: Howard Webb, chosen as WC 2010 ref.

by parky » 16 Feb 2010 12:07

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No Fixed Abode Best refs are the ones you don't notice. HW is always noticed.


What a f*ckin sh*t argument you always pose, whether it's a fising attempt or not. You're telling me, in this case, that for a referee to officiate well in a game he has to not be noticed? Even if he has three or four big decisions to make in a game, and gets those decisions spot on? If he has to make a big decision in a game (and every referee will have to in almost every game he officiates in), that decisions, coupled with the referee's positioning and decision making process will be scrutinised whether he's right or wrong. He has therefore, by default, been noticed. If the decisions are correct, does that still mean he has hada bad game because of the scrutiny brought upon himself by the decision he has to make?

Howard Webb is regarded by many as England's best referee, and therefore has to live up to those standards set both by himself and others. He does so on a game-by-game basis, and his good games are far outweighed by his bad ones. It's certainly a much better choice than Mike Riley in 2004 (anyone remember that embarrassing decision to award an indirect free kick instead of a penalty in a Sweden game in that tournament?), or Graham Poll in 2006 (3 yellows and all that). Yeah, he made a controversial decision in 2008, awarding a crucial last minute penalty for a shirt pull, but the decision was correct. He never courts controversy, or public limelight, (unlike one of the other's I've mentioned) isn't bullied on the pitch (unlike the other I've mentioned - "Ashley, turn around, I'm talking to you! Ashley!! Ashley!!" Yellow card produced). Best choice for the job IMO.


He still didn't go any further because he was let down by Mullarkey who missed an offside for the first goal in that game.

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Re: Howard Webb, chosen as WC 2010 ref.

by bobbybottler » 16 Feb 2010 12:40

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parky Could see an englishman referee the final as long as there are no cock ups

Doubt it, there's a FIFA regulation in place now to avoid English refs after Jack Taylor shat himself from start to finish in the 1974 WC Final.


No he didn't, he refereed the game well, was so calm and rose to the occasion, he managed to notice the lack of corner flags at the start of the game. Some referee's would have been nervous of the game, Jack Taylor was defiantly not one of them.

He was abysmal.

He was verbally intimidated by Beckenbauer after giving the first pen, he spent the rest of the first half waiting for someone German to fall over in the penalty area and eventually Holzenbein obliged with a shocking contact-free dive. He bottled doing anything about Vogts persistent fouling of Cruyff after booking him (Vogts) after three minutes, knowing that he'd be sending Vogts off. When Cruyff legitimately complained to Taylor about it (in English) at the halftime whistle, he was booked instead.

A textbook case of favouring the home side, it was a shocker from start to finish. I'll give you the corner flag business though!
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Re: Howard Webb, chosen as WC 2010 ref.

by statto » 16 Feb 2010 12:42

He looks 'ard as well, unlike Mike Riley, who looks like a sperm.

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Re: Howard Webb, chosen as WC 2010 ref.

by paultheroyal » 16 Feb 2010 12:54

Webb is a quality referee, up there with Alan Wiley. If Probert makes it to the FIFA list then by all means worry!!!!!!

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Re: Howard Webb, chosen as WC 2010 ref.

by Barry the bird boggler » 16 Feb 2010 14:45

Wonder if he'll be asking Graham Poll for any advice.

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Re: Howard Webb, chosen as WC 2010 ref.

by parky » 16 Feb 2010 14:46

Barry the bird boggler Wonder if he'll be asking Graham Poll for any advice.


Webb has done a major tournament before, and he will have done the same number as Poll after this one

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