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[AthleticoSpizz]

One match ban....was it worth the bother? probably would've been dropped anyway.

[Winston Smith]

Watched Patrick Berger absolute tear De Goey, Lambourde etc to pieces on some Sky Sports Classic type thing in the gym at lunch.

[genome]

John Terry has lost his appeal against the red card he received against Peterborough in the FA Cup.

But there was no contact so what do you give it for?

[Zammo]

John Terry has lost his appeal against the red card he received against Peterborough in the FA Cup.

But there was no contact so what do you give it for?

In fairness, I didn't give it.....the ref did. I would have sent Terry off during the warm up.

[Ian Royal]

Not that far outside the box, and the attacker could have easily got a shot away before the cover came across.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38550100

If CLoL had been making a proper attempt at tackle he'd have probably got just a yellow, mind.

Yeah, it'd still be a poor argument.

I can't see from that clip that there's definitively no contact. The referee almost certainly can't see from that angle that there's no contact, assuming there is no contact. Kes appears to be stupidly conflating his argument for being sent off for denying a clear goalscoring opportunity (I presume the offence for this) with being sent off for use of excessive force in a foul, the last incident where contact definitely isn't needed.

[Platypuss]

Playing in a dangerous manner
Playing in a dangerous manner is any action that, while trying to play the
ball, threatens injury to someone (including the player themself) and includes
preventing a nearby opponent from playing the ball for fear of injury.

[Ian Royal]

Playing in a dangerous manner
Playing in a dangerous manner is any action that, while trying to play the
ball, threatens injury to someone (including the player themself) and includes
preventing a nearby opponent from playing the ball for fear of injury.

Don't think you could describe Terry's challenge as dangerous at all.

[AthleticoSpizz]

Playing in a dangerous manner
Playing in a dangerous manner is any action that, while trying to play the
ball, threatens injury to someone (including the player themself) and includes
preventing a nearby opponent from playing the ball for fear of injury.

Don't think you could describe Terry's challenge as dangerous at all.

oafish might be more appropriate

[stealthpapes]

Isn't it simply a red card as the referee thought that the attacking player had a clear goal scoring opportunity and that Terry commited a foul under the following:

A direct free kick is awarded if a player commits any of the following offences against an opponent in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force ... trips or attempts to trip.

Not entirely where the 'no contact' thing has come from. Wishful thinking?

[Ian Royal]

Isn't it simply a red card as the referee thought that the attacking player had a clear goal scoring opportunity and that Terry commited a foul under the following:

A direct free kick is awarded if a player commits any of the following offences against an opponent in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force ... trips or attempts to trip.

Not entirely where the 'no contact' thing has come from. Wishful thinking?

That was along my lines of thinking but I couldn't be bothered to look it up.

On 'no contact' Apparently Kes once saw a retired referee say one particular incident wasn't a foul because there was no contact (although he's not the most reliable or quick witted of sources) so if you fail to make contact it's not a foul. Even if you pull a machete out of your shorts and swing wildly at someone as you chase them round the pitch threatening to kill them. Or something.

[Platypuss]

The new IFAB guidahnce does place more emphasis on whether contact is made or not for a number of cautionable offences.

[No Fixed Abode]

John Terry has lost his appeal against the red card he received against Peterborough in the FA Cup.

No surprise there. I think we have a 99.9% failure r8 with appeals.

There was no contact so I'm not sure why they didn't rescind the decision. Remember Loic Remy at Stoke last season. He had to hurdle the keeper to avoid getting clattered, tried to stay on his feet but lost his balance. Prevented a definite goal. Ref never gave it and Howard Webb backed him up saying "There was no contact so what do you give a penalty for?"

So in this instance, "there was no contact so what do you give the free kick and red card for?"...

[LUX]

was it because he's a pcunt?

SF gave the reason a few days ago, Kes, stop wondering aloud.

[No Fixed Abode]

Playing in a dangerous manner
Playing in a dangerous manner is any action that, while trying to play the
ball, threatens injury to someone (including the player themself) and includes
preventing a nearby opponent from playing the ball for fear of injury.

Thanks for backing up JT here.

[WoodleyRoyal]

agree with kes here, never a red

[No Fixed Abode]

Meeting tonight and hopefully we will get the go-ahead for what will be the best stadium in the World.

[double d]

It looks shite. Like one of those things you put an apple in to de-core it.

[genome]

[Stranded]

John Terry has lost his appeal against the red card he received against Peterborough in the FA Cup.

No surprise there. I think we have a 99.9% failure r8 with appeals.

There was no contact so I'm not sure why they didn't rescind the decision. Remember Loic Remy at Stoke last season. He had to hurdle the keeper to avoid getting clattered, tried to stay on his feet but lost his balance. Prevented a definite goal. Ref never gave it and Howard Webb backed him up saying "There was no contact so what do you give a penalty for?"

So in this instance, "there was no contact so what do you give the free kick and red card for?"...

Does it matter Kes, looks like he may be a Bournemouth player in the next few days anyway.

[From Despair To Where?]

Remember Loic Remy at Stoke last season. He had to hurdle the keeper to avoid getting clattered, tried to stay on his feet but lost his balance. Prevented a definite goal.

I'd be a bit pissed off if my keeper didn't try to prevent a goal, You really cant compare an outfield player to a keeper.

For what it's worth, Terry's red card was harsh but you can understand why it was given. The challenge was clumsy, nowhere near the ball and it caused the attacker to go to ground which denied a goal scoring opportunity.