RG30Seal To 100% clarify, England have dropped out of 2022 bid but are still firmly in the bid for 2018.
Reason being that 2018 will definitely go to 'Europe', in which case there's no point going for 2022 as that definitely will not.
All sources pointing to a Russia win for 2018. Unfortunately England just don't play the game with FIFA as well as others. There is also a macro trend of world sports events going to emerging (particularly BRIC) economies, which plays into Russia's hand:-
2008 Olympics Beijing
2010 World Cup South Africa
2010 Commonwealth Games Delhi
2014 Winter Olympics Sochi (Russia)
2014 World Cup Brazil
2016 Olympics Rio
2018....
You get the picture.
Would like Oz to win 2022, but think it will go to US (FIFA will want a big pay day to be guaranteed in the future after taking the tournament to emerging economies).
One of England or US will win for this reason, and I think it will be the US as their bid has less powerful rivals than England's - which apart from Russia is also competing against a strong Spanish / Portuguese bid)
Good call Seal with Russia
1/2 not too bad. But Qatar even astonished me! Apparently all down to power broking between Blatter & Bin Hammam i.e. - you put your presidential ambition on hold and in return I'll support the Qatari bid...
Oh well...Brazil should be great anyway!