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Re: Coppell

by Terminal Boardom » 03 Jan 2010 15:10

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Royalee So now you're all blaming him for taking the job in the first place and calling him a fool for it? :lol:


No he's being blamed for taking a job he clearly had no idea how to do with the resources available.


Having 'no idea how to do' and laying the foundations towards a long term plan only to find out 4 months of football later that the chairman was only focused on the short-term are two very different things - I wouldn't expect you to realise that though. Another manager could have signed a load of journeymen to keep us up this season, but they'd cost more money and we'd be left in exactly the same position next year.


Evidence please

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Re: Coppell

by sandman » 03 Jan 2010 15:11

He failed brick for brains. Move on and cut out the Smithers routine.

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Re: Coppell

by Royalee » 03 Jan 2010 15:12

Sacking a manager after less than 5 months of football and 1 transfer window after losing £12 million worth of players.

No more evidence necessary.

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Re: Coppell

by Ian Royal » 03 Jan 2010 15:16

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Royalee So now you're all blaming him for taking the job in the first place and calling him a fool for it? :lol:


No he's being blamed for taking a job he clearly had no idea how to do with the resources available.


Having 'no idea how to do' and laying the foundations towards a long term plan only to find out 4 months of football later that the chairman was only focused on the short-term are two very different things - I wouldn't expect you to realise that though. Another manager could have signed a load of journeymen to keep us up this season, but they'd cost more money and we'd be left in exactly the same position next year.



Laying the foundations for the long term with no attention to staying up is a very good sign you have no idea what you're doing. Especially seeing as virtually none of his signings were both successful and long term.

Bertrand - one year loan
O'Dea - six month loan
Rasiak - older journeyman
Cummings - inexperienced and not great
McAnuff - only one that really counts as a success and for the medium future
Mills - barely played him, no preseason, doesn't seem to be the player he was described as.
Howard - not shown a great deal probably second in the successful long term category..

Putting your entire plan for the season on signing one player from a club that aren't happy with you is also rather foolish.

Given we desperately needed pace at centreback, a couple of good strikers and a right back just for this season, let alone the long term it's a pretty big failure right there.

No good looking at and reaching for the stars if you fail to see the open manhole and fall down it.

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Re: Coppell

by sandman » 03 Jan 2010 15:17

Being sacked is all the evidence needed Smithers. It doesn't matter how long your in the job if you're sacked you've failed.


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Re: Coppell

by Maguire » 03 Jan 2010 15:18

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Maguire his ill-judged and premature dismissal somehow makes them "right".


And equally calling the sacking ill-judged and premature somehow makes it ill-judged and premature? As I said earlier, only the board's opinion matters - and they agreed with the nay-sayers.


Having an opinion isn't the same as trying to guess what the board will do. It was hardly a clear-cut case for dismissal, whichever side of the fence you happen to fall, so unfortunately we'll never know whether Rodgers would have cut the mustard long term or not.

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Re: Coppell

by Ian Royal » 03 Jan 2010 15:19

He may have lost a fair few good players, but he also failed to successfully clear out a lot of the dross that was left and instead played everyone using some sort of random rota. Rather than building a core squad and sticking to it, using the back up players only as necessary.

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Re: Coppell

by floyd__streete » 03 Jan 2010 15:20

To be honest, all this petty squabbling is pointless; nobody is totally right, nobody is absolutely wrong and as Reading supporters we all lose because our team are in the sh*t. Besides, I am not arguing with Maguire because he is bigger than me.

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Re: Coppell

by Rax » 03 Jan 2010 15:30

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RoyaLOLee in clutching at straws shocker!

I can't believe you're still prepared to fight the BR corner when most 'sane' people accept that his ineptitude was plain for all to see.


Another idiot unable to put together a proper argument.


There's no point in arguing with a fool.

However, to ease your troubled mind....

BR's shortcomings were plain to see - FACT
We are in relegation trouble thanks to his tenure - FACT
The board thought it was time for change - FACT

Unfortunately rightly or wrongly a manager is simply judged by his results - therefore sorry Lee, but in the cold light of day history will not be kind to BR

Now stop being a fool and play nicely - calling me an idiot for simply having an opinion different to yours is laughable :wink:


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Re: Coppell

by Royal_Delight » 03 Jan 2010 15:38

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Royal_Delight Coppell back as manager or football consultant could be a good thing. In fact, he is the only one who knows how to deal with Madman's cloth cutting spree. His ability to scout talent also puts McDermott to shame!


Long, Golbourne, Bennett, Oster, Halls, Sodje, Moonng off Cox, Stack, Fae, Halford, Eric Chunkwelo...????(Sonko's mate).....I bet McDermott wisheey, pissid he had the final say on them.



Mooney was not given a chance. Loaned out to Norwich as he had no Championship experience. Rogers fault for loaning him out again.

Long apparently scored quite a number of goals last season while Doyle was injured.

Oster was injured and wasn't the same after the injury.

Fae had a falling out with Coppell together with Sonko as they did not want to play a reserve match. Coppell than stated that Fae would never play in a Reading shirt ever again.

Halford IMO is a great player with a good long throw. Apparently working wonders at Wolves at the moment

The rest were reserve players and IMO they could not handle first team football so were shipped out

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Re: Coppell

by Maguire » 03 Jan 2010 15:45

floyd__streete To be honest, all this petty squabbling is pointless; nobody is totally right, nobody is absolutely wrong and as Reading supporters we all lose because our team are in the sh*t. Besides, I am not arguing with Maguire because he is bigger than me.


I agree with all of this.

Nobody comes out of it well really, particularly not mugs like us who pay to watch us get dicked by rubbish teams. I haven't seen Reading win a game, home or away, for just coming up to an entire year. How depressing is that.

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Re: Coppell

by Franchise FC » 03 Jan 2010 15:45

sandman Being sacked is all the evidence needed Smithers. It doesn't matter how long your in the job if you're sacked you've failed.


I give you .......... Claudio Ranieri

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Re: Coppell

by Royal_Delight » 03 Jan 2010 15:53

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sandman Being sacked is all the evidence needed Smithers. It doesn't matter how long your in the job if you're sacked you've failed.


I give you .......... Claudio Ranieri


I give you ......... Brendan Rogers!!! oh wait... :?


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Re: Coppell

by Barry the bird boggler » 03 Jan 2010 16:03

New book available on Coppell (note - there are other internet book retailers):

http://www.waterstones.com/waterstonesweb/displayProductDetails.do?sku=6816325

On a wing and a prayer by Stuart Roach....

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Re: Coppell

by Sun Tzu » 03 Jan 2010 19:23

The book looks interesting, although is very much about Coppell rather than having any input from him.

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Re: Coppell

by North Somerset Royal » 03 Jan 2010 19:55

Barry the bird boggler New book available on Coppell (note - there are other internet book retailers):

http://www.waterstones.com/waterstonesweb/displayProductDetails.do?sku=6816325

On a wing and a prayer by Stuart Roach....


Its also available in the Club shop and profits then go to the club.

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Re: Coppell

by 2.8 lita injection » 03 Jan 2010 20:15

I would certainly read the book if he tells the truth about how his hands were tied when Reading were in the epl.

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Re: Coppell

by brendywendy » 03 Jan 2010 20:17

2.8 lita injection I would certainly read the book if he tells the"truth " about how his hands were tied when Reading were in the epl.


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Re: Coppell

by Sun Tzu » 03 Jan 2010 20:17

If you think you know the 'truth' why would you need to read a book ?

I get all the truth I need from HNA.

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Re: Coppell

by Royalee » 03 Jan 2010 23:18

Ideal Rax, basic psychology offers an explanation for this situation.
Royalee's ego will not allow him to be proven wrong. He said Rodgers was the messiah, the 2nd Jesus.
So if he were to admit Rodgers was a failure, would be the same as to admit that his judgement on Rodgers was wrong.
His ego will simply not allow this to happen.
Therefore there has to be another explanation, something which means Rodgers was not a failure, and that he himself was never wrong.

So Royalee has constructed two scenarios where he can deny being wrong.
Firstly, "Rodgers was wrongly sacked, everyone loved him".
Secondly, "Rodgers was doing great, everything was the boards fault, no fault on Rodgers part".

So, as they say on Mythbusters - "I reject your reality and substitute my own", that is exactly what Royalee is doing. Rather than coming to terms with reality, his mind is creating a neurotic protection for his ego, he is altering reality to suit his ego rather than altering his own perception of reality to suit the actual reality of things.


LOL, you really are a f*cking moron. I might actually give a toss about what you have to say and take you seriously if you actually went to games. The fact that you want Marek to go sums you up, you are a total penis.

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