Team Stats

[Hoop Blah]

It would be iteresting if you compare it to other sides, without that context it won't tell you much.

My gut feeling is that you'll find the majority of goals are scored around half time (more after the whistle than before) and in the last 15/20 minutes of games.

I don't think we do anything special in the first half but the first 15/20 minutes of a game is often tighter because teams are jostling for superiority more than later in games (unless it's a tight game with little in it and neither willing to gamble on the win).

[Snowball]

Sadly Intelligent Design and Creationism get lots of support, it doesn't mean they're in anyway valid.

Although of course, plenty that you say is.

I have NO IDEA if this is a significant stat, and SAID So.

It's merely "one worth watching"


We might go 4-0 up in the first 15 minutes, Saturday.


Even then we might discover that McDermot has two strategies, one for tough games
Millwall-Leicester-Pompey (and virtually all away games) would be that.

and another for (relatively, subjectively) "easy" games


For example, we might expect lowly sides to come to the MadStad and "park the bus"

[Snowball]

It would be iteresting if you compare it to other sides, without that context it won't tell you much.

My gut feeling is that you'll find the majority of goals are scored around half time (more after the whistle than before) and in the last 15/20 minutes of games.

I don't think we do anything special in the first half but the first 15/20 minutes of a game is often tighter because teams are jostling for superiority more than later in games (unless it's a tight game with little in it and neither willing to gamble on the win).

No Idea. Tho' probably there are stats sites out there...

[RobRoyal]

Sadly Intelligent Design and Creationism get lots of support, it doesn't mean they're in anyway valid.

Although of course, plenty that you say is.

I have NO IDEA if this is a significant stat, and SAID So.

It's merely "one worth watching"


We might go 4-0 up in the first 15 minutes, Saturday.


Even then we might discover that McDermot has two strategies, one for tough games
Millwall-Leicester-Pompey (and virtually all away games) would be that.

and another for (relatively, subjectively) "easy" games


For example, we might expect lowly sides to come to the MadStad and "park the bus"

Or, you might eventually realise that there are a multitude of unquantifiable variables behind every game.

[Snowball]

Hey, Einstein, what would be "unquantifiable"
about an unusual amount of 0-0 halves,
or finding that we had (compared to other clubs)
an unusually leaky 15 minutes?


If MOST or all clubs played out 0-0 first halves
and most or all clubs most-of-the-time conceded
in the first 15 minutes or so of the second half
then there wouldn't be an issue.

Odd tactics, fitness, and God knows what else could figure
but myriad variability would not be one of them.

[Z175]

Mr Snowball,

I like stats in general but I don't find this particularly user friendly. Is it possible to make a slightly easier to read table?

I appreciate you have explained in text above how to interpret this table but if its to be a regularly updated post its hard to read it each time.


1 0 0.0 1.0 069 069 069 HRK
2 0 0.0 2.0 158 079 079 Manset
0 1 2.0 2.5 270 999 108 Kebe

1 0 0.0 0.0 248 248 248 Hunt
0 0 1.0 1.0 270 999 270 Harte
0 1 0.0 0.5 270 999 540 McAnuff
0 0 0.5 0.5 180 999 360 Griffin

0 0 0.0 0.0 240 999 999 Karacan
0 0 0.0 0.0 270 999 999 L'wood
0 0 0.0 0.0 270 999 999 Khumalo
0 0 0.5 0.0 270 999 540 Pearce
0 0 0.0 0.0 008 999 999 Howard
0 0 0.0 0.0 180 999 999 Federici

[Wycombe Royal]

Hey, Einstein, what would be "unquantifiable"

And the need to be sarcastic and call some Einstein was justifiable because......

People are allowed to question what you post you know....

[Snowball]

And of course Rob Royal wasn't being sarcastic.


Those loopy-loos among you who regularly trot-out the mantra that football is complicated
are preaching to the converted.

You think I don't KNOW football is complicated, that it involves luck and chance and fine margins?

With luck we could have scored 4-5 goals at Portsmouth

We could have conceded a similar number.


OCCASIONALLY that happens.

Pompey get unlucky and we have a 3/4/5-0 win or instead THEY win 4-0. I've seen the better side lose 4-0. It happens, but ON AVERAGE things work out. Anomalies will always arise, but they aren't what we base our longer-term judgments on.

Read Moneyball and see just what can be done by decent analysis.

In particular read what those analytical experts faced when they
first said the eye-ball in the heat of the moment is a lousy judge.


When I teach writing I say we study, analyse, dissect, test BETWEEN writing stories, but
when actually approaching a story we "write drunk" (meaning let go and just do it.)


It's the same with football. I watch as a fan but do NOT trust my subjective opinions over
a more measured, more objective, repeated study of tapes etc, and actual facts.

[Wycombe Royal]

And of course Rob Royal wasn't being sarcastic.

But didn't start calling you names.

As someone of advanced years you do behave very immaturely at times on here just becuase people dare to question your posts.

[Snowball]

Mr Snowball,

I like stats in general but I don't find this particularly user friendly. Is it possible to make a slightly easier to read table?

I appreciate you have explained in text above how to interpret this table but if its to be a regularly updated post its hard to read it each time.


1 0 0.0 1.0 069 069 069 HRK <<<<<<
2 0 0.0 2.0 158 079 079 Manset
0 1 2.0 2.5 270 999 108 Kebe

1 0 0.0 0.0 248 248 248 Hunt
0 0 1.0 1.0 270 999 270 Harte
0 1 0.0 0.5 270 999 540 McAnuff
0 0 0.5 0.5 180 999 360 Griffin

0 0 0.0 0.0 240 999 999 Karacan
0 0 0.0 0.0 270 999 999 L'wood
0 0 0.0 0.0 270 999 999 Khumalo
0 0 0.5 0.0 270 999 540 Pearce
0 0 0.0 0.0 008 999 999 Howard
0 0 0.0 0.0 180 999 999 Federici

All you need to know is that the last number (Example 69 HRK)
shows the number of minutes taken to score (worth a 1), assist (1), hit woodwork (.5) or half-assist (.5)

The higher up the list the more the player is contributing (per minute played)

[Snowball]

And of course Rob Royal wasn't being sarcastic.

But didn't start calling you names.

As someone of advanced years you do behave very immaturely at times on here just becuase people dare to question your posts.

Big Deal. What a crap post.


See? I didn't call you names, did I?

Saying "Einstein" is returning sarcasm. That is all.

[Wycombe Royal]

I rest my case.

[Snowball]

Mr Snowball,

I like stats in general but I don't find this particularly user friendly. Is it possible to make a slightly easier to read table?

I appreciate you have explained in text above how to interpret this table but if its to be a regularly updated post its hard to read it each time.


1 0 0.0 1.0 069 069 069 HRK

Zed, I have already changed it (Page 4)

Column 6 Minutes per Goal
Column 7 Minutes per Goal/Assist/Hit WW combined

Also showing "half-assists" whereas second player was clearly involved in the making of a goal, as was
Griffin's assistance to Kebe for the cross to Manset v Millwall, Pearce/Hunt v Leicseter

Last Column (eg HRK "every 43 minutes played", shows Goal (1), Hit Woodwork (.5), assist (1), or secondary assist (.5) )

The lower the number the more productive (attacking-wise) is the player.


1 Goal 0 HW 0.0 Assist Total 1.0 069 Minutes 069 069 HRK
2 Goal 0 HW 0.0 Assist Total 2.0 158 Minutes 079 079 Manset
1 Goal 0 HW 0.0 Assist Total 0.0 248 Minutes 248 248 Hunt

0 Goal 1 HW 2.0 Assist Total 2.5 270 Minutes 999 108 Kebe
0 Goal 0 HW 1.0 Assist Total 1.0 270 Minutes 999 270 Harte
0 Goal 0 HW 0.5 Assist Total 0.5 180 Minutes 999 360 Griffin
0 Goal 0 HW 0.5 Assist Total 0.5 270 Minutes 999 540 Pearce

0 Goal 1 HW 0.0 Assist Total 0.5 270 Minutes 999 540 McAnuff


0 0 0.0 0.0 240 999 999 Karacan
0 0 0.0 0.0 270 999 999 L'wood
0 0 0.0 0.0 270 999 999 Khumalo
0 0 0.0 0.0 008 999 999 Howard
0 0 0.0 0.0 180 999 999 Federici

[Z175]

Ah I see. Cheers!

I was confused by the 999s

[SpaghettiHoop]

It's a useful number if you need the police.

[Snowball]

Ah I see. Cheers!

I was confused by the 999s

Ah, sorry. Just put those in otherwise I get a divide by zero error

[Snowball]

Column 6 Minutes per Goal
Column 7 Minutes per Goal/Assist/Hit WW combined

Also showing "half-assists" whereas second player was clearly involved in the making of a goal, as was
Griffin's assistance to Kebe for the cross to Manset v Millwall, Pearce/Hunt v Leicester

Also giving an assist for winning a penalty

Last Column (eg HRK "every 43 minutes played", shows Goal (1), Hit Woodwork (.5), assist (1), or secondary assist (.5) )

The lower the number the more productive (attacking-wise) is the player.

Hal Robson-Kanu is doing very well with two goals and a penalty won in just 159 minutes played.

Kebe has made the most attacking contributions


2 Goals 0 HW 1.0 Assist Total 3.0 159 Minutes 080 mins/goal 069 mins G/A/HW HRK

2 Goals 0 HW 0.0 Assist Total 2.0 178 Minutes 089 mins/goal 079 mins G/A/HW Manset

0 Goals 1 HW 3.0 Assist Total 3.5 360 Minutes 999 mins/goal 103 mins G/A/HW Kebe

1 Goal 0 HW 1.0 Assist Total 2.0 332 Minutes 332 mins/goal 166 mins G/A/HW Hunt

0 Goals 0 HW 1.0 Assist Total 1.0 360 Minutes 999 mins/goal 360 mins G/A/HW Harte

0 Goals 0 HW 0.5 Assist Total 0.5 270 Minutes 999 mins/goal 540 mins G/A/HW Griffin

0 Goals 0 HW 0.5 Assist Total 0.5 360 Minutes 999 mins/goal 720 mins G/A/HW Pearce

0 Goals 1 HW 0.0 Assist Total 0.5 360 Minutes 999 mins/goal 720 mins G/A/HW McAnuff




0 0 0.0 0.0 330 999 999 Karacan
0 0 0.0 0.0 360 999 999 L'wood
0 0 0.0 0.0 360 999 999 Khumalo
0 0 0.0 0.0 360 999 999 Federici
0 0 0.0 0.0 070 999 999 Gunnarson

[Snowball]

First-half v Second Half

1st. 2nd
0-0 2-2 Millwall Home
0-0 2-0 Lecicester Away
0-0 0-1 Portsmouth Away
0-1 1-1 Barnsley Home

0-1 5-4 TOTAL (League)


Goal Times

27, 48, 50, 61, 67 >>>>>> Goals Conceded
>>>>>>>> 64, 74, 85, 87, Goals Scored


I know it's early days, but it's like we don't start playing until we are already down!

Histogram


Goals Conceded

00-15
16-30 X
31-45

46-60 XX
61-75 XX
76-90

Goals Scored

00-15
16-30
31-45

46-60
61-75 XX
76-90 XXX

[Snowball]

Five games, RFC still not scored a first half goal

First-half v Second Half

1st. 2nd
0-0 2-2 Millwall Home
0-0 2-0 Lecicester Away
0-0 0-1 Portsmouth Away
0-1 1-1 Barnsley Home
0-1 1-1 Charlton Away (League Cup

0-2 6-5 TOTAL (League)


Goal Times

25, 27, 48, 50, 61, 64, 67 >>>>>> Goals Conceded
>>>>>>>>>>> 64, 73, 74, 85, 87, Goals Scored


I know it's early days, but it's like we don't start playing until we are already down!

Histogram


Goals Conceded

00-15
16-30 XX
31-45

46-60 XXX
61-75 XX
76-90

Goals Scored

00-15
16-30
31-45

46-60
61-75 XXX
76-90 XXX

[Snowball]

Column 6 Minutes per Goal
Column 7 Minutes per Goal/Assist/Hit WW combined

Also showing "half-assists" whereas second player was clearly involved in the making of a goal, as was
Griffin's assistance to Kebe for the cross to Manset v Millwall, Pearce/Hunt v Leicester

Also giving an assist for winning a penalty

Last Column (eg HRK "every 43 minutes played", shows Goal (1), Hit Woodwork (.5), assist (1), or secondary assist (.5) )

The lower the number the more productive (attacking-wise) is the player.

Hal Robson-Kanu is doing very well with two goals and a penalty won in just 159 minutes played.

Kebe has made the most attacking contributions


2 Goals 0 HW 1.0 Assist Total 3.0 187 Minutes 093 mins/goal 063 mins G/A/HW HRK

1 Goals 0 HW 0.0 Assist Total 1.0 090 Minutes 090 mins/goal 090 mins G/A/HW Morrison

2 Goals 0 HW 0.0 Assist Total 2.0 268 Minutes 134 mins/goal 134 mins G/A/HW Manset

0 Goals 1 HW 3.0 Assist Total 3.5 360 Minutes 999 mins/goal 103 mins G/A/HW Kebe

1 Goal 0 HW 1.0 Assist Total 2.0 332 Minutes 332 mins/goal 166 mins G/A/HW Hunt

0 Goals 0 HW 1.0 Assist Total 1.0 422 Minutes 999 mins/goal 422 mins G/A/HW Harte

0 Goals 0 HW 0.5 Assist Total 0.5 270 Minutes 999 mins/goal 540 mins G/A/HW Griffin

0 Goals 0 HW 0.5 Assist Total 0.5 360 Minutes 999 mins/goal 720 mins G/A/HW Pearce

0 Goals 1 HW 0.0 Assist Total 0.5 450 Minutes 999 mins/goal 900 mins G/A/HW McAnuff






0 0 0.0 0.0 450 999 999 Khumalo
0 0 0.0 0.0 360 999 999 L'wood
0 0 0.0 0.0 360 999 999 Federici
0 0 0.0 0.0 330 999 999 Karacan
0 0 0.0 0.0 090 999 999 Church
0 0 0.0 0.0 090 999 999 Howard
0 0 0.0 0.0 090 999 999 Tabb
0 0 0.0 0.0 070 999 999 Gunnarson
0 0 0.0 0.0 062 999 999 Obita
0 0 0.0 0.0 028 999 999 Mills