Le Fondre unsure of future

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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by HoneyRoastHoax » 08 May 2014 09:25

Sick of this guy. He seems to think he's the best thing since boobs.

Yes he has a knack of scoring but very rarely does he create out of nothing, he can't hold the ball up, can't header and he has missed some absolute sitters this season.

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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by YateleyRoyal » 08 May 2014 09:31

Ian Royal The thing about ALF is, that even in a team without fluidity or form, playing half to two thirds of a season, and being a passenger in quite a few games, he'll still score 10 to 15 goals a season.

Put him in a team that's playing fluently and well, with continuity upfront and in midfield and if he starts most games, he'll be the mythical 20 a season man.

It's all well and good having a striker who's involved in every game and puts a real shift in, but if they aren't going to score 15+ goals in a season and you don't have someone else that will. Then they aren't scoring enough and you need someone who will.


I second this point with two words: Danny Welbeck

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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by genome » 08 May 2014 10:20

HoneyRoastHoax Sick of this guy. He seems to think he's the best thing since boobs.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27297326

"I've been disappointed with the season I have had personally, I've not played well enough or scored enough goals.


Yeah, he's full of himself.

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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by Ian Royal » 08 May 2014 10:54

Hoop Blah Ian, those stats are really evidence of how a side can become consistent and fluid with him on it, it's all bade around his conversion rate. There's no doubt he's a good finisher, like many of his type it's his game outside the box that prevents him playing more.

Personally I think at times he links up well and plays some clever balls. What let's him down is he makes far too many wrong decisions and costs us more attacks (and therefore shoots for the statsmen) than he should do.

You'd have to argue he is the sole reason for weak creativity to say that he won't do better in a side that can be got to play more fluently. I seriously doubt we were any more creative without him in the side. Therefore improve midfield and you'll get more out of him.

I have at least provided some evidence to back up my opinion.

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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by HoneyRoastHoax » 08 May 2014 11:02

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HoneyRoastHoax Sick of this guy. He seems to think he's the best thing since boobs.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27297326

"I've been disappointed with the season I have had personally, I've not played well enough or scored enough goals.


Yeah, he's full of himself.


Because you always say your true feelings to journalists. :roll:


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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by genome » 08 May 2014 11:05

Alright, so show me an example of him being arrogant without quoting him or a media article?

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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by Snowball » 08 May 2014 11:55

I don't tend to look at ALF and wonder about his general play but

At Charlton he played a BIG part in Williams goal, taking defenders away and directing the pass the other way, good team play.

His excellent pass out of deep midfield v Burnley for the OG was the key moment but he gets no official credit for it.

If he goes, he will do very well elsewhere while we will struggle

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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by kwik-silva » 08 May 2014 12:02

HoneyRoastHoax Sick of this guy. He seems to think he's the best thing since boobs.

Yes he has a knack of scoring but very rarely does he create out of nothing, he can't hold the ball up, can't header and he has missed some absolute sitters this season.


a) you need a guy with a knack for scoring otherwise you can often find it very hard to put the ball in the back of the net. Heck, we did this season and our front two still racked up 28 goals which isn't awful. I thought his interview was pretty modest tbh, and seemed to be committed to the club but at the end of the day if a decent offer comes in he'll take it and the club aren't going to stand in his way.

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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by Ian Royal » 08 May 2014 12:04

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HoneyRoastHoax Sick of this guy. He seems to think he's the best thing since boobs.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27297326

"I've been disappointed with the season I have had personally, I've not played well enough or scored enough goals.


Yeah, he's full of himself.


Because you always say your true feelings to journalists. :roll:

No offence, but a direct quote from the player is a hell of a lot more meaningful than your baseless opinion.


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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by HoneyRoastHoax » 08 May 2014 12:32

Opinion based on a number of quotes from a number of articles spanning a number of years :roll:

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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by genome » 08 May 2014 14:52

But I thought players never said their true feelings to journalists :?:

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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by HoneyRoastHoax » 08 May 2014 15:10

genome But I thought players never said their true feelings to journalists :?:


They don't but if you take more than one quote from more than one time you can form a better judgement on someones character.

Don't cry buddy

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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by Extended-Phenotype » 08 May 2014 15:46

Losing an argument is bad enough. Losing and not realising is Retardo, Lord of the Muntercats.


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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by genome » 08 May 2014 15:57

Oh, I see. So take into account all of the quotes that support your argument and we conveniently ignore the one quote that makes you look a bit silly? Got it.

All I can see from him is that he was complaining because he wanted to play games, which is fair enough when you're the leading goalscorer (which is what strikers are paid to do :!: especially poachers). There's a difference between that and arrogance when you feel like you are offering something. He's had more games since then and has admitted to feeling like he could've done more, even though he still ended up being our leading goalscorer. But let's ignore that bit because he's lying for some reason.

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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by HoneyRoastHoax » 08 May 2014 16:14

genome Oh, I see. So take into account all of the quotes that support your argument and we conveniently ignore the one quote that makes you look a bit silly? Got it.

All I can see from him is that he was complaining because he wanted to play games, which is fair enough when you're the leading goalscorer (which is what strikers are paid to do :!: especially poachers). There's a difference between that and arrogance when you feel like you are offering something. He's had more games since then and has admitted to feeling like he could've done more, even though he still ended up being our leading goalscorer. But let's ignore that bit because he's lying for some reason.


Fella you chose to question my opinion.

An opinion formed on all quotes is better than one based on one.

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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by Extended-Phenotype » 08 May 2014 16:18

Yeah, Genome. Stop judging a player by what he says in the paper which will obviously be a lie, and start judging him by what he says in the paper, which won't be.

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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by genome » 08 May 2014 16:33

Don't worry, he's just trolling now. I hope he is, anyway.

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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by Ian Royal » 08 May 2014 16:35

I'm also amazed at the idea a striker should be something other than arrogant. Frankly, if you're a highly successful professional sports person the chances of being modest and unassuming are pretty slim.

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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by maffff » 08 May 2014 17:28

....and then there's Gylfi

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Re: Le Fondre unsure of future

by leon » 08 May 2014 17:40

Ian Royal I'm also amazed at the idea a striker should be something other than arrogant. Frankly, if you're a highly successful professional sports person the chances of being modest and unassuming are pretty slim.


Being able to contribute to a game of football might help.

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