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Re: BR Leaves Club

by MmmMonsterMunch » 17 Dec 2009 18:52

LoyalRoyal22 I just want to say, those who feel that Rodgers should have stayed are in the players camp(as he did not lose the dressing room, and they all back him) and those who wanted him out are in the Chairmans group, the players will not like the fans that wanted him gone. So chin up, your not liked by your Clubs players.


He is not employed to be their mate though. He is employed to get a job done. Alex Ferguson is not mates with his players. It is not that hard to get points in this league with the right tactics. There are barely any differences between 2/3 of the clubs in this league in terms of squad ability.

I firmly believe that group of players has enough about it to stay up whether we spend in Jan or not. In my opinion, Rodgers has failed to deliver. We have been catastrophic at the back, yet most of his kitty was blown on CB's that don't even bloody play!! We were always decent at the back & we'd always have a good chance of at least a point but we've no backbone under Rodgers at all.

Got to be honest, I'm glad he's gone.

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Re: BR Leaves Club

by sandman » 17 Dec 2009 19:00

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Hoop Blah As for the progress, I can see it with my eyes even if the points return hasn't increased with it.


Just like Cardiff and Peterborough way back in September?



I fully accept that results weren't acceptable and games we won could've gone a different way, as could a lot of the ones we lost.

Exactly the same can be said about the 106 points gained in the Championship winning season, there were a number of games that we won because of the momentum and habit of winning. Rodgers took over a side without that and it was always going to be difficult to turn that around.


I think he was starting to get there, and didn't expect it to happen over night like some and was willing to give him time to see the job through.

What does draw a wry smile is that so many of those that defended Coppell to the hilt whilst he was leading us headfirst into a relegation battle and then on the worst home run of our history, weren't capable of giving Rodgers the same amount of patience.

Follow Coppell was always going to be a poisoned challice, even before we lost the heart of the squad, and I wonder if Rodgers should've waited to take the job next time it was available. Much like the man who follows Fergie at United, Rodgers was on a bit of a hiding to nothing...not helped my some admittedly mickey mouse management.

Water under the bridge now, and although I'm disappointed at the way the club (from the board to the fans) reacted to what was an appalling start to the season I just can't wait for the new man to be appointed and hope for further progression.


Coppell earned that patience. Rodgers did not.

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Re: BR Leaves Club

by Dorset-Knob » 17 Dec 2009 19:12

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LoyalRoyal22 I just want to say, those who feel that Rodgers should have stayed are in the players camp(as he did not lose the dressing room, and they all back him) and those who wanted him out are in the Chairmans group, the players will not like the fans that wanted him gone. So chin up, your not liked by your Clubs players.


He is not employed to be their mate though. He is employed to get a job done. Alex Ferguson is not mates with his players. It is not that hard to get points in this league with the right tactics. There are barely any differences between 2/3 of the clubs in this league in terms of squad ability.

I firmly believe that group of players has enough about it to stay up whether we spend in Jan or not. In my opinion, Rodgers has failed to deliver. We have been catastrophic at the back, yet most of his kitty was blown on CB's that don't even bloody play!! We were always decent at the back & we'd always have a good chance of at least a point but we've no backbone under Rodgers at all.

Got to be honest, I'm glad he's gone.


Agreed, good points well made! even Ipswich were drawing every week before their recent win, we were a random results side in spite of whatever efforts BR made!

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Re: BR Leaves Club

by MmmMonsterMunch » 17 Dec 2009 19:18

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LoyalRoyal22 I just want to say, those who feel that Rodgers should have stayed are in the players camp(as he did not lose the dressing room, and they all back him) and those who wanted him out are in the Chairmans group, the players will not like the fans that wanted him gone. So chin up, your not liked by your Clubs players.


He is not employed to be their mate though. He is employed to get a job done. Alex Ferguson is not mates with his players. It is not that hard to get points in this league with the right tactics. There are barely any differences between 2/3 of the clubs in this league in terms of squad ability.

I firmly believe that group of players has enough about it to stay up whether we spend in Jan or not. In my opinion, Rodgers has failed to deliver. We have been catastrophic at the back, yet most of his kitty was blown on CB's that don't even bloody play!! We were always decent at the back & we'd always have a good chance of at least a point but we've no backbone under Rodgers at all.

Got to be honest, I'm glad he's gone.


Agreed, good points well made! even Ipswich were drawing every week before their recent win, we were a random results side in spite of whatever efforts BR made!


I can't honestly say I've seen real progress from the first day against Forest. He had the whole of pre-season to try & get his house in order as well. I don't doubt it was tough for him, but look what Malky is doing at Watford.

My passion for watching Reading has drained this season & for once I am looking forward to the next batch of games rather than dreading them!

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by Rawlie19 » 17 Dec 2009 20:42

MmmMonsterMunch I can't honestly say I've seen real progress from the first day against Forest. He had the whole of pre-season to try & get his house in order as well. I don't doubt it was tough for him, but look what Malky is doing at Watford.

My passion for watching Reading has drained this season & for once I am looking forward to the next batch of games rather than dreading them!

For me it was after the win against Barnsley (our first, 6 games in) when he said "that was our pre-season over with" that he lost all credability with me. The guy was a muppet, although I was actually in the camp that wanted him in the first place. I still wanted him to succeed, but only because I'm a Reading fan, not a Rodgers fan. I don't think getting rid of him is going to help us to be honest, but I'm not sorry to see him go.

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Re: BR Leaves Club

by Ian Royal » 17 Dec 2009 20:46

Smith Saga
Preseason comment
Dellor interview
Selection policy
Failure to strengthern when weakened by injuries
Substitutions
Tactics
RESULTS
PERFORMANCES

These are the reasons he failed.

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Re: BR Leaves Club

by Victor Meldrew » 17 Dec 2009 21:05



No argument about money,no big fall-out and the board decided,not the chairman so John is still a nice guy (just like Brendan as he said over and over again).
This board of ours-can anyone believe that the board members say anything that the owner doesn't want to hear?
And what's all that about having to concentrate on the City game?
What concentrating do the chairman and board have to do?

I know,there has to be a Press Conference but how come the daily papers say that the disagreement was about transfer spending in January and yet in this interview and on TV the chairman has implied that the decision has been results driven?

I suppose none of it matters really and the show goes on but I have this feeling that our club has lost some of it's soul and the people that run it are not people that you would care to call your friends.

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Re: BR Leaves Club

by Ian Royal » 17 Dec 2009 21:08

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No argument about money,no big fall-out and the board decided,not the chairman so John is still a nice guy (just like Brendan as he said over and over again).
This board of ours-can anyone believe that the board members say anything that the owner doesn't want to hear?
And what's all that about having to concentrate on the City game?
What concentrating do the chairman and board have to do?

I know,there has to be a Press Conference but how come the daily papers say that the disagreement was about transfer spending in January and yet in this interview and on TV the chairman has implied that the decision has been results driven?

I suppose none of it matters really and the show goes on but I have this feeling that our club has lost some of it's soul and the people that run it are not people that you would care to call your friends.


I'd be fricking pissed off if my fellow board members didn't give me their honest opinion about something. You don't get anywhere in business just employing bootlickers.

Half the idiots on here who can't except Rodgers simply didn't do very well keep going on about it being because he'd asked for money. Why wouldn't journalists. It's not like they would never look at an internet message forum and steal something pretending it was given to them by a source within the club....


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Re: BR Leaves Club

by Sir Rodger Doyle » 17 Dec 2009 21:14

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No argument about money,no big fall-out and the board decided,not the chairman so John is still a nice guy (just like Brendan as he said over and over again).
This board of ours-can anyone believe that the board members say anything that the owner doesn't want to hear?
And what's all that about having to concentrate on the City game?
What concentrating do the chairman and board have to do?

I know,there has to be a Press Conference but how come the daily papers say that the disagreement was about transfer spending in January and yet in this interview and on TV the chairman has implied that the decision has been results driven?

I suppose none of it matters really and the show goes on but I have this feeling that our club has lost some of it's soul and the people that run it are not people that you would care to call your friends.


Maybe, just maybe the Chairman is worried he might look like the bad guy.

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Re: BR Leaves Club

by The Quiet Man » 17 Dec 2009 21:22

Wouldn't have thought there is anything contradictory in the interview Victor. SJM says he has had as much financial backing and has a squad as good as most others in this division (brought in 7 players) - fourth from bottom one point above the drop zone was not what was agreed at the start of the season Brendan, you show no signs of getting the 'results' to move the team from that position. No argument & no disagreement - goodbye and thanks for your effort it wasn't good enough, best wishes for the future and close the door on your way out.

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Re: BR Leaves Club

by Terminal Boardom » 17 Dec 2009 21:58

I hear that Tommy Smith is having a medical at the club.

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Re: BR Leaves Club

by Royalwaster » 17 Dec 2009 22:00

Surprised that no-one has picked up on the fact that SJM has pretty much said that BM IS our new manager and that there's no reason to change anything and bring in a new face. That is scary. We are in a relegation battle as a result of having taken on manager with very little experience and we replace him someone with zero experience of managing a club. Oh, hang on, he won the Premiership. The Premiership you say? Yes, the Reserves Premiership. Oh wow, what a guy - I bet Manchester United are already looking at him.


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by winchester_royal » 17 Dec 2009 22:01

Royalwaster Surprised that no-one has picked up on the fact that SJM has pretty much said that BM IS our new manager and that there's no reason to change anything and bring in a new face. That is scary. We are in a relegation battle as a result of having taken on manager with very little experience and we replace him someone with zero experience of managing a club. Oh, hang on, he won the Premiership. The Premiership you say? Yes, the Reserves Premiership. Oh wow, what a guy - I bet Manchester United are already looking at him.


Right then, go on, who should be our man?

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Re: BR Leaves Club

by FiNeRaIn » 17 Dec 2009 22:03



Crap as usual, same old cliches. Does not remotely fill me with confidence.

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Re: BR Leaves Club

by tink » 17 Dec 2009 22:09

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Royalwaster Surprised that no-one has picked up on the fact that SJM has pretty much said that BM IS our new manager and that there's no reason to change anything and bring in a new face. That is scary. We are in a relegation battle as a result of having taken on manager with very little experience and we replace him someone with zero experience of managing a club. Oh, hang on, he won the Premiership. The Premiership you say? Yes, the Reserves Premiership. Oh wow, what a guy - I bet Manchester United are already looking at him.


Right then, go on, who should be our man?


Not Brian McDermott, i think his point is.

Nothing terribly wrong with McD, but really, we are in the shite, and we need someone who knows how to deal with the problem. Managing the reserves does not give McD the necessary experience to deal with this. I will be quite happy to stand corrected come May if we avoid relegation, but for some peculiar reason, i almost find myself wanting us to fail because of the board's ineptitude.

I am fully aware that this will provoke a torrent of comments of 'you're not a true supporter if you want us to fail' but maybe it's going to take a monumental oxf*rd up before people start to realise what's going wrong.

In the meantime, if McD has the job for the foreseeable future, he has my backing, and i hope it works out for him, just like i hoped it would work out for BR

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Re: BR Leaves Club

by Victor Meldrew » 17 Dec 2009 22:15

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No argument about money,no big fall-out and the board decided,not the chairman so John is still a nice guy (just like Brendan as he said over and over again).
This board of ours-can anyone believe that the board members say anything that the owner doesn't want to hear?
And what's all that about having to concentrate on the City game?
What concentrating do the chairman and board have to do?

I know,there has to be a Press Conference but how come the daily papers say that the disagreement was about transfer spending in January and yet in this interview and on TV the chairman has implied that the decision has been results driven?

I suppose none of it matters really and the show goes on but I have this feeling that our club has lost some of it's soul and the people that run it are not people that you would care to call your friends.


I'd be fricking pissed off if my fellow board members didn't give me their honest opinion about something. You don't get anywhere in business just employing bootlickers.

Half the idiots on here who can't except Rodgers simply didn't do very well keep going on about it being because he'd asked for money. Why wouldn't journalists. It's not like they would never look at an internet message forum and steal something pretending it was given to them by a source within the club....


There are boards and there are boards Ian.
I sit on a board where there are a number of equal shareholders and everybody has their say.
It's totally different if there is one majority shareholder like at RFC.

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Re: BR Leaves Club

by swansea jack » 18 Dec 2009 06:49

Ian Royal I'd be fricking pissed off if my fellow board members didn't give me their honest opinion about something. You don't get anywhere in business just employing bootlickers.


Board members closely follow estate agents and recruitment consultants in the honesty stakes. More $ often leads to more deceit.

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Re: BR Leaves Club

by Avon Royal » 18 Dec 2009 07:40

Royalwaster Surprised that no-one has picked up on the fact that SJM has pretty much said that BM IS our new manager and that there's no reason to change anything and bring in a new face. That is scary. We are in a relegation battle as a result of having taken on manager with very little experience and we replace him someone with zero experience of managing a club. Oh, hang on, he won the Premiership. The Premiership you say? Yes, the Reserves Premiership. Oh wow, what a guy - I bet Manchester United are already looking at him.


I don't know, seeing as we have a first team full of reserve team players maybe it makes sense to have a reserve team manager in charge.

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