Adkins - the alternatives

[HoneyRoastHoax]

At the moment he is stealing a living at Reading.

BY getting us in the play offs? yeah alright then pal

Parachute payments, top 6 should be par.

Oh yeah, he spent all those parachute payments hasn't he?

[sandman]

Fickle post! clearly has not been to most games this season and has no idea where we are in the league.........if you cannot take the loss, do bath in the glory...

Most people can take a loss. When a loss is so lacking in basic skill and play is so slow and ponderous then I think people have every right to be annoyed and ask questions of the manager and players. Especially a manager that has only won once in a whole year after going a goal down.

[sandman]

At the moment he is stealing a living at Reading.

BY getting us in the play offs? yeah alright then pal

Parachute payments, top 6 should be par.

Oh yeah, he spent all those parachute payments hasn't he?

Yet we're told constantly on here that it's wages that matter not transfer fees. How much of the parachute payments do you think are being taken up by the likes of Drenthe?

[Royalcop]

Personally I would have McDermott back like a shot and surely it won't be long before he walks away from the mess at Leeds. Yes his football was slightly 'agricultural' but by God he seemed to get the most out of his players and had them putting the effort in (Guthrie apart). He also embodied the values of RFC much better than orange charlatan Adkins seems to.

[Royal Biscuitman]

I expect RFC will fire the manager before the end of the season so that the blame can be deflected

That will mirror the Brendan Rogers sacking to an extent..... Good managers with not enough players to play his style of play and no funds to change things. the difference is, Rogers spent his transfer money and ran out leaving his team half built whereas Adkins had his funding cut mid rebuild. Rogers also had a team heading for relegation whereas Adkins has us in the playoff spots.

When Rogers went, we had to go with the cheap solution of McDermott which actually worked out well as he played to the strengths of the players we had, rather than try to adapt them, If Adkins departs we will have to do the same so Dolan it is (unless Brian returns).... but if we want long term success, we need to think beyond this season, Will fund be available and will Adkins be the best option? I don't think he's made a bad signing yet - has he?

No doubt in a few years time Adkins will be mirroring Rogers and also be leading a team who have underachieved for years to the brink of the Premiership title.

[Hoop Blah]

I think the notion of getting rid of Adkins at this stage is daft. We're not progressing as such no, but we are still in with a good shout of the play offs despite the off field problems and the injuries that have weakened the squad quite considerably.

Adkins should get some credit for that, even though he's still a bit of a tit, as it's a results business.

His credit won't last forever though and if he were to go now I think the obvious candidate, if he wanted it, would be Dolan.

[HoneyRoastHoax]

Yet we're told constantly on here that it's wages that matter not transfer fees. How much of the parachute payments do you think are being taken up by the likes of Drenthe?

bunch of mongs on a spazboard are not to be trusted y'all

[winchester_royal]

Personally I would have McDermott back like a shot and surely it won't be long before he walks away from the mess at Leeds. Yes his football was slightly 'agricultural' but by God he seemed to get the most out of his players and had them putting the effort in (Guthrie apart). He also embodied the values of RFC much better than orange charlatan Adkins seems to.

Tell that to Leeds fans.

[sandman]

Yet we're told constantly on here that it's wages that matter not transfer fees. How much of the parachute payments do you think are being taken up by the likes of Drenthe?

bunch of mongs on a spazboard are not to be trusted y'all

Well obviously hence why I don't trust your argument.

[HoneyRoastHoax]

exactly, just opinions.

Yet your argument was that due to what people on here have said then your argument is correct.

Bad backing up blud

[Big Ern]

You don't become a bad manager overnight and Adkins track record shows he is a good manager.

People should lay off him as he was sold a load of BS from Anton and has been left with a squad put together by someone else that is full off players on the decline and some that just don't fit. He has had his hands tied by the club and is doing his best to get results with a squad that needs at least 4 players to make it competitive. Despite that, we are still in the mix for the playoffs.

The blame lies clearly at the feet of TSI and unless new owners are sorted out in time for the next transfer window, next season could be a very unpleasant one indeed.

[Zana Badawi]

Personally I would have McDermott back like a shot and surely it won't be long before he walks away from the mess at Leeds. Yes his football was slightly 'agricultural' but by God he seemed to get the most out of his players and had them putting the effort in (Guthrie apart). He also embodied the values of RFC much better than orange charlatan Adkins seems to.

Tell that to Leeds fans.

We've been here before, but do you actually KNOW any Leeds fans? There's more to life than league positions.

This thread can be summed up as 'HNA? - Defending mediocrity since 1998'. If we have a manager who cant manage player motivation, cant manage crowd expectation, cant manage a pecking order and cant manage a playing style, then maybe we ought to start small and employ somebody who can do at least one of these things. To suggest there is no-one is ludicrous.

But, and always BUT - we need somebody at the club to make that decision and we, simply put, dont have a person willing to do that.

[Eaststandman]

How do people rate the former WBA manager Steve Clarke?

[St. Brynjar]

How do people rate the former WBA manager Steve Clarke?

He'd be my first choice if Nigel gets the boot.

[Eaststandman]

How do people rate the former WBA manager Steve Clarke?

He'd be my first choice if Nigel gets the boot.

The 'special/happy one' rated him so highly as a coach that he threatened to resign if SC was fired and JM seems to know a little something about football, just saying!

[KC Royal]

I'm starting to wonder whether Dolan would do a better job, (thinking beyond this season here). I've had reservations about him leaving the academy job behind in the past, but i'm not even thinking about that now, which perhaps shows how angry I am about last night's result, but also because I think he would leave it in good shape. He could still oversee it and offer guidance where necessary anyway, thinking back to his team talk in extra-time of the FAYC game against Liverpool recently.

I'm even wondering whether the youngsters we're all so excited about will fulfil their potential under Adkins, and that concerns me more than anything else.

[winchester_royal]

Personally I would have McDermott back like a shot and surely it won't be long before he walks away from the mess at Leeds. Yes his football was slightly 'agricultural' but by God he seemed to get the most out of his players and had them putting the effort in (Guthrie apart). He also embodied the values of RFC much better than orange charlatan Adkins seems to.

Tell that to Leeds fans.

We've been here before, but do you actually KNOW any Leeds fans? There's more to life than league positions.

Yes, actually, there are plenty up here in Manchester and spoke to a few after the game a couple of weeks ago.

While they are going through their own takeover turmoil, their team has put in a number of pathetic, passionless performances that has left their original confidence to McD's ability as a manager thoroughly shaken. Kebe has been a particular target of their frustration.

Granted he has excuses, and by all means I still think he's a cracking guy and a good manager, but it shows that he isn't able to keep his team motivated through off-the-field issues and crowd abuse, so I'm not sure why people think he'd do better than Adkins under similar circumstances here.

If we do get rid of Adkins I'd be looking for someone to come in with fresh ideas and shake the entire first team squad up, and not someone who'd most likely carry on with the same average plodders producing the same average football that we're currently watching.

[Cureton's Volley]

I am a huge Brian fan, but even I feel it would be the wrong time for him to come back so soon....

[PistolPete]

Adkins cannot be judged on a team he picks without Karacan, Williams, Leigertwood, Baird or Guthrie!!

If he had had 2 or 3 of those last night it would have been different, we could easily have won and we'd all be talking about how we're locking in a play-off slot and making the charge at the right time.

He hasn't had free reign over transfers, has had TERRIBLE luck with injuries and had to play a midfield last night of who?!?!

His management record is superb, all his previous clubs rate him highly, and 6th placed Reading with no owner and no transfer capability want him out. Brilliant.

[melonhead]

agreed