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Re: Blackpool (A) - Match Thread sponsored by a day at the s

by MmmMonsterMunch » 24 Aug 2013 18:45

Surely we can all at least agree that Reading needed to be better on the ball and get more possession though?

I'm not saying we need to be Barcelona but the ball was in the main a hot potato under McDermott.

(That is not a dig at McD before you interpret it to be Sandman). Whether you play direct or more of a passing game we were way below par when it came to retaining the ball.

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by LoyalRoyalFan » 24 Aug 2013 18:49

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LoyalRoyalFan Well, when McDermott comes back to the Madejski and gives us a right hammering, you lot can enjoy those passing stats and make out that it's successful.

Tbf, the people that continuously slate McDermott are marginally less tedious than the people who are willing Leeds to do better than us.


No one is willing Leeds to do better than us.

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by Pepe the Horseman » 24 Aug 2013 18:50

Shut the fcuk up then.

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by CrispyRoyal » 24 Aug 2013 18:50

CrispyRoyal He's the only way to succeed above this division. Bigger picture.




Sandman No it isn't it depends mostly on the quality of player you're allowed to bring in and build a team over years which depends on the budget you're given.

How long have Stoke been in the Premier League? Granted they're not pretty but it disproves your point that it's the only way.

West Ham seem to be doing ok, with their manager being given the funds to buy in the quality of player he needs. Even Fergie was known to have played a 4-4-2 on several occasions in his last few years as a manager.

This is the problem with English football as a whole! You saw the way Brazil played and that's "the only way to go", then it was Spain and that was the "only way to go" and now it's Germany. You're so focused on what others do and wanting to be like them that you don't really take into account being yourself.


:D I literally just said before that I know Adkins isn't the only way to succeed, but the most obvious thing here is that McDermott wasn't the way to succeed, didn't last season teach you that? Do you see now? McDermott was never going to make us a successful Premier League team was he! It doesn't matter if you win a Championship if you can't survive in the Prem. McDermott's achievements were practically reversed by his own ineptness last year.

Adkins is not the Messiah, but he is at least competent in the Premier League, and in the Premier League you need to be playing a much higher tempo than in the Champ, you can play long ball if you can play it right, he didn't, if we wanted to be a successful but dull long ball team we wouldn't have appointed Adkins, but why be a successful long ball team when you can be a successful passing team?

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by sandman » 24 Aug 2013 18:56

MmmMonsterMunch Surely we can all at least agree that Reading needed to be better on the ball and get more possession though?

I'm not saying we need to be Barcelona but the ball was in the main a hot potato under McDermott.

(That is not a dig at McD before you interpret it to be Sandman). Whether you play direct or more of a passing game we were way below par when it came to retaining the ball.


Good means you're are maturing and at least learning something.


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by MmmMonsterMunch » 24 Aug 2013 18:59

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MmmMonsterMunch Surely we can all at least agree that Reading needed to be better on the ball and get more possession though?

I'm not saying we need to be Barcelona but the ball was in the main a hot potato under McDermott.

(That is not a dig at McD before you interpret it to be Sandman). Whether you play direct or more of a passing game we were way below par when it came to retaining the ball.


Good means you're are maturing and at least learning something.


All I've learnt is that you're patronising to be honest - not once have I had a dig at McD.

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by winchester_royal » 24 Aug 2013 19:01

Have we really got to the point as a fanbase where a tight loss against the (now) leaders of the division sends us all into hysterival seizures?

Deary me. Disappointing? Yes. Cause for rethinking the long term strategy? Absolutely fcuking not. Obviously we've picked up a few Arsenal fans along the way.

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by ankeny » 24 Aug 2013 19:04

CrispyRoyal People don't see the bigger picture. Adkins hasn't even been in charge for 6 months yet. He's trying to complete a process which is very long and can sometimes appear to be sending us backwards. He's trying to change our style of football. After 3 and a half years of long ball under McDermott, its going take a while to adapt isn't it. And he hasn't even completed his first transfer window, there are players yet to come in, and he doesn't know a great deal about his squad yet, but every game he is learning more about it, and today will be an eye opener for him, and judging by his post match comments he is going to go into the market.

Its not about today, its about the football and the future of our club being secure. If a 1-0 defeat to Blackpool means we'll A) get a striker in, B) improve our football, and C) Improve our results and set ourselves up for the future, you have to take that. Would you rather we'd beaten Blackpool under McDermott playing long ball but stagnate and go even further backwards, be forever an average long ball Championship team? Ambition people, you criticise the club of showing none, when some of you show none at all.

I don't care what fukcing ball they play,they can run around with it up their fukcing arses for all I care,just want to see a win.

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by Man Friday » 24 Aug 2013 19:06

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Readingensian Just the 94 goals left to secure promotion then Nigel. That's only 2.24 goals per game. The answer is quite simple... ALFIE>>>BLACKMAN.

And please spare me the notion that we're looking at bringing a couple of lads in next week. We won't be spending anything like enough money to secure promotion. We'll aim to do it on the cheap again, and you sir will look a mug come the summer after your pre-season hype.

Doing it on the cheap seemed to work out okay last time we were in the Championship.


Yeah but how did we do in the Prem when we got there

We were struggling due to under-investment and then Nige took us down. Don't you remember?


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by CrispyRoyal » 24 Aug 2013 19:08

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CrispyRoyal People don't see the bigger picture. Adkins hasn't even been in charge for 6 months yet. He's trying to complete a process which is very long and can sometimes appear to be sending us backwards. He's trying to change our style of football. After 3 and a half years of long ball under McDermott, its going take a while to adapt isn't it. And he hasn't even completed his first transfer window, there are players yet to come in, and he doesn't know a great deal about his squad yet, but every game he is learning more about it, and today will be an eye opener for him, and judging by his post match comments he is going to go into the market.

Its not about today, its about the football and the future of our club being secure. If a 1-0 defeat to Blackpool means we'll A) get a striker in, B) improve our football, and C) Improve our results and set ourselves up for the future, you have to take that. Would you rather we'd beaten Blackpool under McDermott playing long ball but stagnate and go even further backwards, be forever an average long ball Championship team? Ambition people, you criticise the club of showing none, when some of you show none at all.

I don't care what fukcing ball they play,they can run around with it up their fukcing arses for all I care,just want to see a win.

I would say something smart but I don't want to get in trouble elsewhere :D

Lets just say, if I weren't in my armchair, and paying to see them play, I would want to see them impress and entertain, not aimlessly lump the ball down the channels :wink:

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by Man Friday » 24 Aug 2013 19:09

Royal91 Any one who is questioning our new style saying it's not effective. Please jump off a tall building and make sure your head smashes the concrete first.

This is a long term change and the players we have are still under the Brian regime. I'd happily not get promoted and spend a couple seasons in the champ to establish a style that will eventually be more accustomed to the PL.

yeah but that's 'cos you're an idiot. No disrespect meant.

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by AirRaidSiren » 24 Aug 2013 19:12

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LoyalRoyalFan Well, when McDermott comes back to the Madejski and gives us a right hammering, you lot can enjoy those passing stats and make out that it's successful.

Tbf, the people that continuously slate McDermott are marginally less tedious than the people who are willing Leeds to do better than us.


No one is willing Leeds to do better than us.


But you're not exactly supporting the team now, are you? Bringing up old hat constantly is getting you nowhere. You're achieving nothing.

Let's just say, if Leeds did come to the Madejski and kick our arse, are you going to be cheering and rubbing it in the players, managers and fans faces? Of course you will. Why? Because you want Adkins to fail just so you can finger point and say 'told you I was right'......really? I find you rather shallow.

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by ankeny » 24 Aug 2013 19:12

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CrispyRoyal People don't see the bigger picture. Adkins hasn't even been in charge for 6 months yet. He's trying to complete a process which is very long and can sometimes appear to be sending us backwards. He's trying to change our style of football. After 3 and a half years of long ball under McDermott, its going take a while to adapt isn't it. And he hasn't even completed his first transfer window, there are players yet to come in, and he doesn't know a great deal about his squad yet, but every game he is learning more about it, and today will be an eye opener for him, and judging by his post match comments he is going to go into the market.

Its not about today, its about the football and the future of our club being secure. If a 1-0 defeat to Blackpool means we'll A) get a striker in, B) improve our football, and C) Improve our results and set ourselves up for the future, you have to take that. Would you rather we'd beaten Blackpool under McDermott playing long ball but stagnate and go even further backwards, be forever an average long ball Championship team? Ambition people, you criticise the club of showing none, when some of you show none at all.

I don't care what fukcing ball they play,they can run around with it up their fukcing arses for all I care,just want to see a win.

I would say something smart but I don't want to get in trouble elsewhere :D

Lets just say, if I weren't in my armchair, and paying to see them play, I would want to see them impress and entertain, not aimlessly lump the ball down the channels :wink:

Detention for you young man for taking me seriously :D


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by LoyalRoyalFan » 24 Aug 2013 19:15

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But you're not exactly supporting the team now, are you? Bringing up old hat constantly is getting you nowhere. You're achieving nothing.

Let's just say, if Leeds did come to the Madejski and kick our arse, are you going to be cheering and rubbing it in the players, managers and fans faces? Of course you will. Why? Because you want Adkins to fail just so you can finger point and say 'told you I was right'......really? I find you rather shallow.


:lol:

No, I just want to dish it back to the people who did the same things when McDermott was in charge.

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by Cureton's Volley » 24 Aug 2013 19:15

Nigel can't answer simple questions can he? No wonder players appear slightly confused at times if his communication is so poor.

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by Woodcote Royal » 24 Aug 2013 19:18

ManchesterRoyals How many more before Anton big bollocks spends? :twisted:


It costs less to sack those who have forgotten more about the game than he'll ever know.

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by Readallaboutit » 24 Aug 2013 19:18

MmmMonsterMunch Readingensian - You're brushing over the fact that quite a lot of our players are on bumper money these days - Pearce, Kebe, HRK, Pog, McAnuff, Drenthe, Williams, Bridge, McCarthy, Roberts, Mariappa to name a few.

We've not sold anyone & had the annual summer sale. We are spending more money than ever from what I can see.


What's bumper money and how do you know this? Most of the players if not all would have a condition in their contract that would reduced their wage when relegated so I would highly doubt the players you have named (Pog aside) are on bumper money.

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by AirRaidSiren » 24 Aug 2013 19:19

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But you're not exactly supporting the team now, are you? Bringing up old hat constantly is getting you nowhere. You're achieving nothing.

Let's just say, if Leeds did come to the Madejski and kick our arse, are you going to be cheering and rubbing it in the players, managers and fans faces? Of course you will. Why? Because you want Adkins to fail just so you can finger point and say 'told you I was right'......really? I find you rather shallow.


:lol:

No, I just want to dish it back to the people who did the same things when McDermott was in charge.


But he isn't and that was 5 months ago. <------------do you see that?

Pretty sad going on about it 5 months on.

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by Royal91 » 24 Aug 2013 19:19

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sandman I defend Brian McDermott because he is a man I greatly respect and when I feel he has been unfairly maligned, which he has been on several occasions on this site, since he left. If you and your ilk didn't make constant little digs and attacks on him then I wouldn't have to defend him and therefore wouldn't "hark back" or whatever you called it.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

It's as if you personally knew him. Grow up.


Sandman spies on McDermott from a tree at night. His obsession has become uncontrollable!!

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Re: Blackpool (A) - Match Thread sponsored by a day at the s

by CrispyRoyal » 24 Aug 2013 19:20

You'd think we'd been beaten 8-0. By West Ham. On TV. We were beaten 1-0 by Blackpool with all of 11 people at the game. Adkins needs time. Some people are still on McDermott World, some people are still in the third division, and some people are still Chelsea fans inside. Some people need to wake up and see the club is doing something very big and very difficult, that involves the fans being patient and not whiny 4 year olds.

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