White knight

[karbota]

And it's impossible while the Dais want to stay. Didn't SJM buy the clubs for peanuts?

If the Dais try to walk and we go into crisis mode, a local owner may be able to buy us cheap. But do we really want that to happen? It could result in no owner and us going bust.

I'd also avoid saying local owners are necessarily better. Mel Morris is a Derby fan and look how that has worked out.

Strangely enough, I pointed that out to Karboot when he was going on about how English owners we the be all and end all, and I never got a reply.

Are you pissed, the facts prove our best ever years were with British owners British Management and with a majority of British players.

[From Despair To Where?]

True.

I particularly enjoyed this one

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997%E2%80%9398_Reading_F.C._season

British owner, British manager, British players.

.and this one

http://www.royalsrecord.co.uk/seasons/1982.html

British owner, British manager, British players.

...and this one

http://www.royalsrecord.co.uk/seasons/1971.html

British owner, British manager, British players.

[Jackson Corner]

It’s not all about money. Look at the 106 team only Lita was a big buy, How many were free transfers or buys £400,000 and under. And no academy players. Look how Brentford have done no academy just outstanding scouting great managerial choices. Nothing wrong with the owners just the people who run the club, and the managerial choices have been terrible. Stan, Gomes and Paulo all clueless foreigners with no experience of EFL football.

[Lower West]

The Chinese will never get their money back ,

The Chinese own all the land and property. The one thing they aren't is stupid. The investment is calculated.

Birmingham are in the same boat. Ground is now rented back to their Chinese owners.

[Hendo]

And it's impossible while the Dais want to stay. Didn't SJM buy the clubs for peanuts?

If the Dais try to walk and we go into crisis mode, a local owner may be able to buy us cheap. But do we really want that to happen? It could result in no owner and us going bust.

I'd also avoid saying local owners are necessarily better. Mel Morris is a Derby fan and look how that has worked out.

Strangely enough, I pointed that out to Karboot when he was going on about how English owners we the be all and end all, and I never got a reply.

Are you pissed, the facts prove our best ever years were with British owners British Management and with a majority of British players.

When did Mel Morris own us? Or are you trying to change the subject?

[NathStPaul]

Can we not all just ignore the racist? Is it really worth replying to him?

[karbota]

Strangely enough, I pointed that out to Karboot when he was going on about how English owners we the be all and end all, and I never got a reply.

Are you pissed, the facts prove our best ever years were with British owners British Management and with a majority of British players.

When did Mel Morris own us? Or are you trying to change the subject?

Mel Morris never, I am of course referring to our most successful years when we were under the ownership of Sir John.

[karbota]

Can we not all just ignore the racist? Is it really worth replying to him?

Who let the Wokies out?.

[under the tin]

It’s not all about money. Look at the 106 team only Lita was a big buy, How many were free transfers or buys £400,000 and under. And no academy players. Look how Brentford have done no academy just outstanding scouting great managerial choices. Nothing wrong with the owners just the people who run the club, and the managerial choices have been terrible. Stan, Gomes and Paulo all clueless foreigners with no experience of EFL football.

Amen to that, JC.
With the points deduction looming, there is a decent possibility that we could be swapping places with Wycombe next season.
I'd bet that their manager has wet dreams about the resources/wage packages available to the managers/players we have.

Another poster used the word "technicians" in describing some of our players.
The foreign managers we have had tend to want technicians, but fail to appreciate that in British football, warriors are of equal importance, particularly on a freezing wet Wednesday night up north.
This current side has too many technicians, not enough warriors.

[WestYorksRoyal]

Can we not all just ignore the racist? Is it really worth replying to him?

Serious question - what does he need to say to get a ban?

[NathStPaul]

Can we not all just ignore the racist? Is it really worth replying to him?

Serious question - what does he need to say to get a ban?

Problem is he doesn't go as far as to use racist language, he thinks he is clever so just says very unsavoury/questionable things. A bit like a Lidl version of Nigel Farage.

[From Despair To Where?]

Can we not all just ignore the racist? Is it really worth replying to him?

Serious question - what does he need to say to get a ban?

Problem is he doesn't go as far as to use racist language, he thinks he is clever so just says very unsavoury/questionable things. A bit like a Lidl version of Nigel Farage.

I've got him down as a poor man's Alf Garnett. Some of the stuff he comes out with is so transparently and ludicrously dumb, it's got to be a parody.

[Hendo]

Are you pissed, the facts prove our best ever years were with British owners British Management and with a majority of British players.

When did Mel Morris own us? Or are you trying to change the subject?

Mel Morris never, I am of course referring to our most successful years when we were under the ownership of Sir John.

Oh right, so you're changing the subject, great.

Also with regards to our most successful years;

2005/06 - I wonder if Sir John would've been able to put as much money in as he did that year without the largest corporate deal in the clubs history (at that time) with a sponsorship deal from a Japanese printing company?

2011/12 - We wouldn't have gotten promoted without Russian money coming into the club in January that year.

Again, feel free to change the subject if you don't like the facts presented.

[From Despair To Where?]

Am I also missing something in that of our last 4 games, 9 of the starting lineup were British, apart from Blackburn where 10 of them were British. This team is a hell of a lot more British than the 2005/06 team.

[Millsy]

Can we not all just ignore the racist? Is it really worth replying to him?

Serious question - what does he need to say to get a ban?

The old free speech debate. They're wise enough to not be too blatantly offensive as you can't just ban people for things you don't like. Just pro trolls so probably don't even believe what they say, just get a sad kick out of it because they haven't discovered pornhub yet.

The ONLY WAY to deal with this is BLOCK THEM

I don't see anything karbota writes because I block him so I'm in bliss without his shit entering my headspace.

If other idiots QUOTE him then I see it, and if they do it more than a couple of times I just block them too mostly.

Everyone knows about the block function so the onus is really on individuals. If you DON'T block then it's because you secretly actually want to be disgusted and to engage, and that's on you. Can't complain about it.

Block and they'll wither away as most people will be ignoring them and they'll just be talking to themselves. It will be a bit of a whack-a-mole as you block the new troll accounts but they'll soon get bored. Freedom to speak. Freedom to block. Everyone's happy!

[Sutekh]

And it's impossible while the Dais want to stay. Didn't SJM buy the clubs for peanuts?

If the Dais try to walk and we go into crisis mode, a local owner may be able to buy us cheap. But do we really want that to happen? It could result in no owner and us going bust.

I'd also avoid saying local owners are necessarily better. Mel Morris is a Derby fan and look how that has worked out.

Strangely enough, I pointed that out to Karboot when he was going on about how English owners we the be all and end all, and I never got a reply.

Are you pissed, the facts prove our best ever years were with British owners British Management and with a majority of British players.

Given that until 2012 the club had not had anything other than owners and managers from the British Isles it’s not a surprise to learn that the club was most successful with owners and management from these isles. However it should be noted that the club has also been at it’s least successful with owners and management from these isles. But most of the time the club has mostly not really been going anywhere under their stewardship.

Overall there’s good and bad owners from all parts of the world, at the end of the day the Dai’s aren’t perfect but at least they seem to want to try and get the club to succeed, therefore why is anyone bothered about where someone is from it’s people’’s deeds that are important and how they learn from any mistakes they may make.

[SCIAG]

Can we not all just ignore the racist? Is it really worth replying to him?

Serious question - what does he need to say to get a ban?

The old free speech debate. They're wise enough to not be too blatantly offensive as you can't just ban people for things you don't like. Just pro trolls so probably don't even believe what they say, just get a sad kick out of it because they haven't discovered pornhub yet.

I think - and I might be completely wrong here - the issue is more about mod tools than about whether or not someone deserves to be banned. I think I remember one of the mods saying that they can’t actually ban users and need to wait for Graham to get around to it. Hence why it took them so long to ban OMA and why he just immediately popped back up with a new account.

[Millsy]

Serious question - what does he need to say to get a ban?

The old free speech debate. They're wise enough to not be too blatantly offensive as you can't just ban people for things you don't like. Just pro trolls so probably don't even believe what they say, just get a sad kick out of it because they haven't discovered pornhub yet.

I think - and I might be completely wrong here - the issue is more about mod tools than about whether or not someone deserves to be banned. I think I remember one of the mods saying that they can’t actually ban users and need to wait for Graham to get around to it. Hence why it took them so long to ban OMA and why he just immediately popped back up with a new account.

Yeah interesting. Must be hard enough to be a mod without the ability to ban quickly.

[karbota]

When did Mel Morris own us? Or are you trying to change the subject?

Mel Morris never, I am of course referring to our most successful years when we were under the ownership of Sir John.

Oh right, so you're changing the subject, great.

Also with regards to our most successful years;

2005/06 - I wonder if Sir John would've been able to put as much money in as he did that year without the largest corporate deal in the clubs history (at that time) with a sponsorship deal from a Japanese printing company?

2011/12 - We wouldn't have gotten promoted without Russian money coming into the club in January that year.

Again, feel free to change the subject if you don't like the facts presented.

Sorry if you feel like that, but it was you that first mentioned Mel Morris.

[Jagermesiter1871]

Isn't Madejski of Polish heritage? Surely that's too foreign no? 100% British blood for me or nothing.