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Re: MATCHWATCH : Barnsley (a) sponsored by Simon Osborn

by NewCorkSeth » 10 Dec 2019 16:29

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Hound Think I’d bring Obita back if possible. Puscas/Meite has to be broken up, poor partnership. Actually thought Puscas did ok on Sat - certainly retained the ball a lot better. Meite just doesn’t seem to blend with anyone much - decent player but in the wrong side/set up

Would probably go Joao/Puscas but realise Meite will be very unhappy with that

Ejaria needs to come back in. Baldock on the bench


I really struggle to see what Meite brings to the table, yes maybe as a lone striker or on the right in a 4-2-3-1 formation, other than that he brings nothing really. Puscas has to be the no1 striker with either Joao or Baldock for me.
If Meite is unhappy with this then tough.....its about the team not him.

He brings decent finishing, good speed and physicality and an unmatched (in our squad) ability to both win and score from aerial duels.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Barnsley (a) sponsored by Simon Osborn

by URZZZZ » 10 Dec 2019 16:37

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Hound Think I’d bring Obita back if possible. Puscas/Meite has to be broken up, poor partnership. Actually thought Puscas did ok on Sat - certainly retained the ball a lot better. Meite just doesn’t seem to blend with anyone much - decent player but in the wrong side/set up

Would probably go Joao/Puscas but realise Meite will be very unhappy with that

Ejaria needs to come back in. Baldock on the bench


I really struggle to see what Meite brings to the table, yes maybe as a lone striker or on the right in a 4-2-3-1 formation, other than that he brings nothing really. Puscas has to be the no1 striker with either Joao or Baldock for me.
If Meite is unhappy with this then tough.....its about the team not him.

He brings decent finishing, good speed and physicality and an unmatched (in our squad) ability to both win and score from aerial duels.


Physicality :lol: - he spends half the game on the floor

He isn’t that quick either - in fact on that matter do we actually have a single fast player now McCleary has lost his pace and Barrow has gone

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Barnsley (a) sponsored by Simon Osborn

by Hound » 10 Dec 2019 16:39

Meite's a hard one to know what to do with imo. I think his actual performances have been really poor this year - but largely due to the system, not that he is a poor player as such

Obviously he worked superbly with Barrow last year, and at times previous to that as a lone striker. His lack of control is becoming a real issue though, and he looks bloody miserable half the time nowadays

Like the guy a lot, but I wouldn't be too upset to see him move on in Jan

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by Hound » 10 Dec 2019 16:40

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I really struggle to see what Meite brings to the table, yes maybe as a lone striker or on the right in a 4-2-3-1 formation, other than that he brings nothing really. Puscas has to be the no1 striker with either Joao or Baldock for me.
If Meite is unhappy with this then tough.....its about the team not him.

He brings decent finishing, good speed and physicality and an unmatched (in our squad) ability to both win and score from aerial duels.


Physicality :lol: - he spends half the game on the floor

He isn’t that quick either - in fact on that matter do we actually have a single fast player now McCleary has lost his pace and Barrow has gone


Baldock's pretty nippy. Guessing Richards and maybe Yiadom are our quickest players though

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Barnsley (a) sponsored by Simon Osborn

by NewCorkSeth » 10 Dec 2019 17:00

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I really struggle to see what Meite brings to the table, yes maybe as a lone striker or on the right in a 4-2-3-1 formation, other than that he brings nothing really. Puscas has to be the no1 striker with either Joao or Baldock for me.
If Meite is unhappy with this then tough.....its about the team not him.

He brings decent finishing, good speed and physicality and an unmatched (in our squad) ability to both win and score from aerial duels.


Physicality :lol: - he spends half the game on the floor

He isn’t that quick either - in fact on that matter do we actually have a single fast player now McCleary has lost his pace and Barrow has gone

Yeah. When he gets pushed in the back he goes down. I think hes doing it on purpose to look for a free kick. But he is strong. You will also notice I said good speed and physicality. Not excellent or extraordinary. Good. I know you hate him so theres not much point in trying to highlight his strengths to you but I have an idea. Whenever you see a discussion about Meite on here, remember that everyone on here knows you think he is shite, so dont bother replying to it. We know what you are going to say.


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by NewCorkSeth » 10 Dec 2019 17:01

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NewCorkSeth He brings decent finishing, good speed and physicality and an unmatched (in our squad) ability to both win and score from aerial duels.


Physicality :lol: - he spends half the game on the floor

He isn’t that quick either - in fact on that matter do we actually have a single fast player now McCleary has lost his pace and Barrow has gone


Baldock's pretty nippy. Guessing Richards and maybe Yiadom are our quickest players though

Rinomhota has great acceleration. Its probably Yiadom to be fair. Worth noting that, given the relatively slow players we right now, Meite could be up there in terms of pace.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Barnsley (a) sponsored by Simon Osborn

by URZZZZ » 10 Dec 2019 17:05

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NewCorkSeth He brings decent finishing, good speed and physicality and an unmatched (in our squad) ability to both win and score from aerial duels.


Physicality :lol: - he spends half the game on the floor

He isn’t that quick either - in fact on that matter do we actually have a single fast player now McCleary has lost his pace and Barrow has gone

Yeah. When he gets pushed in the back he goes down. I think hes doing it on purpose to look for a free kick. But he is strong. You will also notice I said good speed and physicality. Not excellent or extraordinary. Good. I know you hate him so theres not much point in trying to highlight his strengths to you but I have an idea. Whenever you see a discussion about Meite on here, remember that everyone on here knows you think he is shite, so dont bother replying to it. We know what you are going to say.


This is coming from you who's criticized Boye in every single game thread since he's joined and played. Cool. I think the word hypocritical comes to mind

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by NewCorkSeth » 10 Dec 2019 17:08

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Physicality :lol: - he spends half the game on the floor

He isn’t that quick either - in fact on that matter do we actually have a single fast player now McCleary has lost his pace and Barrow has gone

Yeah. When he gets pushed in the back he goes down. I think hes doing it on purpose to look for a free kick. But he is strong. You will also notice I said good speed and physicality. Not excellent or extraordinary. Good. I know you hate him so theres not much point in trying to highlight his strengths to you but I have an idea. Whenever you see a discussion about Meite on here, remember that everyone on here knows you think he is shite, so dont bother replying to it. We know what you are going to say.


This is coming from you who's criticized Boye in every single game thread since he's joined and played. Cool. I think the word hypocritical comes to mind

There is a difference. I dont quote other peoples comments about Boye stating their opinion with unsolicited "LOLZ ur opinion is dumb" comments. I will accept I have overstated my distaste for the lesser Lucas. How about I never mention him again in a negative manner and you do the same for Meite? Sound fair?

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by URZZZZ » 10 Dec 2019 17:17

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NewCorkSeth Yeah. When he gets pushed in the back he goes down. I think hes doing it on purpose to look for a free kick. But he is strong. You will also notice I said good speed and physicality. Not excellent or extraordinary. Good. I know you hate him so theres not much point in trying to highlight his strengths to you but I have an idea. Whenever you see a discussion about Meite on here, remember that everyone on here knows you think he is shite, so dont bother replying to it. We know what you are going to say.


This is coming from you who's criticized Boye in every single game thread since he's joined and played. Cool. I think the word hypocritical comes to mind

There is a difference. I dont quote other peoples comments about Boye stating their opinion with unsolicited "LOLZ ur opinion is dumb" comments. I will accept I have overstated my distaste for the lesser Lucas. How about I never mention him again in a negative manner and you do the same for Meite? Sound fair?


Except I didn't. I was questioning your theory as to why you thought he was physical considering for a man of his size, he goes down wayyyyyyy too easy. Although I don't think I'd ever argue with him...

And you're wrong. Contrary to what you think, I don't "hate" Meite. Why would I hate him? I respect anyone that wears the shirt and works hard. I'm not going to hate someone for having low ability levels. And I've highlighted his strengths many a time but in order for people to fit their own agendas, they'll ignore that. I said he played well at Wigan for example. Hell, when Boye has his next good game I'm sure you'd be able to admit it

I can make it a NYR never to say a bad word about Meite again if it'll make you happy...


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by NewCorkSeth » 10 Dec 2019 17:47

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This is coming from you who's criticized Boye in every single game thread since he's joined and played. Cool. I think the word hypocritical comes to mind

There is a difference. I dont quote other peoples comments about Boye stating their opinion with unsolicited "LOLZ ur opinion is dumb" comments. I will accept I have overstated my distaste for the lesser Lucas. How about I never mention him again in a negative manner and you do the same for Meite? Sound fair?


Except I didn't. I was questioning your theory as to why you thought he was physical considering for a man of his size, he goes down wayyyyyyy too easy. Although I don't think I'd ever argue with him...

And you're wrong. Contrary to what you think, I don't "hate" Meite. Why would I hate him? I respect anyone that wears the shirt and works hard. I'm not going to hate someone for having low ability levels. And I've highlighted his strengths many a time but in order for people to fit their own agendas, they'll ignore that. I said he played well at Wigan for example. Hell, when Boye has his next good game I'm sure you'd be able to admit it

I can make it a NYR never to say a bad word about Meite again if it'll make you happy...

We can just have a little competition between us. See who can last longer without slating their respective player.

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by Crowbar6753 » 10 Dec 2019 18:02

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Hound Think I’d bring Obita back if possible. Puscas/Meite has to be broken up, poor partnership. Actually thought Puscas did ok on Sat - certainly retained the ball a lot better. Meite just doesn’t seem to blend with anyone much - decent player but in the wrong side/set up

Would probably go Joao/Puscas but realise Meite will be very unhappy with that

Ejaria needs to come back in. Baldock on the bench


I really struggle to see what Meite brings to the table, yes maybe as a lone striker or on the right in a 4-2-3-1 formation, other than that he brings nothing really. Puscas has to be the no1 striker with either Joao or Baldock for me.
If Meite is unhappy with this then tough.....its about the team not him.

He brings decent finishing, good speed and physicality and an unmatched (in our squad) ability to both win and score from aerial duels.


I like Meite, i really do, but since we moved to the 5-3-2 system he seems to have struggled. When we played 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 he was either the lone striker or the inside right position which really suits his strength and pace. Its also worth noting that when we played 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 he had Barrow tearing up the left flank supplying killer crosses for him to feed off.
However, when we play two up front he really struggles to perform, he is poor at playing with another striker. If we continue to utilize the 5-3-2 system it may be best to offload in Jan.

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by Snowflake Royal » 10 Dec 2019 23:13

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Hound Think I’d bring Obita back if possible. Puscas/Meite has to be broken up, poor partnership. Actually thought Puscas did ok on Sat - certainly retained the ball a lot better. Meite just doesn’t seem to blend with anyone much - decent player but in the wrong side/set up

Would probably go Joao/Puscas but realise Meite will be very unhappy with that

Ejaria needs to come back in. Baldock on the bench


I really struggle to see what Meite brings to the table, yes maybe as a lone striker or on the right in a 4-2-3-1 formation, other than that he brings nothing really. Puscas has to be the no1 striker with either Joao or Baldock for me.
If Meite is unhappy with this then tough.....its about the team not him.

Meite scores in about a quarter of the games he starts, and is a better outlet than Puscas.

Puscas scores in proportionally fewer games and does little other than score (so far). Though it's more often a winning contribution when he does.

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by leon » 10 Dec 2019 23:27

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Hound Think I’d bring Obita back if possible. Puscas/Meite has to be broken up, poor partnership. Actually thought Puscas did ok on Sat - certainly retained the ball a lot better. Meite just doesn’t seem to blend with anyone much - decent player but in the wrong side/set up

Would probably go Joao/Puscas but realise Meite will be very unhappy with that

Ejaria needs to come back in. Baldock on the bench


I really struggle to see what Meite brings to the table, yes maybe as a lone striker or on the right in a 4-2-3-1 formation, other than that he brings nothing really. Puscas has to be the no1 striker with either Joao or Baldock for me.
If Meite is unhappy with this then tough.....its about the team not him.

Meite scores in about a quarter of the games he starts, and is a better outlet than Puscas.

Puscas scores in proportionally fewer games and does little other than score (so far). Though it's more often a winning contribution when he does.


Puscas is still adapting to the English game I’d say but there’s more to Meite than just goals. I think rotating both as part of the squad is the way forward.


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by NewCorkSeth » 11 Dec 2019 09:09

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I really struggle to see what Meite brings to the table, yes maybe as a lone striker or on the right in a 4-2-3-1 formation, other than that he brings nothing really. Puscas has to be the no1 striker with either Joao or Baldock for me.
If Meite is unhappy with this then tough.....its about the team not him.

He brings decent finishing, good speed and physicality and an unmatched (in our squad) ability to both win and score from aerial duels.


I like Meite, i really do, but since we moved to the 5-3-2 system he seems to have struggled. When we played 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 he was either the lone striker or the inside right position which really suits his strength and pace. Its also worth noting that when we played 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 he had Barrow tearing up the left flank supplying killer crosses for him to feed off.
However, when we play two up front he really struggles to perform, he is poor at playing with another striker. If we continue to utilize the 5-3-2 system it may be best to offload in Jan.

I think it is hard to blame to system for Meites struggles. He hasn't had a good run of starts and in the majority of his bench appearances he was brought on when we were struggling to create. Meite is not a striker who creates his own chances. He is also quite similar to Puscas in style of play. The 2 together are rarely going to link up well as both seem to be more focused on finishing rather than assisting.

My guess as to why Baldock and Joao have succeeded more in recent weeks is that neither try to occupy the same space as the other striker. Both move wider and deeper (and are good at creating their own space) whereas Puscas and Meite seem to bunch up making them easier to mark. It doesnt help that both are fairly easy to foul and neither can play with their back to goal.

Overall we have a hodgepodge of strikers where they all struggle to effectively cover each others weaknesses. Baldock/Meite and Puscas/Joao might actually be our most effective pairings. I think we are unlikely to see Puscas outside of the starting 11 so hopefully I am right about Joaos strengths.

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by leon » 11 Dec 2019 09:26

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NewCorkSeth He brings decent finishing, good speed and physicality and an unmatched (in our squad) ability to both win and score from aerial duels.


I like Meite, i really do, but since we moved to the 5-3-2 system he seems to have struggled. When we played 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 he was either the lone striker or the inside right position which really suits his strength and pace. Its also worth noting that when we played 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 he had Barrow tearing up the left flank supplying killer crosses for him to feed off.
However, when we play two up front he really struggles to perform, he is poor at playing with another striker. If we continue to utilize the 5-3-2 system it may be best to offload in Jan.

I think it is hard to blame to system for Meites struggles. He hasn't had a good run of starts and in the majority of his bench appearances he was brought on when we were struggling to create. Meite is not a striker who creates his own chances. He is also quite similar to Puscas in style of play. The 2 together are rarely going to link up well as both seem to be more focused on finishing rather than assisting.

My guess as to why Baldock and Joao have succeeded more in recent weeks is that neither try to occupy the same space as the other striker. Both move wider and deeper (and are good at creating their own space) whereas Puscas and Meite seem to bunch up making them easier to mark. It doesnt help that both are fairly easy to foul and neither can play with their back to goal.

Overall we have a hodgepodge of strikers where they all struggle to effectively cover each others weaknesses. Baldock/Meite and Puscas/Joao might actually be our most effective pairings. I think we are unlikely to see Puscas outside of the starting 11 so hopefully I am right about Joaos strengths.


Which was my point about rotating - it’s about getting the combinations right

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by Hound » 11 Dec 2019 09:29

Its why Baldock is so important, as his game is based on combining with his fellow striker. If you watch him, he is constantly in his partner's ear, telling them where to go etc. I think he could work effectively with any of the others

Joao/Puscas looked ok at times, but also awful at times.

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by Notts Royal » 11 Dec 2019 09:43

SWLR away crowd* predictions?

* - Definition = "a large number of persons gathered closely together"... expect may require use of Roget's


It’s on sky & close to Christmas - 100 at best I reckon!

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by genome » 11 Dec 2019 10:07

Away to bottom of the league... but a bad feeling about this one...

Drab 1-0 loss, goal in the 78th minute

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by Old Man Andrews » 11 Dec 2019 10:08

genome Away to bottom of the league... but a bad feeling about this one...

Drab 1-0 loss, goal in the 78th minute

Negative.

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by genome » 11 Dec 2019 10:12

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genome Away to bottom of the league... but a bad feeling about this one...

Drab 1-0 loss, goal in the 78th minute

Negative.


Bad feelings usually imply negativity, yes

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