The fans....

[ZacNaloen]

Half time the boo's were audible, I heard no boo's at 20 minutes.

Don't think either are wrong tbf

[melonhead]

"Yeah, we got booed off at half-time. Do you notice it?

12 blokes in the north stand booing with 20 minutes to go, wasnt heard at all by the players.

Who to believe.......?

lots of people boo'd at half time,which was noticed by the players and manager, because there were hundreds of people booing
though there was still no massive upsurge in performance as a result



but i am clearly talking about the12 blokes in front of me booing and abusing mcdermott for his tactical change and substitution with twenty minutes to go, just before his tactical change and substitution got us a win.

you can see where im talking about "with twenty minutes to go", when i say "with twenty minutes to go", in the quote wot you have quoted



edit - yeah, thanks zac

[Top Flight]

"Yeah, we got booed off at half-time. Do you notice it?

12 blokes in the north stand booing with 20 minutes to go, wasnt heard at all by the players.

Who to believe.......?

lots of people boo'd at half time,which was noticed by the players and manager, because there were hundreds of people booing
though there was still no massive upsurge in performance as a result



but i am clearly talking about the12 blokes in front of me booing and abusing mcdermott for his tactical change and substitution with twenty minutes to go, just before his tactical change and substitution got us a win.

you can see where im talking about "with twenty minutes to go", when i say "with twenty minutes to go", in the quote wot you have quoted



edit - yeah, thanks zac

Well, I'm a big fan of Mcdermott. I would never argue with his tactical nous or his capabilities in the transfer market. When many fans on this forum were losing patience and calling for his head, I was backing him to the hilt. All Mcdermott has ever done since he has been managing Reading FC, is slowly but surely make progress step by step, even in the face of adversity, even when being forced to lose his best players, it has always been one step back and then two steps forward. McDermott is a fantastic manager and he should absolutely receive the continued backing of the fans and club.

Everyone was critising McDermott because Tabb and Leigertwood were shit, yet there was nothing that McDermott could do about it until January. Now that Karacan is back from injury and Guthrie has mended relations and stopped acting like a twat and with midfield signings bolstering our options, you can now see what Brian really thought about Tabb and Leigertwoods contributions to the side.

Brian absolutely knows, exactly what he is doing and he is doing a brilliant job. Long live Brian and Long may you reign over Reading FC.

[RobRoyal]

Not sure I completely agree with McDermott's attitude or Glendenning's appreciation of it, but it's nice to have a manager at the club who anyone could describe as "classy," given that you can count the number of classy people involved in Premiership football on the fingers of a hand that's been trapped in a thresher.

[melonhead]

^^^ yay

[Royalclapper]

There is some relevance in what the expectations are of the paying spectator. The over commercialisation of football has probably amplified the situation of the modern, and at times, impossible to please football supporter. The more experienced players and management are well versed on learning to live with inflated expectation/lack of support.

Rooney's outburst in South Africa was an interesting one, he's just not used to being in a mediocre team (domestic level) and reacted to a different audience in his untamed manner. Probably felt like being in a band who are massive and adored in the UK, yet as soon as you get overseas they just don't get you which means it doesn't feel comfortable anymore. In some tournaments England have had 60%+ of the stadium's fan base and still been poor whereas Wigan play to low attendances and often perform really well. Both are likely to endure episodes of booing at some point though, and it's no different at RFC.

[melonhead]

it is different at RFC

i take pride that we are different.

vast majority of clubs would have been howling for BM to go after about a month of premiere league footy. we didnt.
even when some eventually started to grumble at the games it wasnt huge, and was kept to half time and after the game.

i like it that everyone else clamours to sack managers, and we clamour to keep ours.


when we were relegated last time, the other two teams who came down had demonstrations at their stadiums demanding the manager be sacked.

we had one demanding he stayed.

i like that

[Royal Prince]

Our fans embarrass me at times, especially those around me on match days. I swear they only go to have a bitch and a moan, if you don't enjoy it oxf*rd off!

Booing as a collective or having a rant on here is understandable, each to their own and all that, however the behaviour on match days around me is appaling. Seriously, its been relentless all season. Even if you feel certain players aren't performing to their full potential every week do you really think its acceptable to berate and abuse them at every touch of the ball? It' 's the same players singled out week in week out regardless of their performance on the day. Even during Saturday's match the likes of the Pog, Guthrie and McAnuff came in for yet more abuse, despite seemingly playing well (also interesting to note the player ratings in Sunday's papers, they too must have been watching a different game to the mugs around me).

I know it shouldn't bother me, but it's starting to irritate and impact on my enjoyment of the game. At times I wish I could find out where these people worked, would be interesting to see how they would react should I go sit next to them for the afternoon screaming 'you're typing is oxf*rd shit' and 'why don't you go home you lazy work shy oxf*rd' at them.

<rant over>

[Rex]

Our fans embarrass me at times, especially those around me on match days. I swear they only go to have a bitch and a moan, if you don't enjoy it oxf*rd off!

Booing as a collective or having a rant on here is understandable, each to their own and all that, however the behaviour on match days around me is appaling. Seriously, its been relentless all season. Even if you feel certain players aren't performing to their full potential every week do you really think its acceptable to berate and abuse them at every touch of the ball? It' 's the same players singled out week in week out regardless of their performance on the day. Even during Saturday's match the likes of the Pog, Guthrie and McAnuff came in for yet more abuse, despite seemingly playing well (also interesting to note the player ratings in Sunday's papers, they too must have been watching a different game to the mugs around me).

I know it shouldn't bother me, but it's starting to irritate and impact on my enjoyment of the game. At times I wish I could find out where these people worked, would be interesting to see how they would react should I go sit next to them for the afternoon screaming 'you're typing is oxf*rd shit' and 'why don't you go home you lazy work shy oxf*rd' at them.

<rant over>

Perhaps inversely they hate their jobs.

[RoyalBlue]

Well, I'm a big fan of Mcdermott. I would never argue with his tactical nous or his capabilities in the transfer market. When many fans on this forum were losing patience and calling for his head, I was backing him to the hilt. All Mcdermott has ever done since he has been managing Reading FC, is slowly but surely make progress step by step, even in the face of adversity, even when being forced to lose his best players, it has always been one step back and then two steps forward. McDermott is a fantastic manager and he should absolutely receive the continued backing of the fans and club.

Everyone was critising McDermott because Tabb and Leigertwood were shit, yet there was nothing that McDermott could do about it until January. .

He could, and should, have signed at least one more decent central midfielder during the summer. It was already clear that the jury was out on whether Legs and/or Tabb was good enough to be a regular starter in the PL and Jem was still injured at that point.

[sandman]

massicve lol at the tw@s around me who were booing and calling for the managers head, and saying he didint know what he was doing when he took of karacan and went 4-4-2

didnt even have the balls to look sheepish about it when we won

The three wise monkey's who sit behind me who were going on and on about how great Swansea were on boxing day started moaning when we were passing it about in the first half then the first time a long ball was played they moaned that we should play it on the floor.

About 10 minutes later WBA had the ball on Gunter's side and one of them starts saying "Where's Harte? He should have been there", I tell you where he is mate, he's playing left back like he's supposed to.

Then to top it off his sage advice to ALF is to hit the penalty as hard as he can through the middle because "this keeper is good at saving penalties". An English keeper that's good at saving penalties, that'll be the day.

Don't know where we get these people from.

[Royal With Cheese]

The three wise monkey's who sit behind me who were going on and on about how great Swansea were on boxing day started moaning when we were passing it about in the first half then the first time a long ball was played they moaned that we should play it on the floor.

This neatly encapsulates my lack of empathy towards large sections of Reading's supporter base.

[melonhead]

Well, I'm a big fan of Mcdermott. I would never argue with his tactical nous or his capabilities in the transfer market. When many fans on this forum were losing patience and calling for his head, I was backing him to the hilt. All Mcdermott has ever done since he has been managing Reading FC, is slowly but surely make progress step by step, even in the face of adversity, even when being forced to lose his best players, it has always been one step back and then two steps forward. McDermott is a fantastic manager and he should absolutely receive the continued backing of the fans and club.

Everyone was critising McDermott because Tabb and Leigertwood were shit, yet there was nothing that McDermott could do about it until January. .

He could, and should, have signed at least one more decent central midfielder during the summer. It was already clear that the jury was out on whether Legs and/or Tabb was good enough to be a regular starter in the PL and Jem was still injured at that point.

perhaps he thought that with 4 players for 2 positions, and 6 other positions that needed filling more urgently, that he should spend his peanut budget somewhere ese

[Top Flight]

Well, I'm a big fan of Mcdermott. I would never argue with his tactical nous or his capabilities in the transfer market. When many fans on this forum were losing patience and calling for his head, I was backing him to the hilt. All Mcdermott has ever done since he has been managing Reading FC, is slowly but surely make progress step by step, even in the face of adversity, even when being forced to lose his best players, it has always been one step back and then two steps forward. McDermott is a fantastic manager and he should absolutely receive the continued backing of the fans and club.

Everyone was critising McDermott because Tabb and Leigertwood were shit, yet there was nothing that McDermott could do about it until January. .

He could, and should, have signed at least one more decent central midfielder during the summer. It was already clear that the jury was out on whether Legs and/or Tabb was good enough to be a regular starter in the PL and Jem was still injured at that point.

perhaps he thought that with 4 players for 2 positions, and 6 other positions that needed filling more urgently, that he should spend his peanut budget somewhere ese

Well he did sign Guthrie in the summer and no one would have known how that would have turned out in the first half of the season.

Guthrie + Leigertwood / Tabb might have been alright. But it's difficult. You never really know how the boys will perform in the top tier until you watch them for a few games and see how they get on. Problem is after a few games then the transfer window closes.

It didn't help that the Sunderland game was postponed right before the transfer deadline. It would have been good for McD to see the lads perform one more time before the deadline. He might have added one more re-enforcement if another poor performance was put in at Sunderland.

[melonhead]

agreed



also lol at the bloke next to me moaning about kebe, "get him off, he's shit"
about two minutes before he changed the game

[The bitter biscuit]

Not sure if anyone heard the smattering of fans in Y19 that starting singing '5 parkinsons' just after the Jem substitution.. As for booing, i don't see it makes any positive contribution..

[Ian Royal]

I've had some experience of performing on stage. All I can say is that when the audience give a good reaction to the show, it lifts you. If it's not going too well, and the reaction is not so good, it is that much harder to raise your performance.

Absolutely, and it can mean you try that little bit too hard to lift things and get a spark going and end up overforcing things and being unnatural, which just makes it all the worse.

It's clear that fans can provide that extra little that can tip the scales either way. Clearly they're not going to change the result on their own if there's a gulf in class.

We all know it's a good sign if you're playing away and it's 0-0 or you're 1-0 up 30 minutes into the match and the home crowd starts getting pensive and restless. We're tribal creatures and the emotions of others leach into you. That's why smiles and yawns and frowns can seem infectious sometimes.

[SydenhamRoyal]

Not sure I completely agree with McDermott's attitude or Glendenning's appreciation of it, but it's nice to have a manager at the club who anyone could describe as "classy," given that you can count the number of classy people involved in Premiership football on the fingers of a hand that's been trapped in a thresher.

where one finger was at a weird angle and survived