Reading FC and the transfer window

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Re: Reading FC and the transfer window

by papereyes » 24 Aug 2011 12:19

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southbank1871 9 fukking paragraphs, are you serious? I'm obviously not reading all that, but can I assume it's stuff that's already been covered on countless other threads?



basically yes, but with the point that teams need to start the season well to be successful

doesnt really tally to our last two season starts :|


or even the one before that when we started well and then imploded in a slow motion stylee after Xmas.

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Re: Reading FC and the transfer window

by Thankgodisfriday » 24 Aug 2011 12:24

I actually think that Andrew has made some good points and from our promotion years a settled team in pre season is one that does better than one with many late additions.
I would also argue that "well managed" should mean having a plan to buy and sell earlier and well.The points we drop early season could well equate to missed promotion,so theres a huge cost implication in terms of how we do it now and how we should

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Re: Reading FC and the transfer window

by Row Z Royal » 24 Aug 2011 12:40

muddyfeet can a mod please merge all whole team board as it effectively says the same thing in the end

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Re: Reading FC and the transfer window

by friday fan » 24 Aug 2011 12:49

Many of us feel frustrated and when vent our spleen we get the pro SJM supporters in our face and you should expect the comments that have been made. A number of things could be done alot better but RFC is a selling club and replacements (if any) are bought after sales occur. I can't fathom SJM out he wants a good price for the club but in order to get that he really needs RFC to be in the Prem, but he is not willing to roll the dice financially to try to achieve that. Meanwhile fans start the season on a downer talking of survival rather than promotion from day one. I'll just take week by week and not get too hopeful and perhaps one day someone with some loot and passion buys the club. If I were you don't respond as you will get slated as there are too many SJM ass lickers on here

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Re: Reading FC and the transfer window

by Big Ern » 24 Aug 2011 12:52

Arnie_Pie Another poorly thought out thread from andrew1957.


I would disagree. There was absolutely no thought put into it.


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Re: Reading FC and the transfer window

by Row Z Royal » 24 Aug 2011 12:54

friday fan I can't fathom SJM out he wants a good price for the club but in order to get that he really needs RFC to be in the Prem, but he is not willing to roll the dice financially to try to achieve that.


Really?



The Beeny Right now, with a sound platform from which to build, a prospective investor will see a great deal of added value to come from Reading FC. Rather than spend over the odds initially on a mid-table Premier League team, buy a club with good foundation for growth, just like that bent Thai bloke did with Leicester, and push on from there.


I agree with Sarah.

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Re: Reading FC and the transfer window

by roadrunner » 24 Aug 2011 13:02

The Beeny Right now, with a sound platform from which to build, a prospective investor will see a great deal of added value to come from Reading FC. Rather than spend over the odds initially on a mid-table Premier League team, buy a club with good foundation for growth, just like that bent Thai bloke did with Leicester, and push on from there.


But a lot of clubs that get bought out are in financial difficulties and cheap to pick up. Madejski wants/wanted something like £100m even at this level and we're not worth that. We're not worth half that! Who on earth will come in and pay that when they can wait for a Cardiff to struggle, pay £1 and have a club with the new stadium and facilities etc..?

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Re: Reading FC and the transfer window

by Row Z Royal » 24 Aug 2011 13:04

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The Beeny Right now, with a sound platform from which to build, a prospective investor will see a great deal of added value to come from Reading FC. Rather than spend over the odds initially on a mid-table Premier League team, buy a club with good foundation for growth, just like that bent Thai bloke did with Leicester, and push on from there.


But a lot of clubs that get bought out are in financial difficulties and cheap to pick up. Madejski wants/wanted something like £100m even at this level and we're not worth that. We're not worth half that! Who on earth will come in and pay that when they can wait for a Cardiff to struggle, pay £1 and have a club with the new stadium and facilities etc..?


Plucking numbers out of the air, as is the fashion, but what's the difference between picking up a club for a statutory £1 and taking ownership of £50m debts + liabilities and picking up a virtually debt free club with soundly forecasted liabilities for £50m?

What I'm saying is, we're a good business already so that hard work doesn't need to be done. If the right offer came in from the right person (in Madejski's eyes) then that would be that.

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Re: Reading FC and the transfer window

by ZacNaloen » 24 Aug 2011 13:08

The difference is that you don't need so much money up front.


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Re: Reading FC and the transfer window

by brendywendy » 24 Aug 2011 13:11

andrew1957 The Championship is a division where you really need to start well.


ignoring everything weve seen in the last few seasons, you may be right.





shit- must read rest of thread before replying to OP

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Re: Reading FC and the transfer window

by Tony Le Mesmer » 24 Aug 2011 13:13

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The Beeny Right now, with a sound platform from which to build, a prospective investor will see a great deal of added value to come from Reading FC. Rather than spend over the odds initially on a mid-table Premier League team, buy a club with good foundation for growth, just like that bent Thai bloke did with Leicester, and push on from there.


But a lot of clubs that get bought out are in financial difficulties and cheap to pick up. Madejski wants/wanted something like £100m even at this level and we're not worth that. We're not worth half that! Who on earth will come in and pay that when they can wait for a Cardiff to struggle, pay £1 and have a club with the new stadium and facilities etc..?


Plucking numbers out of the air, as is the fashion, but what's the difference between picking up a club for a statutory £1 and taking ownership of £50m debts + liabilities and picking up a virtually debt free club with soundly forecasted liabilities for £50m?

What I'm saying is, we're a good business already so that hard work doesn't need to be done. If the right offer came in from the right person (in Madejski's eyes) then that would be that.


Er, because when you pick up the club for £1, you dont actually pay off the debts, leaving you free to spend a fortune on players. See Pompey, Soton, etc, etc,etc....

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Re: Reading FC and the transfer window

by Row Z Royal » 24 Aug 2011 13:16

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Plucking numbers out of the air, as is the fashion, but what's the difference between picking up a club for a statutory £1 and taking ownership of £50m debts + liabilities and picking up a virtually debt free club with soundly forecasted liabilities for £50m?

What I'm saying is, we're a good business already so that hard work doesn't need to be done. If the right offer came in from the right person (in Madejski's eyes) then that would be that.


Er, because when you pick up the club for £1, you dont actually pay off the debts, leaving you free to spend a fortune on players. See Pompey, Soton, etc, etc,etc....

The owner/Club is still liable for the debts though m8. You can just borrow more because there's a greater guarantee of the borrowings.

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Re: Reading FC and the transfer window

by Nick Shorey my Lord! » 24 Aug 2011 13:17

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andrew1957 The Championship is a division where you really need to start well. .



stopped reading after this


I shouldn't have even opened the thread. Just a massive facepalm of a post.
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Re: Reading FC and the transfer window

by brendywendy » 24 Aug 2011 13:18

but they dont have to pay them back themselves. the club pays them back, at the same rate as before. all that is different is that the owner has aquired a football club for a quid.
to them the 50 million means nothing, it has no effect on them at all, other than to drive down the price of the club

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Re: Reading FC and the transfer window

by Row Z Royal » 24 Aug 2011 13:19

brendywendy but they dont have to pay them back themselves. the club pays them back, at the same rate as before. all that is different is that the owner has aquired a football club for a quid.
to them the 50 million means nothing, it has no effect on them at all, other than to drive down the price of the club


And this is where the "right man (in Madejski's eyes)" bit comes in.

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Re: Reading FC and the transfer window

by Row Z Royal » 24 Aug 2011 13:20

Nick Shorey my Lord!
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andrew1957 The Championship is a division where you really need to start well. .



stopped reading after this


I shouldn't have even opened the thread. Just a massive facepalm of a post.


There's no expectation on you to have read the rest of the thread, m8.

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Re: Reading FC and the transfer window

by brendywendy » 24 Aug 2011 13:29

friday fan Many of us feel frustrated and when vent our spleen we get the pro SJM supporters in our face


i hear what you are saying but it just sounds like Waaaa Waaaa Waaaaa
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dont ever get the impression that i dont value your input to the board though.
its all just words, and as long as its not abusive, it cant hurt can it. we are all men here. apart from the girls.

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Re: Reading FC and the transfer window

by brendywendy » 24 Aug 2011 16:23

ok. so thats leigertwood. mills jr, and gorkss. three of ourt problem areas filled, and quite astutely imo.
then maybe a loan striker, if our current lot dont do the business, later in the season.
bingo

good work BM and NH

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Re: Reading FC and the transfer window

by The Prisoner » 24 Aug 2011 16:47

The dangers of posting just before we spunk (what for us) is a load of cash on a proven defender.

Ah the benefit of hindsight......

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Re: Reading FC and the transfer window

by brendywendy » 24 Aug 2011 17:11

in an ideal world im with you, but since its not, im guessing well wait and see on strikers, and give nhunt/church/manset the same chances long got, till xmas. then a loan in if required

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