BRIAN MCDERMOTT SIGN HIM UP

[SouthDownsRoyal]

The right option? Most probably.

If you like league 1 football, yeah.

[Kitson12]

Sign him up, he has guided is to bottom 3. Top coach.

Just shut up you boring idiot, and what about Rodgers? Would we be above and away from the relegation zone? Probably not, would he have been able to bring the team to beat Liverpool, no. Played well in the second half against Forest, albeit not in the first, but the signs are promising, and I would be very pleased if McDermott was appointed as manager.

[West Stand Flash]

Sign him up, he has guided is to bottom 3. Top coach.

Just shut up you boring idiot, and what about Rodgers? Would we be above and away from the relegation zone? Probably not, would he have been able to bring the team to beat Liverpool, no. Played well in the second half against Forest, albeit not in the first, but the signs are promising, and I would be very pleased if McDermott was appointed as manager.

And thank the lord your not our chairman.

Goodnight.

[rfcjoe]

The right option? Most probably.

If you like league 1 football, yeah.

I stand by what I said. If my mind changes, I'll happily admit to it.

[SouthDownsRoyal]

Sign him up, he has guided is to bottom 3. Top coach.

Just shut up you boring idiot, and what about Rodgers? Would we be above and away from the relegation zone? Probably not, would he have been able to bring the team to beat Liverpool, no. Played well in the second half against Forest, albeit not in the first, but the signs are promising, and I would be very pleased if McDermott was appointed as manager.

LOL - Past your bed time I think, school tomorrow remember.

[SouthDownsRoyal]

The right option? Most probably.

If you like league 1 football, yeah.

I stand by what I said. If my mind changes, I'll happily admit to it.

Fair play m8

[Kitson12]

Sign him up, he has guided is to bottom 3. Top coach.

Just shut up you boring idiot, and what about Rodgers? Would we be above and away from the relegation zone? Probably not, would he have been able to bring the team to beat Liverpool, no. Played well in the second half against Forest, albeit not in the first, but the signs are promising, and I would be very pleased if McDermott was appointed as manager.

LOL - Past your bed time I think, school tomorrow remember.

POTD, ever thought about journalism?

[Sun Tzu]

What was in their contracts is pretty irrelevant and something of a smokescreen.

Given the sale/disposal of players we have witnessed since the end of last season and the pitiful amount in comparison that has been spent on inward transfers, does anyone seriously believe that Madejski and co would not have cashed in on all of the star players, regardless of whether or not their contracts entitled them to be released?!

I don't think there is any doubt that Hunt, Bikey and Doyle wouldhave gone whatever the contractual situation. Certainly Hunt would have made it nigh on impossible not to do what the vast majority of fans wanted and get rid. Doyle would have been more diplomatic but again he ( and his agent) would have been smashing down the chairman's door about a move. I doubt any Championship chairman wouldhave turned down the money we were offered for him. We got very good money for Bikey who had probably ended his career here in his moment of madness at Turf Moor anyway. Of the players released at the end of last season I'm not sure many were poor decisions, Murts had a terrible injury record, Duberry was not playing well, Marcus had a line of younger (and yes cheaper) successors but given how he has done at Wolves he was clealry not washed up as many suggested at times last season.

So realistically I would say most of the exits last summer were always going to happen when we failed to get promoted. Given the needs of the club financially we probably focussed on gettingthe most we could for the players rather than persuading them to stay, but the three big sales would have happened even if we were flush with cash IMHO.

[One Beer is never enough.]

Sign him up, he has guided is to bottom 3. Top coach.

TBF, we are top of the bottom 3....

[Forest Gump]

Apart from perhaps the Plymouth game he's had quite a difficult start. I don't expect any return from Sheffield Utd away but the Barnsley game is crucial. If we fail to win that then I think it is time to look outside the Club.

At least not having a manager means we can't sack him and the next in line is Hammond whom, to be quite frank, is not disliked by everyone for no good reason. If Madejski wants to avoid a complete personal disaster he had better realise that his sub-standard management team are holding this club back and, if the Club gets relegated, life will be very uncomfortable for all concerned.

[Ian Royal]

What was in their contracts is pretty irrelevant and something of a smokescreen.

Given the sale/disposal of players we have witnessed since the end of last season and the pitiful amount in comparison that has been spent on inward transfers, does anyone seriously believe that Madejski and co would not have cashed in on all of the star players, regardless of whether or not their contracts entitled them to be released?!

I don't think there is any doubt that Hunt, Bikey and Doyle wouldhave gone whatever the contractual situation. Certainly Hunt would have made it nigh on impossible not to do what the vast majority of fans wanted and get rid. Doyle would have been more diplomatic but again he ( and his agent) would have been smashing down the chairman's door about a move. I doubt any Championship chairman wouldhave turned down the money we were offered for him. We got very good money for Bikey who had probably ended his career here in his moment of madness at Turf Moor anyway. Of the players released at the end of last season I'm not sure many were poor decisions, Murts had a terrible injury record, Duberry was not playing well, Marcus had a line of younger (and yes cheaper) successors but given how he has done at Wolves he was clealry not washed up as many suggested at times last season.

So realistically I would say most of the exits last summer were always going to happen when we failed to get promoted. Given the needs of the club financially we probably focussed on gettingthe most we could for the players rather than persuading them to stay, but the three big sales would have happened even if we were flush with cash IMHO.

Doyle doesn't have an agent.

[Hoop Blah]

Ian, you might want to read this: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2009/jul/13/mick-wallace-kevin-doyle-agent

[Ian Royal]

can't be arsed.

I've seen several times things say that he doesn't use an agent and gets a solicitor to do contract negotiations.

If that's wrong, fair dos

[Hoop Blah]

can't be arsed.

I've seen several times things say that he doesn't use an agent and gets a solicitor to do contract negotiations.

If that's wrong, fair dos

Well as you can't be arsed, I'll give you a quick precis. It's an article about Doyles agent/representative who helped him 'engineer' his move to Wolves and who was effectively dealing with the interested parties.

Wallace has been an integral part of 'Team Doyle' since his time at Wexford.

Although it shows you up as wrong, yet again, it's actually an interesting piece that you might get something out of reading!

EDIT: What is the difference between having a solicitor do your negotiations and an agent doing the same? It's still someone looking after your interests on your behalf.

[brendywendy]

smaller percentage? and less incentive to engineer a move due to other solicitor income?more expertise in legal issues involved

only three i can think of

[Hoop Blah]

Based on what information though?

You don't have any idea what Doyle's man is on fee wise, if any of course. Reading that article he actually sounds like he wanted to get Doyle away from Reading because the turgid midfield we had supplying him wasn't doing anything for Doyles form or development.

I don't doubt he is better than some agents, but then agents aren't all the money hungry agitators that the press like to make out.

[Ian Royal]

can't be arsed.

I've seen several times things say that he doesn't use an agent and gets a solicitor to do contract negotiations.

If that's wrong, fair dos

Well as you can't be arsed, I'll give you a quick precis. It's an article about Doyles agent/representative who helped him 'engineer' his move to Wolves and who was effectively dealing with the interested parties.

Wallace has been an integral part of 'Team Doyle' since his time at Wexford.

Although it shows you up as wrong, yet again, it's actually an interesting piece that you might get something out of reading!

EDIT: What is the difference between having a solicitor do your negotiations and an agent doing the same? It's still someone looking after your interests on your behalf.

A football agent is quite different to a solicitor.

And I can't help it if the information about Doyle's representation in the past is wrong now can I? I'm not about to research every little detail I read about a player to the nth degree.

Read it now, and I don't see what your beef is. He certainly doesn't seem to be a typical football agent, so I would guess that is where the confusion has come from. I'm certainly not the only one on here who has said Doyle doesn't use a football agent.

[Hoop Blah]

No beef, I was just offering you some interesting background info which you turned your nose up at.

As for big differences between agents and solicitors, I think that's purely down to the individuals involved. God knows solicitors are hardly known for their goodwill and generosity towards their clients whilst away from the media perception a lot of agents work very hard for their players and clubs.

[Sarah Star]

I think Steve Claridge has been reading this thread

Brian McDermott has inspired Reading after a dismal first half to the season. Is he the perfect man for the Reading job, thanks largely to his long role with the club and the fact that he knows the club like the back of his hand?
Robin Ellis, Wales

Robin, just because Brian has been there so long and knows the players doesn't mean a thing. Any good manager can go in there and within 10 days know the players, the ground and so on. Because you know a club well doesn't mean you get success as a result.

I don't see a problem with leaving McDermott in place until the end of the season

Can Brian succeed at Reading? Well, the bar was so low that he couldn't do any worse than they were doing when he took over. In that respect, it was a good job to take. He's got a great affiliation with the club and that will buy him some latitude from the fans. It's unlikely he will demand reams of transfers from the board either. That will sit well with the board because Reading have always been a prudent club.

On the pitch, Brian's done OK. The performances have improved and, on occasion, they haven't got the results they possibly deserved. The Nottingham Forest match, which they lost 2-1, is a case in point.

I'm not saying give him a three-year deal immediately, but I don't see a problem with leaving him in place until the end of the season and seeing how he goes. Reading are not out of the woods yet - and regardless of whatever improvement he has made there they still have to pick up points and kick away from that drop zone.

If he stays until the end of the season and keeps them up, he's done his job. Time will tell.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/8468487.stm

Though if the bar was set low and performances have improved, what does that say about Rodgers?

He also has something to say about us beating Liverpool, but that's another story.

[Millsy]

All discussion is pointless.

WE NEED A MANAGER NOW.