Gylfi is leaving Reading

[howser]

Agreed Royal, but the Madejski "love children" will still be bleating on about the alleged £4M deficit even if we sell, Gylfi, Feds, McAnuf we will still be told we have a £4M deficit whoever we sell or get rid of we always seem to have a deficit that prevents investment in the team.

[Smoking Kills Dancing Doe]

Remember it's more important to keep our best young players than sign the likes of Kish.

[Turns8]

I am surprised that the rumours are about a German side ? I would have hung my hat on him going to the Premiership. Will be interesting to see what happens if he does depart, Madejski isnt exactly known for his love of the costs to do with football, but it does have its advantages to him as he can bolster his other failing assets by the selling of the players. Will be interesting to hears McD's take on this especially if the money isnt re-invested, which in the present Madejski climate, is most unlikely, surly must make his position untennable.

It's not about re-investing the money in the playing squad...it's about balancing the books...£4m deficit remember....jeezy chrizzy how many times do some people need to be told

Yes but we got rid of a lot of players either for a fee, or at any rate made savings on their wages and we signed ONE player. On a FREE. So we can't still have 4 million outstanding in any case.

Still think that currently operating costs and expenditure >>> current income....given the reduced season tickets, reduced revenue from marketing/sponsorship..

20,000 ST @ Premier prices >>>>> 12,000 ST @ this years reduced rate
Empty boxes this season, reduced matchday hospitality numbers, fewer sponsors...etc...the list goes on....

[soggy biscuit]

While I do usually LOL at interweb rumours I can see that Ralf Rangnick has stated that they will be able to confirm their replacement for Carlos Eduardo tomorrow, Though he did say that the signing would be able to go straight into the first team.

They got €20M for Carlos Eduardo so I hope the mad man holds out for as much as possible

[Kingsley's Kousin]

Still think that currently operating costs and expenditure >>> current income....given the reduced season tickets, reduced revenue from marketing/sponsorship..

20,000 ST @ Premier prices >>>>> 12,000 ST @ this years reduced rate
Empty boxes this season, reduced matchday hospitality numbers, fewer sponsors...etc...the list goes on....

And selling our best player is the way to deal with that? Crowds go down, people don't renew. Absolute shambles of a descending spiral.

[Kingsley's Kousin]

While I do usually LOL at interweb rumours I can see that Ralf Rangnick has stated that they will be able to confirm their replacement for Carlos Eduardo tomorrow, Though he did say that the signing would be able to go straight into the first team.

They got €20M for Carlos Eduardo so I hope the mad man holds out for as much as possible

There's a release fee, by all accounts.

[Royal Lady]

Turns - so by your reckoning, despite the money saved on players we've still got a black hole? I'm sure JM would have accounted for that when he told we need to save 4 million and cut our cloth (again).

It's a shambles -

[paultheroyal]

Gylfi and his father are currently in London in negotiations with Hoffenheim directors.

Your confusing me now, as in two posts you said he was in Germany for his medical today, and another for tying up the deal.

[Turns8]

Still think that currently operating costs and expenditure >>> current income....given the reduced season tickets, reduced revenue from marketing/sponsorship..

20,000 ST @ Premier prices >>>>> 12,000 ST @ this years reduced rate
Empty boxes this season, reduced matchday hospitality numbers, fewer sponsors...etc...the list goes on....

And selling our best player is the way to deal with that? Crowds go down, people don't renew. Absolute shambles of a descending spiral.

Sucide rates in small town near London spiral due to a player being sold!!!!!!!!! seriously people.....

Deal with it....

Sig is a good player but teams have begun to realise how to stiffle him and as a result the whole formation we employ fails....and we have become abit of a one trick pony...maybe it won't be such a bad thing....

[toppy]

From the Daily Mail




Reading midfielder Gylfi Sigurdsson is close to joining German side Hoffenheim in a £3m deal.



£3m!!! I bloody well hope not

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Re ... 67933.html

[RoyalBlue]

I am surprised that the rumours are about a German side ? I would have hung my hat on him going to the Premiership. Will be interesting to see what happens if he does depart, Madejski isnt exactly known for his love of the costs to do with football, but it does have its advantages to him as he can bolster his other failing assets by the selling of the players. Will be interesting to hears McD's take on this especially if the money isnt re-invested, which in the present Madejski climate, is most unlikely, surly must make his position untennable.

It's not about re-investing the money in the playing squad...it's about balancing the books...£4m deficit remember....jeezy chrizzy how many times do some people need to be told

Jeezy chrizzy!! How many more times will the truly gullible keep swallowing this load of b*llocks and fail to spot/completely ignore the glaring inconsistencies in the statements made by the business managers of the club year on year. This incredibly well run club 'the envy of others' manages to lose money during its most affluent times, cuts cloth to balance books and yet the next season is in debt again!!

You can't have it both ways guys. If the club really is in such a financial mess each year, to the extent that it can only keep selling players and failing to reinvest in the squad, then it clearly hasn't been as well run as has been made out.

And just how do those in charge think they are ever going to recover by continuing to rape the playing side of the club? Crowds and income will continue to drop, further cuts will be made, the squad will not be strong enough for the Championship, League 1 football and back around the loop again.

There is only one outcome for businesses that fail to compete effectively in the market within which they operate!

Seems to me that Siggy signed a new deal with an £3m escape clause, according to the Chronicle report on friday, so far no one has come along and offered that. Now it appears Hoffers have put the money on the table. I would love to see him stay, but the club were fair in the new deal, as was Siggy.

You cannot really blame the club or JM, how do you get a player to stay when a much better offer comes along, it will be the same with McNuff and Feds, money talks.

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But you can blame JM for failing to reinvest money gained from such 'forced' sales in the squad. No doubt his followers will claim he wasn't sure the player would be sold and therefore couldn't reinvest any money before he was sold. However, if Madejski hasn't got a pretty clear idea of what is likely to happen ahead of it happening then he is an even bigger pr*tt than even I take him for! What's more just as you businesses factor likely sales opportunities and run the business accordingly(rather than waiting till all the sales are secured) so the same principle could be applied in this situation.

[Turns8]

Turns - so by your reckoning, despite the money saved on players we've still got a black hole? I'm sure JM would have accounted for that when he told we need to save 4 million and cut our cloth (again).

It's a shambles -

I'm off to the stadium with my 'Save the Sig' banner... if there's no one up there then i'm going to Heathrow to stop him getting on the flight to Germany...if he's already flown then i'm getting the next flight to Hoffenheim...and will be outside the ground....

C'mon losers....who's with me????

BH Monday....got nothing better to do!!!

[Kingsley's Kousin]

Admittedly we can do nothing about it, but it won't stop us being incredibly disappointed if it does happen.

[strap]

Well, I'm inclined to believe Icelandstokie - there's no reason for him to make this up and he normally puts any rumours (which actually often are then true) in UR&G.

Still, I'm sure Strap's Boy will be the first at the club to be told any developments!

And there's me trying to be helpful to the board!

With respect, I pay a lot more attention to someone who keeps his ears and eys open within the club than a Daily Mirror reporter regurgitating second hand stories from an Icelandic newspaper. The training ground is a surprisingly small tight-nit community, and there aren't too many confidential items of news that stay secret for very long. (Won't tax your attention span with dozens of examples he has previously provided that have all been correct, but not put here to preserve his confidentiality - but this one is big). But hey, if you prefer your "truth" from the Daily Mirror, that is your right.

[RoyalBlue]

Well, I'm inclined to believe Icelandstokie - there's no reason for him to make this up and he normally puts any rumours (which actually often are then true) in UR&G.

Still, I'm sure Strap's Boy will be the first at the club to be told any developments!

And there's me trying to be helpful to the board!

With respect, I pay a lot more attention to someone who keeps his ears and eys open within the club than a Daily Mirror reporter regurgitating second hand stories from an Icelandic newspaper. The training ground is a surprisingly small tight-nit community, and there aren't too many confidential items of news that stay secret for very long. (Won't tax your attention span with dozens of examples he has previously provided that have all been correct, but not put here to preserve his confidentiality - but this one is big). But hey, if you prefer your "truth" from the Daily Mirror, that is your right.

But Strap, McD himself dropped very big hints about at least one likely departure in an interview with Dellor last week. He did not sound at all happy about the prospect (so it's unlikely to be one of the 'outcasts'). What's more he very pointedly stressed that Rasiak's departure was the 'right thing for the club financially' rather than countering Dellor's argument that his departure removed a striking option.

[Rev Algenon Stickleback H]

Still think that currently operating costs and expenditure >>> current income....given the reduced season tickets, reduced revenue from marketing/sponsorship..

20,000 ST @ Premier prices >>>>> 12,000 ST @ this years reduced rate
Empty boxes this season, reduced matchday hospitality numbers, fewer sponsors...etc...the list goes on....

And selling our best player is the way to deal with that? Crowds go down, people don't renew. Absolute shambles of a descending spiral.

How would you suggest dealing with it?


The question that bothers me is how, despite off-loading our big earners, are we still failing to break even? Either our squad, to a man, is overpaid, or we are losing money somewhere else.

[Schards#2]

The only surprise is that anyone is surprised by this. What have you been doing for the past 4 years while the team has been systematically weakened by the sales of player who can command a decent fee to be replaced by cheaper inferior alternatives.Let me let you into another secret, less than 25% of the fee will be reinvested and, after the dust has settled, the club will still owe Madejski #20 million and still have a black hole beyond this. This is was has happened after every other piece of silver has been flogged off.Madejski has no interest in the club other than for it not to cost him money, as such it is hard to see progress for the forseeable future whilst we compete against pretty much every other club that is prepared to invest. Can't believe no one foresaw this scenario a couple of years ago.

[RoyalBlue]

Still think that currently operating costs and expenditure >>> current income....given the reduced season tickets, reduced revenue from marketing/sponsorship..

20,000 ST @ Premier prices >>>>> 12,000 ST @ this years reduced rate
Empty boxes this season, reduced matchday hospitality numbers, fewer sponsors...etc...the list goes on....

And selling our best player is the way to deal with that? Crowds go down, people don't renew. Absolute shambles of a descending spiral.

How would you suggest dealing with it?


The question that bothers me is how, despite off-loading our big earners, are we still failing to break even? Either our squad, to a man, is overpaid, or we are losing money somewhere else.

Anyone know how many employees not directly connected with the playing side have been offloaded in the past couple of years?

Even in the playing setup itself, is there really a driving need for posts like an 'Assistant Kit Man'?

I have just spoken to a close friend who has close links to the club who has been right on things like this before. They have said this is true and gylfi has been given permission by Reading to talk to them and the iceland camp have given permission to link up with them on tuesday or wednesday depending on when the deal goes through.

The fee is around 4 million. The player has not been looking for a move away from the club and has turned down chances to leave all through the summer so this was a club decision not a player decision.

The two parties are yet to discuss wages etc, but assuming this is all done properly it should go through on tuesday.

In terms of replacements the names he suggested the club are looking at are not that exciting and will probably be a loan as they did not forsee him leaving.

If true, more glaring inconsistencies from the business management side. 'Club decision not a player decision' but only a loan replacement as the people who made that decision didn't forsee themselves making it!!!

If this does all come to fruition, then I hope the likes of Dellor and Fordham finally grow some balls and really challenge (Paxman style) the likes of Madejski on these inconsistencies.

[Ups and Downs]

Well, I'm inclined to believe Icelandstokie - there's no reason for him to make this up and he normally puts any rumours (which actually often are then true) in UR&G.

Still, I'm sure Strap's Boy will be the first at the club to be told any developments!

And there's me trying to be helpful to the board!

With respect, I pay a lot more attention to someone who keeps his ears and eys open within the club than a Daily Mirror reporter regurgitating second hand stories from an Icelandic newspaper. The training ground is a surprisingly small tight-nit community, and there aren't too many confidential items of news that stay secret for very long. (Won't tax your attention span with dozens of examples he has previously provided that have all been correct, but not put here to preserve his confidentiality - but this one is big). But hey, if you prefer your "truth" from the Daily Mirror, that is your right.

So are you saying he's not going anywhere?

[Schards#2]

Still think that currently operating costs and expenditure >>> current income....given the reduced season tickets, reduced revenue from marketing/sponsorship..

20,000 ST @ Premier prices >>>>> 12,000 ST @ this years reduced rate
Empty boxes this season, reduced matchday hospitality numbers, fewer sponsors...etc...the list goes on....

And selling our best player is the way to deal with that? Crowds go down, people don't renew. Absolute shambles of a descending spiral.

How would you suggest dealing with it?


The question that bothers me is how, despite off-loading our big earners, are we still failing to break even? Either our squad, to a man, is overpaid, or we are losing money somewhere else.

......or we are being fed a load of utter horse shit by the club