Gylfi is leaving Reading

[philM]

Gylfi wont be in the squad tonight.

From the Hoffenheim site (translated by Google)..
"Gylfi Sigurdsson - Whether with the latest acquisition of the Hoffenheim will be in the squad is still open"

[Magnus]

Only just seen this thread - not going to attempt to read all 68 pages can someone give me a summary?

[under the tin]

THis club wouldn't be here if it wasn't for him. We have seen a stability over the past 2 decades that very few other clubs can match.

Just becuase he no longer invests his OWN money does not mean he is bad for this club.
I wouldn't argue with any of that, mate.I

Ido't want my club to be sold out to rich owners who will play with it like a toy/hobby.

Similarly, I don't like the thought of an owner letting all the strides made in those last two decades go, and meekly watch the club slide backwards into obscurity.

[Still Hate Futcher!]

Only just seen this thread - not going to attempt to read all 68 pages can someone give me a summary?

Looks like we're selling Gylfi.

We have sold Gylfi.

Madejski is a dick.

Oh no he isn't.

Oh yes he is.

Repeat to fade..........

[Huntley & Palmer]

Only just seen this thread - not going to attempt to read all 68 pages can someone give me a summary?

strap made a total tit of himself again. Bout it really

[TFF]

THis club wouldn't be here if it wasn't for him. We have seen a stability over the past 2 decades that very few other clubs can match.

Just becuase he no longer invests his OWN money does not mean he is bad for this club.
I wouldn't argue with any of that, mate.I

Ido't want my club to be sold out to rich owners who will play with it like a toy/hobby.

Similarly, I don't like the thought of an owner letting all the strides made in those last two decades go, and meekly watch the club slide backwards into obscurity.

Then you should be firmly behind the current owner and his management team who are doing everything in their power, including the unfortunate sale of one of our most promising players, to ensure that doesn't happen.

I think you're confusing "last two decades" with one runaway success and two years in the top flight. This club (ground, league position, attendance, income, reputation, just about any measure you can think of) is vastly advanced of where it was twenty years ago.

[RoyalBlue]

I'm happy to support a club regardless of what is happening on the pitch but not regardless of what is going on in the boadroom. I support Reading FC and, despite what some still claim, Madejski is not Reading FC.

THis club wouldn't be here if it wasn't for him. We have seen a stability over the past 2 decades that very few other clubs can match.

Just becuase he no longer invests his OWN money does not mean he is bad for this club. I don't want my club to be sold out to rich owners who will play with it like a toy/hobby.

Trouble is, even Madejski has admitted that the club needs really serious money invested in order to be successful. He's not investing his money and,whilst he hangs around, no one else is likely to come along and invest either ( I believe Madejski has made it pretty clear in the past that he doesn't fancy sharing his club with another investor). That means he is bad for the club if the desire is for the club to be successful rather than just survive/exist.

[Wycombe Royal]

I'm happy to support a club regardless of what is happening on the pitch but not regardless of what is going on in the boadroom. I support Reading FC and, despite what some still claim, Madejski is not Reading FC.

THis club wouldn't be here if it wasn't for him. We have seen a stability over the past 2 decades that very few other clubs can match.

Just becuase he no longer invests his OWN money does not mean he is bad for this club. I don't want my club to be sold out to rich owners who will play with it like a toy/hobby.

Trouble is, even Madejski has admitted that the club needs really serious money invested in order to be successful. He's not investing his money and,whilst he hangs around, no one else is likely to come along and invest either ( I believe Madejski has made it pretty clear in the past that he doesn't fancy sharing his club with another investor). That means he is bad for the club if the desire is for the club to be successful rather than just survive/exist.

So what you are saying is he should sell it on the cheap to anyone who has loads of money?

Luckily for us Madejski cares more about the club than that.

[under the tin]

THis club wouldn't be here if it wasn't for him. We have seen a stability over the past 2 decades that very few other clubs can match.

Just becuase he no longer invests his OWN money does not mean he is bad for this club.
I wouldn't argue with any of that, mate.I

Ido't want my club to be sold out to rich owners who will play with it like a toy/hobby.

Similarly, I don't like the thought of an owner letting all the strides made in those last two decades go, and meekly watch the club slide backwards into obscurity.

Then you should be firmly behind the current owner and his management team who are doing everything in their power, including the unfortunate sale of one of our most promising players, to ensure that doesn't happen.
Gylfi going wasn't unfortunate. It was inevitable. The kid deserves his chance to play at the top. Good luck to him.
I think you're confusing "last two decades" with one runaway success and two years in the top flight.
No confusion here. I go back to the days when coach number 2 was called "the promotion coach"
This club (ground, league position, attendance, income, reputation, just about any measure you can think of) is vastly advanced of where it was twenty years ago.

Someone like me thinks that the reason we are in a higher league than say, Aldershot, is because we have better footballers.
The sale of Gylfi, is in my view, a sideshow because we all knew he was too good to stay with us.
The proceeds of his sale have been used to plug a hole in the finances, and that's fair enough, but I fear the departure of more of our flair players, and their replacement with cheaper footballers will ultimately result in a levelling out downwards.
I've been to Rochdale away, and I don't really fancy going back there.
Perhaps you can see my difficulty in supporting the management if that's where we could end up.

[Uke]

a levelling out downwards.

how can you level out downwards?

[Rev Algenon Stickleback H]

Someone like me thinks that the reason we are in a higher league than say, Aldershot, is because we have better footballers.
The sale of Gylfi, is in my view, a sideshow because we all knew he was too good to stay with us.
The proceeds of his sale have been used to plug a hole in the finances, and that's fair enough, but I fear the departure of more of our flair players, and their replacement with cheaper footballers will ultimately result in a levelling out downwards.
I've been to Rochdale away, and I don't really fancy going back there.
Perhaps you can see my difficulty in supporting the management if that's where we could end up.

We aren't the club were were in the 70s/80s/early 90s. During our spell in the 2nd tier in the mid 90s we all thought 10,000 was a really big crowd. There's nothing at all to suggest we are going to go back to that level of support.

Even if our crowds dip to 15000 this season, that would still leave us as an averagely supported side for this division. The sky is not falling in. Even if crowds fall, they are not going to drop to Aldershot levels with a team to match.

And anyone who thinks we are the only club balancing the books is an idiot. Take a look at this guy who took over at Preston, for example.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulfletcher ... tml#250569

Of course, it's still pretty galling to read about Portsmouth etc deciding that it's OK to pay £1 million above their budget, without a care in the world about financial implications.

[FiNeRaIn]

I don't want my club to be sold out to rich owners who will play with it like a toy/hobby.

Agreed, but equally I don't want it to be in the hands of someone who has lost the drive and ambition to manage it. He's been trying to sell for years, yet I think there is a good chance he is pricing potential investors out of taking over. I keep seeing clubs like Leicester, Cardiff,etc get these foreign investors, how on earth are clubs like them in debt - no recent prem football..more of an attractive proposition to a club 45 miles from london, plans to increase the ground accepted if we need it added to no debt whatsoever? It doesn't add up.

He's done a lot for the club, thats never been called into question. But IMO we've been managed poorly since promotion to the porem and we've really blown our chance at being a WBA/Birmingham type club when we had a massive chance to be. Season after seasons fans on here and BBCRB could see where the problems were and the club did nothing. Instead we are just another mid-table championship team left wondering why we didn't try and capitalise on the prem years like WBA, Birmingham,etc

[John Madejski's Wallet]

And anyone who thinks we are the only club balancing the books is an idiot. Take a look at this guy who took over at Preston, for example.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulfletcher ... tml#250569

Same with Sheff Utd. Really trying to balance the books this season

[Hoop Blah]

And anyone who thinks we are the only club balancing the books is an idiot. Take a look at this guy who took over at Preston, for example.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulfletcher ... tml#250569

Same with Sheff Utd. Really trying to balance the books this season

There are some trying, but they're in a small minority and you only have to look at their current state to see that it's a very new thing!

Utd have also made a few signings that won't all be cheap either.

[under the tin]

Someone like me thinks that the reason we are in a higher league than say, Aldershot, is because we have better footballers.
The sale of Gylfi, is in my view, a sideshow because we all knew he was too good to stay with us.
The proceeds of his sale have been used to plug a hole in the finances, and that's fair enough, but I fear the departure of more of our flair players, and their replacement with cheaper footballers will ultimately result in a levelling out downwards.
I've been to Rochdale away, and I don't really fancy going back there.
Perhaps you can see my difficulty in supporting the management if that's where we could end up.

We aren't the club were were in the 70s/80s/early 90s. During our spell in the 2nd tier in the mid 90s we all thought 10,000 was a really big crowd. There's nothing at all to suggest we are going to go back to that level of support.

Even if our crowds dip to 15000 this season, that would still leave us as an averagely supported side for this division.
If our crowds dip, then the "income" column on the accounts will be affected. The austerity measures in the "outgoings" budget will doubtless be adjusted to take account of this. To use Jm speak, more cloth cutting, more "box office" high earners offloaded. Can't you see the danger of a spiral emerging?

The sky is not falling in. Even if crowds fall, they are not going to drop to Aldershot levels with a team to match.
I wish I shared your undoubted optimism.
It doesn't make any difference how pretty our stadium is.
If the product served up on that patch of grass in the middle is of poor quality, then that will be reflected in the numbers attending.
It's not only spending too much that puts organisations out of business, it's also a function of not earning enough.
And anyone who thinks we are the only club balancing the books is an idiot. Take a look at this guy who took over at Preston, for example.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulfletcher ... tml#250569

Of course, it's still pretty galling to read about Portsmouth etc deciding that it's OK to pay £1 million above their budget, without a care in the world about financial implications.

[Wycombe Royal]

Agreed, but equally I don't want it to be in the hands of someone who has lost the drive and ambition to manage it.

Just because he isn't running it the way you want him too does not mean he has lost his drive and ambition where RFC is concerned.

[FiNeRaIn]

Agreed, but equally I don't want it to be in the hands of someone who has lost the drive and ambition to manage it.

Just because he isn't running it the way you want him too does not mean he has lost his drive and ambition where RFC is concerned.

I think its pretty clear to most people he has. He's said for quite some time that he wants to sell publicly.

[Wycombe Royal]

Agreed, but equally I don't want it to be in the hands of someone who has lost the drive and ambition to manage it.

Just because he isn't running it the way you want him too does not mean he has lost his drive and ambition where RFC is concerned.

I think its pretty clear to most people he has. He's said for quite some time that he wants to sell publicly.

He wants to sell because he acknowledges that he doesn't have the resources to take the club to the next level and keep it there. That is not the same as losing his drive and ambition.

[IcelandicStokie]

Gylfi came on for the last 17.4 minutes or so in the 2-0 win against Schalke tonight after attending his first training yesterday.

[Row Z Royal]

Gylfi came on for the last 20 minutes or so in the 2-0 win against Schalke tonight after attending his first training yesterday.

17mins. Plastic.