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Re: Coppell

by SouthDownsRoyal » 04 Jan 2010 20:44

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Re: Coppell

by Rex » 04 Jan 2010 20:58

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Re: Coppell

by ROKERITE » 04 Jan 2010 21:15

As someone whose only interest in Reading is how many points they pick up in the remainder of this season, I rather like the idea of Coppell returning and operating with McDermott as his close assistant; it may just give the impetus to the team to start racking up some wins. I wouldn't be so happy if I was actually a Reading supporter. Coppell gave your club its finest years, but he is also largely responsible for the mess you're in now; far more so than that poor patsy Rodgers.

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Re: Coppell

by Ian Royal » 04 Jan 2010 21:16

ROKERITE As someone whose only interest in Reading is how many points they pick up in the remainder of this season, I rather like the idea of Coppell returning and operating with McDermott as his close assistant; it may just give the impetus to the team to start racking up some wins. I wouldn't be so happy if I was actually a Reading supporter. Coppell gave your club its finest years, but he is also largely responsible for the mess you're in now; far more so than that poor patsy Rodgers.


They're responsible for rather different things.

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Re: Coppell

by Woodcote Royal » 04 Jan 2010 23:54

Maguire Moments that remind you Reading fans are bellends - singing for Coppell to return as manager. Have a fkcing look at yourselves.


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And you can add booing when the score is level at half time


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Re: Coppell

by Woodcote Royal » 05 Jan 2010 00:04

Ian Royal The timing was difficult. It either had to happen quickly or not at all. Madejski had to make the decision based on how he thought Rodgers would do in the rest of the season and how he'd handle the transfer window.

Will it prove the right decision? Probably impossible to ever be sure, but Rodgers certainly did badly enough and made enough mistakes that he forced Madejski into having to make a decision when he did. It's not like Madejski is known for sacking underperforming managers.


For once we agree.

As good a summary as I've read of what I believe brought about Brendan's departure but none of us will ever know for sure.

However, my gut instinct is that, sadly, it was the right decision.

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Re: Coppell

by juanpablo » 05 Jan 2010 00:19

If Steve comes back we are pretty much guaranteed to avoid relegation imo


anybody else im not so sure (although Im hopefull for Macsta)

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Re: Coppell

by Millsy » 05 Jan 2010 00:56

Coppell returning is a no-brainer.

He said he wanted "a few months off" to see his son do various things.

He's had that. He's refreshed.

Anyone who is against him returning is in my opinion a bit of an embarrassment. Sorry but sometimes things are just that simple.

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Re: Coppell

by Royalee » 05 Jan 2010 01:01

2 world wars, 1 world cup Coppell returning is a no-brainer.

He said he wanted "a few months off" to see his son do various things.

He's had that. He's refreshed.

Anyone who is against him returning is in my opinion a bit of an embarrassment. Sorry but sometimes things are just that simple.


Did you not bother watching his final two years in charge?


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Re: Coppell

by Royalee » 05 Jan 2010 01:07

juanpablo If Steve comes back we are pretty much guaranteed to avoid relegation imo


How do you make that out? If anything, his previous experiences indicate that he'd be the worst possible candidate to take over a struggling side! The guy has three relegations on his CV - 3 more than Rodgers and McDermott. Coppell's at his best when there's positive momentum and conditions are there to improve a side and build on success - completely the opposite to what we have.

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Re: Coppell

by brendywendy » 05 Jan 2010 10:27

The guy has three relegations on his CV - 3 more than Rodgers and McDermott


i agree with the rest of your post, but this^^^^^^ is hugely lolworthy

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Re: Coppell

by Royalwaster » 05 Jan 2010 10:34

Royalee
juanpablo If Steve comes back we are pretty much guaranteed to avoid relegation imo


How do you make that out? If anything, his previous experiences indicate that he'd be the worst possible candidate to take over a struggling side! The guy has three relegations on his CV - 3 more than Rodgers and McDermott. Coppell's at his best when there's positive momentum and conditions are there to improve a side and build on success - completely the opposite to what we have.


You do talk a lot of drivel Royalee.

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Re: Coppell

by Smoking Kills Dancing Doe » 05 Jan 2010 10:54

But he's not though.

Coppell was in a similar situation as to now when he was at Reading on 3 occasions.

Where we couldn't win, we were playing terrible and there seemed no hope of things being turned round.

Each time Coppell didn't have a clue what to do. We threw away 2 promotions and slept walked into an avoidable relagation.

Coppell's successes at Reading in no way point to him being able to get us out of trouble, his failings clearly point to him not being able to do so.


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Re: Coppell

by ankeny » 05 Jan 2010 11:28

Ian Royal Coppell isn't right for us now. Rodgers did too much damage to our season, relegation fight isn't what I'd want Coppell for.

Now if we stay up, or to be honest if we go down (although we'd be a litle low for him then) I'd be happy to see him back with a full summer to prepare. He'd certainly help develop the younger players well.

Who else is out there?There are at least three big other jobs up for grabs who managers would rather go to and we would be left with the dross.Apart from giving us,and the players a big lift he is the only one and we should test him out before is too late,get him now

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Re: Coppell

by Royalee » 05 Jan 2010 11:49

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juanpablo If Steve comes back we are pretty much guaranteed to avoid relegation imo


How do you make that out? If anything, his previous experiences indicate that he'd be the worst possible candidate to take over a struggling side! The guy has three relegations on his CV - 3 more than Rodgers and McDermott. Coppell's at his best when there's positive momentum and conditions are there to improve a side and build on success - completely the opposite to what we have.


You do talk a lot of drivel Royalee.


Why? Please tell me where I've gone wrong there.

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Re: Coppell

by Hoop Blah » 05 Jan 2010 11:51

Ideal, the situations are very similar in terms of the teams inability to win games.

The only difference to me is that under Coppell the performances didn't warrent the wins and his teams just couldn't create goal scoring opportunities. Under Rodgers the side was creating plenty of chances and putting in general perforances that deserved 3 points if, and that's a massive and very important if, we learnt to take chances.

Which players who performed well under Coppell didn't perform under Rodgers then? I'll give you Long, but you can't have Gunnarsson or Ingimarsson because they're performances are largely being affected by their age and neither performed well last season.

I don't see how you can say Coppell would get the team organised and playing an efficient style when he couldn't do that before when things were going wrong. You also blame Rodgers for inconsistent team selection and point to Coppell's undieing loyalty to players not performing as being a mistake...can you see how it's not quite so easy to fix these things despite what you think.

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Re: Coppell

by Royalee » 05 Jan 2010 11:54

brendywendy
The guy has three relegations on his CV - 3 more than Rodgers and McDermott


i agree with the rest of your post, but this^^^^^^ is hugely lolworthy


I'm not saying for definite either would keep us up, but what I am saying is that Coppell has no better record for evading relegation than either of those two. People can talk about Brighton where they improved slightly, but at the end of the day they still went down.

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Re: Coppell

by brendywendy » 05 Jan 2010 11:57

coppell has been a manager for 20 years and has been relegated 3 times
mcdermott and rodgers have been in management a total of under a year, but have never been relegated
therefore i would suggest both the time period, and their relegation records are totally incomparable- rather than suggesting somehow that the latter are the better managers

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Re: Coppell

by Royalee » 05 Jan 2010 11:59

brendywendy coppell has been a manager for 20 years and has been relegated 3 times
mcdermott and rodgers have been in management a total of under a year, but have never been relegated
therefore i would suggest both the time period, and their relegation records are totally incomparable- rather than suggesting somehow that the latter are the better managers


That's the point - you can't quantify either way whether or not one would be better than the other at keeping us up, so to suggest it would be a 'no brainer' and 'Coppell would definitely keep us up' as opposed to those two is completely unfounded.

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Re: Coppell

by brendywendy » 05 Jan 2010 12:02

i didnt suggest that.

but your spin is flawed.

i would suggest that in however many years copps has managed he has "avoided relegation" in all but 3
which means hes ace

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