BFTG - Huddersfield

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by Nameless » 20 Jan 2016 11:45

It was actually closed before they had put tickets on sale.
Not sure why it is if interest to a Troll, but nice that Kes continues to be part of our family after all these years.

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by CountryRoyal » 20 Jan 2016 11:46

Same thing as Chelsea's title defence. Thought about it and then quickly forgot it.

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by Snowball136 » 20 Jan 2016 11:48

The first goal wasn't "Cooper's fault."

It was McDermott's fault for allowing a 20-year old kid to be exposed (poor defensive drill)

it was Ferdinand's fault for not being alongside Cooper, the team's fault for not screaming
at him to be further upfield where a mistake would be less costly

It was Gunter's fault for being nowhere

It was (partly) Taylor's fault for not covering Gunter and Ferdinand's absence

It was the midfield's fault for going missing and giving the ball away

WTF, in a professional game is a raw 20-year old doing, almost the only player in his half
up against Wells, a clever, quick sought-after striker?

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by LWJ » 20 Jan 2016 11:50

Snowball136 The first goal wasn't "Cooper's fault."

It was McDermott's fault for allowing a 20-year old kid to be exposed (poor defensive drill)

it was Ferdinand's fault for not being alongside Cooper, the team's fault for not screaming
at him to be further upfield where a mistake would be less costly

It was Gunter's fault for being nowhere

It was (partly) Taylor's fault for not covering Gunter and Ferdinand's absence

It was the midfield's fault for going missing and giving the ball away

WTF, in a professional game is a raw 20-year old doing, almost the only player in his half
up against Wells, a clever, quick sought-after striker?

He missed a header, a free header. There's no excuse for that.

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by No Fixed Abode » 20 Jan 2016 11:50

Nameless It was actually closed before they had put tickets on sale.
Not sure why it is if interest to a Troll, but nice that Kes continues to be part of our family after all these years.


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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by Maneki Neko » 20 Jan 2016 11:51

Nameless It was actually closed before they had put tickets on sale.
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Because they knew no one would come

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by Maneki Neko » 20 Jan 2016 11:52

FACT

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by CountryRoyal » 20 Jan 2016 11:53

Snowball136 The first goal wasn't "Cooper's fault."

It was McDermott's fault for allowing a 20-year old kid to be exposed (poor defensive drill)

it was Ferdinand's fault for not being alongside Cooper, the team's fault for not screaming
at him to be further upfield where a mistake would be less costly

It was Gunter's fault for being nowhere

It was (partly) Taylor's fault for not covering Gunter and Ferdinand's absence

It was the midfield's fault for going missing and giving the ball away

WTF, in a professional game is a raw 20-year old doing, almost the only player in his half
up against Wells, a clever, quick sought-after striker?


All well and good and I agree with you that the blame needs to be shared, but ultimately it was his individual error therefore he is at least at some fault.

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by Snowball136 » 20 Jan 2016 11:57

Yes, we weren't great in the first 20-odd minutes of the game but what struck me
was the lack of shape. Ferdinand was wandering up the right, they was no CB pairing
and part from kick-offs I don't think I saw the back four in a straight line.

The Huddersfield midfield worked FAR harder than we did and looked like they could
cut through us at will. The team-spirit and morale looked really low as if very few of
RFC's players wanted to be out there.

The one shining light work-wise (before his goals) was Vydra, who once again worked his socks off

Our midfield is just WRONG and I think the problem starts with Williams. He just doesn't FIT,
he doesn't keep us in some regular sort of shape, and teams have countless opportunities
to get at our back four. A back four which comprises a RB who rarely tackles, a LB who is OK, but
a loanee, an old CB who has class but can barely move, and a 20-year old kid.

A back four like that needs an out and out defensive midfielder to protect it. It's no accident that
we have looked worse since Tish got injured, but do we really not have anyone with the discipline
to play there and do the most crucial job?

I would play Hernandez over Williams every time, but I also think we need a midfield three


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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by Nameless » 20 Jan 2016 11:57

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Nameless It was actually closed before they had put tickets on sale.
Not sure why it is if interest to a Troll, but nice that Kes continues to be part of our family after all these years.


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It is, but at least you've accepted it and can probably move on...

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by genome » 20 Jan 2016 11:58

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Nameless It was actually closed before they had put tickets on sale.
Not sure why it is if interest to a Troll, but nice that Kes continues to be part of our family after all these years.


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Why do you care?

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by Snowball136 » 20 Jan 2016 11:59

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All well and good and I agree with you that the blame needs to be shared, but ultimately it was his individual error therefore he is at least at some fault.


My point is, when someone is learning, you make sure he's covered at all times.

At MK Dons he had more ball than Williams. He's not Bobby Moore

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by West Stand Man » 20 Jan 2016 11:59

Jano
LWJ Huddesfield should use you as part of their appeal then, as obviously you know a lot about football :roll:


For gods sake, all I am saying is I've seen those given as a foul/yellow card rather than a foul/red card, and we were lucky that the referee gave it as a red card.



No, that isn't what you are saying. It may be what you meant but that is not the same thing as saying it.


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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by Mr Optimist » 20 Jan 2016 11:59

genome You've been on the Team board at lot lately, what happened to your mantra of not getting worked up about teams that don't affect you?


Attack being the best form of defence I think. Gives him a feeling of superiority, a bit like the thick older kid who is held back a year at school and likes to lord it over the smaller kids in the class by pushing them around in the playground.

In reality he is jealous of our connection and sense of pride to our local hometown team when he has opted for the false glamour of "supporting" a club 40 miles away that he has no real ties to, acting like an attention seeking child on here to boost his self esteem. Am I close?
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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by WoodleyRoyal » 20 Jan 2016 12:01

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by CountryRoyal » 20 Jan 2016 12:02

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All well and good and I agree with you that the blame needs to be shared, but ultimately it was his individual error therefore he is at least at some fault.


My point is, when someone is learning, you make sure he's covered at all times.

At MK Dons he had more ball than Williams. He's not Bobby Moore


And what good is it teaching a young player his mistakes don't matter? I think that's what someone did with Hector.

For me the biggest culprit in that error was oxf*rd Gunter. Not only was he nowhere near the incident (which should be is oxf*rd home) he was just walking back.

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by West Stand Man » 20 Jan 2016 12:03

sandman
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Pepe the Horseman How did Piazon and Hal play?


Both pretty crap to be honest. A little harsh on Robson-Kanu perhaps, but only because he had to play on the wrong side once McCleary went off injured and perhaps Piazon who was positively involved in a few key moments of course.

I'd have been tempted to hook Piazon off after 25 minutes as he was showing all his negative traits without any of the good stuff to balance them out. He grew into the game a little, but so a player of his type should when the extra space comes thanks to the opposition being down to 10.

Great to see Vydra take his chances well. He had one or two before his goal that he might have done better with, but he was clinical after putting the first one away (which he made look easy to be fair).

The most positive thing that came out of last night, IMO, was the obvious team spirit among those on the pitch. You could see how much it meant to Vydra to score and it was noticeable how many of his teammates made special effort to congratulate him. They, unlike some fans and certain muppets in the media, obviously recognise his effort, quality and how well he's been playing (without the goals).

I've seen a few comments on how well Cooper played. He's decent enough but yet again we've looked shakey with him at the back and he's made errors that have led to goals and chances going against us. He's a decent prospect, but he's far from the finished article and the sooner McShane gets back in the side the better.

Feel a bit sorry for Sa!


The point Mr High Horse is that Vydra's effort is admirable but he was not brought here for effort alone, he was brought here as a proven Championship goal scorer to get us the goals that would get us promoted. No one has ever said he's lacking in effort, not even Dellor.

Try actually reading and listening.


Interesting then that Clarke made the point that one of the prime reasons for bringing him is what he adds to the team 'even when he isn't scoring goals'.

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by West Stand Man » 20 Jan 2016 12:06

Maneki Neko
Nameless It was actually closed before they had put tickets on sale.
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Because they didn't expect there to be enough people coming to justify opening it, but they could have changed that if there were.

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by West Stand Man » 20 Jan 2016 12:08

Mr Optimist
genome You've been on the Team board at lot lately, what happened to your mantra of not getting worked up about teams that don't affect you?


Attack being the best form of defence I think. Gives him a feeling of superiority, a bit like the thick older kid who is held back a year at school and likes to lord it over the smaller kids in the class by pushing them around in the playground.

In reality he is jealous of our connection and sense of pride to our local hometown team when he has opted for the false glamour of "supporting" a club 40 miles away that he has no real ties to, acting like a window licking autistic child on here to boost his self esteem. Am I close?



....and there you completely lost the moral high ground

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by Maneki Neko » 20 Jan 2016 12:13

WoodleyRoyal ^power post

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But is not a power post

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